As nice as Cordae is, I can't get into his music

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Music is entertainment. I don't want to hear average Joe rap. That's why Phonte never blew even though he super nice, he just raps about regular black man shyt there is no escapism.
Ehhh dont do that.

Phonte is actually talented as fukk at what he raps about. These other guys aren't.
 

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I think some of these suburb/non-street rappers need to take a page out of Tyler's book and get a bit more versatile and visually creative. I personally don't really fukk with Cordae cause I think he's an opportunistic snake, but there's nothing about Cordae that grabs me and makes me want to hear what he's talking about considering he's not at such a high technical level to where I want to hear him rap about anything.

I mentioned Tyler because as a rapper, he's super limited and his personal story isn't too different from the average black boy growing up in the suburbs, but he makes up for it by standing out musically (I guess being a producer helps), every album has a different visual/branding aesthetic and he knows how to tell a story/concept with his albums like they're indie movies and it's not on some typical street shyt or getting money and hoes type raps.

Dudes need to try be artists more and less rappers
Tyler also came onto the scene as the leader of a crew with crazy shock value as his calling card.



Tyler was able to reinvent himself midway through his career. Cordae might be a ways away from doing that himself.
 

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They are all womanizing cool nikkas in their raps which Is a form of escapism and fantasy, and Cudi has the emo gimmick cacs like.
Cudi created the whole emo rap lane that nikkas like trippie redd and juice wrld ran with along with lil uzi
Him and Kanye along with Wayne really had an effect on today's music

As for cordae he cut from that Cole and Kendrick cloth of regular rap
 

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It’s not a need for a wild backstory it’s he has no backstory that’s interesting. A lot of rappers I loved growing up didn’t have a wild back story but it was interesting. Like you felt their personality through the music, where they’re from, what they’re into. I don’t get that feel from Cordae’s songs.
Basically you feel that Cordae hasn’t struggled enough in life to relate. We all gravitate to people who been through it because life is more struggle than anything else and we want that reflected in the music but also the triumph of overcoming those struggles.
 

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Basically you feel that Cordae hasn’t struggled enough in life to relate. We all gravitate to people who been through it because life is more struggle than anything else and we want that reflected in the music but also the triumph of overcoming those struggles.
Or even if he didn't struggle but he had a significant message. I think Chuck D grew up in the suburbs and he's one of my favorites. But his message was overpowering and meant something and you can see passion behind it. Cordae just be rapping, you can tell he's not street but like someone else said, you can tell he's also not well read or has anything above a surface level of understanding life. He's a kid who played video games and started rapping because he knew technically how to put it together well.
 

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Cordae
Los
Joyner Lucas

And several others, dope in the technical aspects but pretty empty artists
Los to me is a different kinda rapper than the other two, but I get what you're saying. I don't listen to Los music like that either. He's levels above the other two as an MC though.
 

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You named 5 rappers with legit mainstream success that aren’t street rappers and those rappers debut were at least 10 years ago
Exactly 5 and they are more interesting than JId and Cordae are. Even Rapsody and so is Isaiah Rasheed and it wasn't 10 years ago in his case either.
 

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I think some of these suburb/non-street rappers need to take a page out of Tyler's book and get a bit more versatile and visually creative. I personally don't really fukk with Cordae cause I think he's an opportunistic snake, but there's nothing about Cordae that grabs me and makes me want to hear what he's talking about considering he's not at such a high technical level to where I want to hear him rap about anything.

I mentioned Tyler because as a rapper, he's super limited and his personal story isn't too different from the average black boy growing up in the suburbs, but he makes up for it by standing out musically (I guess being a producer helps), every album has a different visual/branding aesthetic and he knows how to tell a story/concept with his albums like they're indie movies and it's not on some typical street shyt or getting money and hoes type raps.

Dudes need to try be artists more and less rappers

Could you elaborate further?
 

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I feel the same way about JID. They don't talk about shyt.
Y’all just be saying anything lol.

Y’all want those contrived comic book origin stories and this doesnt work with social media & the internet. Folks will get exposed quick if they aren’t what they say.
 

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how?

never heard Cordae played on repeat anywhere. he's recognized not forced

there's no longer artist development and rappers learn on the job. Cordae has the same rough things about him Cole did. Cole took a long ass time to make decent albums. Like Cordae he can kill features and verses but had to develop better bodies of work. these dudes don't lack a story they just don't have a contrived one that appeals to the values people have come to look for in rap... how real you are, went thru a struggle, feared/respected where you come from etc etc.

if you wanna be discounted and hated in rap the worst thing you can be is a regular ass person.

KRIT said it a long time ago, "I guess the story of a country boy just ain't compelling."

Imagine Check the Rhyme coming out in this climate. Tribe was just spittin about regular around the way shyt and it was dope as hell.
 

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Y’all just be saying anything lol.

Y’all want those contrived comic book origin stories and this doesnt work with social media & the internet. Folks will get exposed quick if they aren’t what they say.
It's not about being contrived or having a crazy origin story just be creative and really say something. We get you can rap but what are you saying that hasn't been said or hasn't been said like that. That's the challenge.
 

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It's not about being contrived or having a crazy origin story just be creative and really say something. We get you can rap but what are you saying that hasn't been said or hasn't been said like that. That's the challenge.
Rap been around 40+ years… Pretty much everything has been said at this point. From every region with every kind of production.
 
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