At some HBCUs, just 1 in 3 students is a man [Wash. Post article]

[Still Benefited]

Maybe black men are slowly but surely waking up from our indoctrination


But if you dont have a plan,wandering around lost isnt the answer.

 

[Rekkapryde]

This is the direct result of failing homes and our (yes ADOS) broken family structure.

Edumacation starts in the home. NO way around this. You can have word class teachers, equipment, computers etc but if those lessons learned in school aren't reinforced in the homes than the child will not advance.

Yall acting surprised by these outcomes. We should've seen this coming because stories like these are not uncommon in Communitah's across the nation.

Baltimore test scores hit 13-year low as civil rights leader calls for CEO to be replaced​

I mean it’s not rocket fukkin science

 

[Rekkapryde]

The truth is that a lot of people are about to be left behind.
AI on the right and automation on the left...

100% agree

 

[Kooley_High]

Nah, people are fed up with schools teaching shyt that ain't relevant, nor things that cannot be applied to the real world. shyt like economics, compound interests, paying bills, building wealth, more classes focused on the 3 branches of government and their functions, and so on. If anything, we learning the WRONG kind of math that doesn't involve money and tangible economics.

They already have AP classes that cover these topics

AP United States Government and Politics – AP Students
AP Macroeconomics – AP Students | College Board

AP Microeconomics – AP Students | College Board

Study the principles of economics that apply to the behavior of individuals within an economic system.

apstudents.collegeboard.org

Granted not all of these classes are available at every school, but there is an effort being made to include these classes in Highschool.

And on top of that, you go to school with some teachers bombarding kids with homework on weekends and holidays that takes time away from their families and friends. Other non American 1st world education models the last 15 years or so are moving away from the Prussian style education and more Scandinavian-like TED TALKS style education. Even China is now encouraging kids to exercise more often and laying off the books to build back the decreasing population rate. Now that A.I. is about to come down to the teaching profession, expect a lot of kids ditching their strict teachers for computers that can break it down to them in ways that human interaction cannot. That will be the deathblow of the status quo of old.

Homework is never a bad thing imo so I disagree with it being viewed as something negative. Also, I dont think AI will change anything that much. There are already plenty of books, online material, and videos that can be used for the exact same thing as AI. If kids are using their phones for social media and not learning, what makes you think AI will make a difference? The internet, computers and smart phones were suppose to revolutionize education as well.

I haven't looked into the Scandinavian style of education so i'll research that, however I think the issue isnt the teaching style but more-so a lack of enthusiasm about school/higher education and uninvolved parents.

 

[cyndaquil]

Damn a young breh would eat good there

 

[GoAggieGo.]

The math stuff was my expertise, but my fav class in high school was AP US Government and History.

 

[Kooley_High]

I mostly haven’t heard of those programs and I’m highly educated so I imagine folks without my background haven’t heard of them either

There needs to be a better way to connect to folks who need the most support

Facts. I never learned about these programs until college or after college. I dont wholly blame my parents as they probably didnt know either but I cant help but wonder why they weren't curious about looking into it or asking questions. I was very into science as a kid but they never really did anything to nourish it. But when I took an interest in sports they bought me sports equipment, signed me up for leagues, would watch games with me etc. When i went to college I was honestly surprised about all the things these kids did in the summer involving their major.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

@get these nets from the Analytics thread:

We talked about how the highest gap for men and women is strangely in Louisiana and blue collar opportunities in oil and gas may drive this.

Checks out for me.

My momma's family is from East Texas and Louisiana. Most of her uncles went straight from high school to working in oil. Got good jobs, had big families and the wives didn't have to work. They didn't need college but encouraged their kids to get the education.

 

[DrBanneker]

Students not knowing degree paths or interests just points to a lack of college planning/prep, which again there are plenty of programs available for.

This is a bigger issue. I quoted this in the HBCU Analytics thread but if you go to an HBCU and don't study either:

Business
Engineering
Computer Science
Nursing
Architecture

You are not expected to make more than $50k even a few years after graduation with the exceptions being Morehouse and Spelman grads. The top 3 HBCU majors are business administration, biology, and criminal justice.

Checks out for me.

My momma's family is from East Texas and Louisiana. Most of her uncles went straight from high school to working in oil. Got good jobs, had big families and the wives didn't have to work. They didn't need college but encouraged their kids to get the education.

Yeah it's crazy, you don't even need a HS education sometimes for the maritime work with those OSVs supplying the rigs. Earning $50-75k in your mid twenties with minimal education and no student loan debt. Some dudes can't pass that up.

