As nice as Cordae is, I can't get into his music

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Ehh, De la and tribe exist. But I definitely understand and recognise this point
both those groups had to do more then their fair share of fighting due to their perception.

De la is known for delivering beat downs because people thought they were soft with the flower imagery. their DJ is a big guy and he throws down.

it's gotten better over the years but rap fans still give regular rappers a hard ass time.
 

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both those groups had to do more then their fair share of fighting due to their perception.

De la is known for delivering beat downs because people thought they were soft with the flower imagery. their DJ is a big guy and he throws down.

it's gotten better over the years but rap fans still give regular rappers a hard ass time.

Yeah, of course. and then there is "de la soul is dead"
 

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u listened and didnt like it.
why do you feel you have to get into a person music
 

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Rap fans and these rappers with these wild background stories are like Vince McMahon's obsession with big bulky roided up wrestlers with limited movesets
It’s not a need for a wild backstory it’s he has no backstory that’s interesting. A lot of rappers I loved growing up didn’t have a wild back story but it was interesting. Like you felt their personality through the music, where they’re from, what they’re into. I don’t get that feel from Cordae’s songs.
 

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u listened and didnt like it.
why do you feel you have to get into a person music
Usually if someone can rap really well, I like their music to some extent. It’s just weird to me it’s been a new lot of rappers that rap well but don’t move me. And I’m figuring out what it is wondering if anyone else felt the same way.
 

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There's like this new breed of MC that are dope lyrically, but I can't get into their music and it seems the reason is, is because they have no backstory/background that's interesting. A bunch of nice raps with nothing behind it.
They don't self reflect at all. You don't have to have a wild life to be dope and command attention.

Phonte in the Little Brother days rapped about his regular ass life and I was into it because he would actually open up. These kids rap just to rap
 

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Music is entertainment. I don't want to hear average Joe rap. That's why Phonte never blew even though he super nice, he just raps about regular black man shyt there is no escapism.
 

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how?

never heard Cordae played on repeat anywhere. he's recognized not forced

there's no longer artist development and rappers learn on the job. Cordae has the same rough things about him Cole did. Cole took a long ass time to make decent albums. Like Cordae he can kill features and verses but had to develop better bodies of work. these dudes don't lack a story they just don't have a contrived one that appeals to the values people have come to look for in rap... how real you are, went thru a struggle, feared/respected where you come from etc etc.

if you wanna be discounted and hated in rap the worst thing you can be is a regular ass person.
Also Cole came out when that type of rap was in demand due to blogs, message boards, mixtapes and underground fans having a real influence on rap

Cordae would be much more successful if he was around in 2009.
 

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Music is entertainment. I don't want to hear average Joe rap. That's why Phonte never blew even though he super nice, he just raps about regular black man shyt there is no escapism.
Cole, wale, wiz, cudi, drake, big Sean, bob, rocky all blew up

and they all have 1 thing in common
 
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I think some of these suburb/non-street rappers need to take a page out of Tyler's book and get a bit more versatile and visually creative. I personally don't really fukk with Cordae cause I think he's an opportunistic snake, but there's nothing about Cordae that grabs me and makes me want to hear what he's talking about considering he's not at such a high technical level to where I want to hear him rap about anything.

I mentioned Tyler because as a rapper, he's super limited and his personal story isn't too different from the average black boy growing up in the suburbs, but he makes up for it by standing out musically (I guess being a producer helps), every album has a different visual/branding aesthetic and he knows how to tell a story/concept with his albums like they're indie movies and it's not on some typical street shyt or getting money and hoes type raps.

Dudes need to try be artists more and less rappers
 
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