At some HBCUs, just 1 in 3 students is a man [Wash. Post article]

[Roger king]

Its a serious issue and it starts with having two parent households and serious oversight, turn off the tv and playstation and buy your kids books, enroll them in a local library etc

 

[TEH]

Public schools in the 21st century bashes men and belittles boys, especially black boys, to keep them away from higher education.

It’s the parents not instilling in boys what they need.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Its true. Nikkas will run everything but their brains to solve this shyt. It'll be black women, rap music, Nikka nerds, tethers, ados and all the garbage in between the bag and the pail.

Also, don't forget that many of the 1/3rd may also be black men of immigrant backgrounds, which means that black "American" men be even be pursuing higher education at a worse rate than what is being projected.

Hush, we not supposed to mention that. We just supposed to act surprised at the results 20 yrs from now.

 

[African Peasant]

Reading from these replies, a lot of you coli poster just don't like school and discipline.

 

[Tupac in a Business Suit]

Hush, we not supposed to mention that. We just supposed to act surprised at the results 20 yrs from now.

I can honestly say from my observation its most definitely worse that 1 in 3 for ADOS.

 

[HarlemHottie]

I can honestly say from my observation its most definitely worse that 1 in 3 for ADOS.

It was bad in 03, can't imagine it now.

But we can't fix it if we're not allowed to talk about it, can we? No, let's just say "black boys," I'm sure we'll fix our (unique) difficulties that way.

 

[Koli_Kat]

The way the economy is now I wouldn't blame em.

I would do trades or the military if I was growing up now. The debt ain't worth it. Even stem companies have slowed hiring

 

[Frangala]

Education is super important that's how economies develop through human capital. The reason you see a lot of natural resource rich countries in the developing world still poor is because nothing goes toward the quality of human capital which is an educated and healthy (good healthcare system) labor force who can come up with innovations that can lead to more productivity in the economy. Economists call it quality of labor you need quantity (numbers) and quality (skilled and educated).

You can apply that to the micro-level in terms of communities, Education is literally indispensable to the development of a human being and still believe it is the best option in terms of great equalizer in terms of upward mobility. Both my parents never made more than $30k combined household gross income growing up but now life for me is full of opportunities that my parents couldn't even sniff.

And we should also frame the arguments of formal education attainment AND trade not one at the expense of the other.

 

[V Skyye]

Some of the HBCUs are working to try to resolve the problem by interacting with young males before they make it out of high school. Still, the schools also need to be able to compete with other pipelines of income earning like 6certs, Apprenticeships, etc. Sometimes the cost of school vs increase income earned may not be enough to overcome just going the less costly path that pays an income that is little bit less than many of the degree fields people are going into.

Simply put, while this issue is a worrisome one for colleges and self-inflicted partner choice loss in options for some college educated women, the men are still able to make a decent income with a lot less debt going the trade skills route. As long as they have the basic skills needed in areas of reading and mathematics, they can still acquire a livable income.

So, the real focus should be dealing with the basic skills our children possess coming out of the public schools Their choices as adults are their own, but they definitely need to be well prepared enough to have those choices available to them, be it college or not. It is up to the colleges to make themselves a more appealing choice in the face of those competing options. Right now, young women are more willing to take out as many loans as needed/wanted to get their degrees (Some coming out with debt in the +50k for undergraduate non-STEM degrees). These young men are doing quick cost benefit analysis and figuring out they can do well without the overwhelming initial loan debt.

So if I had a son, I would pay for his entire college degree like I was willing to do for my daughter and sister (They got scholarships so that saved us a pretty penny), though I can understand young men looking at the costs being too prohibitive in light of other options.

I agree with this completely. A lot of Black kids are two grades behind in math and English by 3rd grade. The result is they are severely behind by high school and many of times it’s too late to try the highschool to HBCU pipeline. There has to be more realistic solutions.

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

It was like this or probably worse when I was in college

 

[Rekkapryde]

We need more encouragement at an early age for black boys, we also need to switch up how we are teaching them, boys and girls learn differently, we need more programs to bridge boys into stem, and college

But colleges need to loosen the admissions standards, and cost of tuition

I remember my freshman year it was a lot of dudes, but even more women, them numbers plummeted by time nikkas got to graduation

I drill this into my boys heads and surround them with people who also have my values

 

[BigMan]

I can honestly say from my observation its most definitely worse that 1 in 3 for ADOS.

It is but keep in mind that that stat is for HBCUs which likely have lower black of foreign descent enrollment than PWIs

But in law school I can def say maybe about half of the black folks was multigenerational African American and maybe 60-70 percent of the black folks was women

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

 

[DrBanneker]

What's going to happen is a lot of single black women out there who will not be able to find their "equal" in terms of their male counterparts. This means they will look outside the black race for relationships, ultimately having an impact on the black family structure.

Relationships are going to be interesting 20 years from now...on the face what you state is true, but the issue is there is a gender gap for all women now except maybe Asians as far as college graduates. The gap of college educated White women over college educated White men is literally what our gap was 20 years ago. Not trying to knock anyone's relationship prospects but if you have a world where there are less educated White men than educated White women, and these educated White men are also sought after by educated Asian, Latina, and Black women, it is going to make it a vicious dating market and give men license for whatever behavior. All women will face the same issue if they draw a line at having a man with the same education.

I don't think the education gap alone is going to drive IR though. The education gap was big 20-30 years ago and IR did not take off. It is cultural assimilation driving it though people give other excuses. But in the end, I hate to say this but most of the majors people get are not marketable. The upper echelon Black women may find a dearth of prospects but the average HBCU grad (man or woman) makes between $30-40k even 10 years after graduating. Claiming someone making $35k with a criminal justice degree can't date a plumber or construction worker who potentials makes more because of a degree is fallacious I think.

 

[Tupac in a Business Suit]

It is but keep in mind that that stat is for HBCUs which likely have lower black of foreign descent enrollment than PWIs

But in law school I can def say maybe about half of the black folks was multigenerational African American and maybe 60-70 percent of the black folks was women

I beg to differ but can see your point of view as well. Either way, the only way should be up for black men of any kind and the start is an education at home and in their studies.