Batman 89 will go down as the bigger classic than TDK

[spliz]

I've said my age multiple times in this thread and I coincided to this already noting that it was impactful with the significant help of Miller's novel

I know...u said u just turned 20..and it shows...and while the comic had influence on Tim Burton and comic heads....Tim Burton's FILM was a landmark in superhero films....it's literally undeniable....Anyone who was around will tell u this....the shyt can't be debated....from a music..theme...merch...influential..and style standpoint...to deny that Batman '89 was landmark is delusional and Chris Nolan would tell u this himself....

 

[Master Teacher]

You're an idiot. I'm done arguing with someone that is clearly trying to troll and make TDK look like it didn't make sense. You are a simpleton in every sense of the word.

I'm an idiot, yet you can tell me what this movie is about without explaining what happens in every individual scene, that has no barring on the ending all

Why are you so mad

You calling me names because I'm calling out the sloppy mess that is this film

you can't even explain the plot in a single SENTENCE

I even gave you examples with star wars

All I'm asking is questions

I say there's no plot, then you give me a summary of what happened in some scenes, that are irrelevant to the conclusion of the film

 

[Master Teacher]

Everything is explained in the movie. fukk outta here bruh.

So what happened to all the people being terrorized after joker threw rachel from the movie, he had a room full of armed goons

Also just because something is explained doesn't mean it's a plot

Telling what happened scene to scene isn't a plot

there is no plot in this movie, which isn't the reason why it's a bad movie, but is one of the reasons why the film suffers because its all over the place

 

[StraxStrax]

it isn't about anything

That's not true at all. It's about how far Batman is willing to go just to get what he feels is justice. He tortures Maroni for info and tries to do the same with The Joker, he breaks international laws by kidnapping Lau, hacks the phones of everbody in the city (much to Fox's disgust) and takes the blame for the people that Two-Face murders so it won't affect the RICO trial. He's even close to killing The Joker by ramming him with the bike but bails in the end and spins out of control. So when The Joker falls down from that building, Batman saves him because he now knows where his limit is. He's willing to do anything but kill.

 

[Chris Cool]

He had a room full of armed goons who got they asses whooped. You just talked about irrelevant shyt on the last page, yet you bringing it up.

The plot is to end the mob and stop crime in Gotham.

 

[StraxStrax]

So what happened to all the people being terrorized after joker threw rachel from the movie, he had a room full of armed goons

He had like 3 goons that Batman already beat up badly. The Joker bailed, that much is clear, throwing Rachel from the building was him buying time. I'm mean they could've shown 5 secs of them running away or whatever but I thought it was crystal clear.

 

[Master Teacher]

That's not true at all. It's about how far Batman is willing to go just to get what he feels is justice. He tortures Maroni for info and tries to do the same with The Joker, he breaks international laws by kidnapping Lau, hacks the phones of everbody in the city (much to Fox's disgust) and takes the blame for the people that Two-Face murders so it won't affect the RICO trial. He's even close to killing The Joker by ramming him with the bike but bails in the end and spins out of control. So when The Joker falls down from that building, Batman saves him because he now knows where his limit is. He's willing to do anything but kill.

Just stop, Batman breaks the law everyday by putting on the mask, batman did not torture maroni lmao, he never came close to killng the joker, and the bike seen is just dumb, because we just saw him expertly handle the bat pod even going vertically up a wall to turn around, also charging straight at the joker made no sense, but whatever

that's not a plot, that's your reasoning the series of events

Batman always believed the people of gotham wouldn't detonate the bomb, he knew and gordan knew joker would blow the bomb himself
he never had any intentions of killing the joker in that entire confrontation

and the scenaro doesn't even appear into the end of the film, there is absolutely nothing building up to this confrontation, it's just another random event

 

[Master Teacher]

He had like 3 goons that Batman already beat up badly. The Joker bailed, that much is clear, throwing Rachel from the building was him buying time. I'm mean they could've shown 5 secs of them running away or whatever but I thought it was crystal clear.

He had more than 3 goons, for one, the whole scene was dumb as fukk, and the camera work was so bad you couldn't see what was going on

especially batman appearing out of nowhere in a fully lit room surrounded by guys who are armed with guns pointed at crowds of people

but nevermind

once again, this still doesn't say what the movie is about

it's about joker's quest to corrupt dent, I mean he front wanting to kill dent, to wanting to corrupt him lmao

nothing in this movie makes any damn sense, the shyt has zero replay value and barely any action at all

 

[StraxStrax]

Ok, if you don't agree thats fine with me but I think you are, on purpose, ballooning your dislike of the movie just to piss people off.

 

[Chris Cool]

this nikka man. You don't like the movie? Just say that then. Quit reaching for shyt to discredit it though. You making yourself look stupid tbh.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

He had like 3 goons that Batman already beat up badly. The Joker bailed, that much is clear, throwing Rachel from the building was him buying time. I'm mean they could've shown 5 secs of them running away or whatever but I thought it was crystal clear.

Well batman could've waited for the Joker to exit the building to follow or catch him. Right?

 

[StraxStrax]

Well batman could've waited for the Joker to exit the building to follow or catch him. Right?

I doubt The Joker would've walked out the front door knowing Batman was there.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I doubt The Joker would've walked out the front door knowing Batman was there.

I'm sure batman knew that as well. Being master detective and all.

 

[MartyMcFly]

yet you couldn't even answer the question

The movie doesn't even tell you what batman is trying to catch the mafia doing or what criminal enterprise he's trying to bring down

its oh them mob, we have to arrest him, nevermind for what, because we never see the mob do anything other than talk about batman being a thorn in their side, but we are never shown what exactly it is batman is doing to cause them problems lol

The beginning of the movie, begins with some kinda of deal, we don't even know and it's never explained why crane is meeting these people, and for what
or why the mob would be hurt by batman stopping this deal

it's just another random event in this completely random movie

The Batman 89 introduces batman in the first scene in his normal routine, which in fact see a crime and understand why batman would take action.
then quickly begins into the plot of the movie when he ease drops on the commission at the party at wayne manor, and learns about the jack napiers plan to dispose of the evidence at Axis Chemicals after unwittingly being setup by his boss, which begins his conflict with the joker which the movie centers around the very same chemicals that created the joker he uses to poison the population

I did answer the question. Whether you like the fact that the mafia is basically an all encompassing force in Gotham or not is on you but that's what they are. He started his quest in batman begins to take down the mob and then continued it. The mob couldn't get the job done and they hired the joker. Simple and to the point breh

 

[MartyMcFly]

Yea but breh, no one ever really cared who played Batman. We just cared about the Batmobile and his gadgets. Batman fans are more concerned with who gets cast as the iconic villans and Alfred. Bruce Wayne is the easiest role to play. Ask Ben Affleck. Just look like a rich billionaire and not look awkward with the Bat suit and mask on and you're good. And Bale played it perfect too imo. The voice was obviously to mask his voice and make him seem darker which he did.

You serious tho? You telling me you never heard about the hate letters WB got when they cast Michael Keaton? Or the fact that the freaking Wall St. Journal picked up on it and wrote that it was a bad idea and that the movie would bomb because of it? Trust me breh, there was quite the backlash. Just read any article on the movie or any keaton interview. He's even talked about it recently on his oscar campaign