At this point, its getting hard to deny LeBron is the best to ever pickup a Basketball

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Rhakim said:
What is there to talk about? No one says those teams were great just because they played in the expansion era. I mean look at them - Hakeem and Duncan won with some of the thinnest squads we've ever seen win a title. Lakers in 2000 had Shaq as the only star and still dominated, their biggest threat was Portland who didn't even have a 20ppg scorer. IT is a nice player leading Detroit, but he was hardly even a superstar.

The question was why MJ dominated his era. And it seems obvious - he was literally the only mature superstar between 1991 and 1998 who played with a loaded team. You could say Shaq's team was loaded in 1995, but Shaq was young and they got mad injuries the very next year. Besides that, every team in the NBA was pretty much led by either 2nd-tier stars, superstars with no elite help, or had serious problems on one side of the court.







lol - you're going to ignore that that team only lasted ONE YEAR of MJ's return, and they beat MJ that year?

The next year, Anderson got hurt (along with Grant, Shaw, and Koncak all getting hurt too, just decimating the team), and then Shaq left that offseason.





Mashburn's tenure on the Heat only overlapped with MJ's career for 1.5 seasons, and he was dealing with injuries both seasons. Only averaged 10ppg in the 97 playoffs and 6ppg in the 98 playoffs, and you're trying to list him like he was a star.






LOL, did you just list Mourning and Johnson who didn't play for Charlotte in 96 or 97? Who cares about '94 when Jordan wasn't even in the league? You really tried to count Zo for TWO teams simultaneously lol. And Charlotte only won 41 games in 96.

Charlotte in 1997 was led by Glen Rice, Anthony Mason, Vlade Divac, and Muggsy Bogues. Bragging that THAT team won 54 games destroys your point.




So to recap, your great evidence that the league was tough for MJ's second threepeat was:

1) An Orlando squad that lost half its lineup in '96 and then Shaq left
2) A Miami squad whose #3 option was hurt and scoring single digits
3) A Charlotte squad whose stars you lied about, and who actually starred a future Laker 3rd option and a 5'3" midget.


You've really convinced me that Jordan dominated an amazing era. :laff:
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So MJ played on a loaded team and won 6-6 chips with no game 7s but Lebron played on hand chosen super teams in a era where dudes don’t even want to compete and still lost 6 finals:mjlol:

The question should be why is Lebron so mentally weak? Y’all told us he was faster stronger bigger with a 3 ball
 
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RedBull said:
We using the season tournament as a stat padding accomplishment for Bron? :wtf:

He doesn’t need that to bolster his legacy. It doesn’t have a positive OR negative effect on his GOAT aspirations.

This era is sorry:snoop:
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It’s the Lebron era breh, we got play in tournaments to help non playoff teams and we got in season tournaments to help Lebron get that early access championship just in case he gets mopped again in the playoffs.

We don’t want him faking retirement or any other shenanigans :lolbron:
 
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Osmosis said:
Read that exchange again. MJ stan called them bums despite both averaging as many or more points than Jordan on greater efficiency.

I understand basketball quite clearly but you dudes are too hung up on your childhood to see things for what they are. 03 Jordan isn't even worth discussing, he was one of the most high volume inefficient players in NBA History. In 2002, pre injury MJ averaged 24ppg on 23 shots per game and MJ stanleys have perpetuated this myth that he was anywhere close to the level Bron has been the past few years.
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We've had this argument before -

In the 46 games that Jordan played in 01/02 before the injury, he averaged
25.1 - 6.2 - 5.3 - 1.5 - 0.5 on 42%
points - rebounds - assists - steals - blocks


Jordan's numbers were also improving as the season went on.

In his last 20 games up to the injury he averaged 27.5 - 6.4 - 5.2 - 1.3 - 0.5 on 44%

In his last 10 games up to the injury he averaged 29.7 - 6.6 - 6.1 - 1.2 - 0.3 on 47%

He was right on par with the best guards in the league at the time before the injury, pretty good for an old ass man who hadn't played in 3 years - Mike didn't have an AD to propel his status - when Bron didn't have that he did the same shyt Mike did - missed the playoffs winning just under 40 games ... not to mention, Lakers are more stacked then any version of those wizard teams ever were ... maybe Mike should of traded his whole team for KG and we could have compared this more truthfully



As far as the efficiency - Look at the type of shots Mike takes versus Lebron, nikka mainly just drives and shoots layups - If bron took the same type of shots Mike did his FG% would be like 37 percent :mjlol: - nikka has the safest game I've ever seen yet you dude constantly use this an argument material, he's essentially taking the same shots as a 90's power forward - please




If Bron can give me almost 100 points in 2 games at 38 I'll be quiet ... mind you this was in the slow ass early 2000's snail pace ...
 
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Ron Mexico said:
If he really was what yall claim he is there wouldn't be this need to constantly prop up every little thing he does. His resume would just speak for itself.

The Lebron GOAT shyt continues to be the most forced thing in sports.
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They be writing out Masters level dissertations to try and convince everyone while all the other side has to say is "Jordan" and argument over.
 
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cobra said:
people are finally realizing what I have been saying since 2016....
this 6-0 MJ argument doesn't really translate to any other sport
Messi is the Goat even tho he is 1-1 in world cups while Pele is 3-0

Just like Messi, Lebron simply played against better comp and with better longevity and is an all-around better player than Mike
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That’s how it is on the United States.

Where team accomplishments translate to the individual.

So if Jordan is the GOAT, Pippen should at least be top 20. He got 6 rings.
 
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Devil Plisken…CMS said:
While choosing his circumstances!
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Years from now when a young kid sees Bron as the all time leading scorer with over 40,000 points 10,000 rebounds 10,000 assists. All time leading playoff scorer. Probably will finish top 5 in assists and 3's made all time. Top 5-10at least in most every other major stat or will probably retire there. Not a stretch to think some will take that over Mike doing "more in less" time.
 
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Reggie said:
Years from now when a young kid sees Bron as the all time leading scorer with over 40,000 points 10,000 rebounds 10,000 assists. All time leading playoff scorer. Probably will finish top 5 in assists and 3's made all time. Top 5-10at least in most every other major stat or will probably retire there. Not a stretch to think some will take that over Mike doing "more in less" time.
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They’ll see that and see his multiple stops and will ask…why?

When it’s explained they’ll come to their own conclusions

We as a generation are well aware of Wilt’s stats but never lost context

God Speed
 
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