 

[DropTopDoc]

 

[DropTopDoc]

This is a bigger issue. I quoted this in the HBCU Analytics thread but if you go to an HBCU and don't study either:

Business
Engineering
Computer Science
Nursing
Architecture

You are not expected to make more than $50k even a few years after graduation with the exceptions being Morehouse and Spelman grads. The top 3 HBCU majors are business administration, biology, and criminal justice.

Yeah it's crazy, you don't even need a HS education sometimes for the maritime work with those OSVs supplying the rigs. Earning $50-75k in your mid twenties with minimal education and no student loan debt. Some dudes can't pass that up.

You want more majors we gotta demand and attend, there is no specific program that has a path to showing kids you can major in plant chain operations, yall (not you doc) will say it’s a program as if these things are easily accessible, or at the local high schools, again I’ll reference upward bound, they had a quota and after that you can’t get in, but the number was (not like thousands, more like 300 ) and this was Chicago, where there are 100’s of thousands of black kids
Then we used Ada s McKinley and my mom found out about them on a humbug

Ada S. McKinley Community Services

The mission of Ada S. McKinley is to empower, educate, and employ people to change lives and strengthen communities. The vision of Ada S. McKinley is for all people to have the opportunity for education and employment.

www.adasmckinley.org

And i bet if i asked the Chicago folks, gun to your head did you know about them, they’d probably say no

 

[ogc163]

A major part of the issue is social capital aka where you rank in the social hierarchy amongst your peers. If you aren't getting the social credit for being academically successful and can gain it in other ways, it decreases the incentive to do well in class.

Plus, it's been known for awhile that starting around the second year of junior high school/puberty that kids stop thinking primarily on how to impress their parents and shift to focusing on impressing their peers.

And so, I think a major part of the solution for the parents of Black boys is to figure out where to send them to junior high school because that's when the internal narratives/social identities in regards to how academics and social status should interact start to form. That process involves being more intentional about how to filter out schools, but too many parents don't really have a consistent framework on how to do that.

I feel bad for the parents because as this thread showcases, older cats who "made it" who lean left want to do the whole neoliberalism/Capitalism shtick, while their counterparts on the right give them some bootstrap/"if I could do it, why can't your son" rhetoric that both fall short of providing a resilient process to help their sons navigate the college admissions/university life gauntlet.

 

[BigMan]

A major part of the issue is social capital aka where you rank in the social hierarchy amongst your peers. If you aren't getting the social credit for being academically successful and can gain it in other ways, it decreases the incentive to do well in class.

Plus, it's been known for awhile that starting around the second year of junior high school/puberty that kids stop thinking primarily on how to impress their parents and shift to focusing on impressing their peers.

And so, I think a major part of the solution for the parents of Black boys is to figure out where to send them to junior high school because that's when the internal narratives/social identities in regards to how academics and social status should interact start to form. That process involves being more intentional about how to filter out schools, but too many parents don't really have a consistent framework on how to do that.

I feel bad for the parents because as this thread showcases, older cats who "made it" who lean left want to do the whole neoliberalism/Capitalism shtick, while their counterparts on the right give them some bootstrap/"if I could do it, why can't your son" rhetoric that both fall short of providing a resilient process to help their sons navigate the college admissions/university life gauntlet.

One potential solution is all boy middle/high schools

They tend to have better outcomes than boys in coed public schools

In that type of environment, academic excellence of boys is more valued

 

[ogc163]

Racial disparities in the high school graduation gender gap​

Richard V. Reeves, Simran Kalkat

In previous work, we showed the wide gender gap in on-time high school graduation rates for the states where data broken down by sex is readily available. Here we repeat this analysis with more up-to-date data for 36 states. We then dig deeper into the intersection of race and sex. In this article, we analyze graduation data only for the five largest states where the data is readily available by both sex and race with cohort sizes: California, Florida, New York, Michigan and Virginia. Our main findings are:

• In 2021, in the states with available data about 89% of girls graduated on time compared to 83% of boys—a 6 percentage-point gap
• But there are big differences in the gender gap by race in the five large states, with a 9 percentage-point gap between Black and Hispanic girls and Black boys compared to 4-point gender gap for white students and a 3-point gap for Asian students.
• In some states the on-time high school graduation rates for specific sub-groups are quite low. In Michigan, for example, only 61% of Black boys graduate high school on time, compared to 75% of Black girls, 81% of white boys, and 87% of white girls

The fact that the data for on-time high school graduation rates cannot be analyzed in this way at a national level—because states are not required to report this data by sex—impedes our understanding of educational disparities by race and gender. Given the growing attention to these issues, for example in the formation of the Commission on the Social Status of Black Men and Boys, this is a data gap that legislators ought to address.

Girls graduate high school at higher rates than boys​

Because the data is not available nationally, we collected high school graduation rates by gender from individual states. Specifically, we examine the Adjusted Cohort Graduation Rate (ACGR), the most precise measure of high school graduation rates. As discussed in the previous Brookings analysis on gender gaps in high school graduation, the ACGR adjusts for cohort changes such as emigration, transfer, and death, and is more reliable than its predecessor, the Adjusted Freshman Graduation Rate (AFGR).

For the graduating class of 2021, only 36 states have readily accessible graduation data reported separately by sex. Of those 36 states, 30 report cohort sizes, accounting for approximately 74% of students nationally.[1] The 2021 graduation rate across these 28 states was 89.1% for girls and 82.9% for boys. (Of course, 2021 was a year that was impacted by the pandemic, so these results and those that follow should be viewed in that light). Figure 1 shows the ACGR for boys and girls in the 36 states with some graduation data by sex:

Both the gender gap and the overall level of on-time high school graduation vary widely by state. In New Mexico, boys trailed girls by almost 9 percentage points in high school graduation, whereas in Vermont, the state with the smallest gender gap, boys were behind girls by just over 2 percentage points. But in every single state where data are available, boys’ graduation rates lag those of girls. This is just one of the education disparities discussed in Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do About It.

Much bigger gender gaps for Black and Hispanic students​

Of the 36 states with readily-accessible data on high school graduation by sex, just 10 of those states provide information by race, sex, and cohort size.[2] Here we focus on the five largest states that have high school graduation by race and sex along with cohort sizes among that group: California, Michigan, New York, Virginia, and Florida. The average graduation rates by race and sex across those five states are shown in Figure 2.

White and Asian students are more likely to graduate high school on time than Black and Hispanic students. But there is a big difference in the gender gap by race. The gender gap is the highest among Hispanic and Black students at 9 percentage points compared to white students with a roughly 5 percentage point gap in high school graduation. In 2021, 76% of Black boys finished high school compared to 87% of white boys. In Figure 3, we show the graduation rates by race and sex for the five largest states for which we have the data.

The overall picture is of large, overlapping gaps by both race and sex. In every state, the white and Asian graduation rates are higher than those for Black and Hispanic students. But there is significant variation in the intersection of race and gender. In some states, such as Florida and Virginia, Black girls and white boysgraduate at similar rates, even as Black boys fall well below white boys, and white girls have much high rates than Black girls. In other states, such as California, Black students – male and female – are faring much worse, while Hispanic students are doing somewhat better. Of the five states, Florida and Virginia have smaller gender gaps overall. And in Michigan, only 61% of Black boys finished high school on time in 2021, which is 14 percentage points lower than the rate for Black girls in the state, and 20 percentage points lower than for white boys.

Can we get the data, please?​

As we wrote in our previous piece, policymakers are rightly focused on making sure even more young Americans successfully complete their high school education and on further narrowing gaps between various subgroups. To that end, the Department of Education requires states to report high school completion rates for the prior academic year to track progress at a national level.

The Every Student Succeeds Act, passed in 2015, requires states and local education agencies (LEAs) to report the ACGR disaggregated by subgroups. Currently the law states that the data must be disaggregated by race, economic disadvantage, disability, foster care, homelessness, and for English learners. But not by sex or gender. The disaggregated data has proven valuable for assessing progress towards more equitable outcomes, especially for marginalized groups. But there is one glaring omission in the subgroups for which data is available: sex. This means we do not know the national high school graduation rates for girls and boys, nor for subgroups by race and gender, for example for Black boys. Considering how the gender gap in high school is also a racial one, it is important for policymakers to push for more complete data.

Requiring states to report their high school graduation data by sex, as well as by sex and race would not impose a new burden: states are collecting the data already. Given the growing concerns of policymakers to address educational inequities, especially considering the impact of the pandemic, it is time to address this oversight.

Racial disparities in the high school graduation gender gap

In previous work, we showed the wide gender gap in on-time high school graduation rates for the states where data broken down by sex is readily available. Here we repeat this analysis with more up-…

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[TaxCollector13459]

Shii outside of the military requiring it for what I wanted, fukk college, I wouldn’t have gone personally…