Angry Democratic Donors Turn Off The Flow Of Money - “I’ll be blunt here: The Democratic Party is f‑‑‑ing terrible

[Ozymandeas]

Why would they be against a Trump when he is saying and doing everything they want?

Progressives would jump through fire for Bernie because he says and promises to do everything we want.

The Dem party’s problem is that they serve two masters. The primary master is big business and secondary master are the people.

The fact that people like you defend and make excuses for this obvious conflict of interest is the real problem.

Hakeem and Chuck are acting all nonchalant while the house is burning because they really don’t care. They are careerist. You can tell who is in it to fight and who is in it for money and power. The entire Dem leadership is compromised and they should just get out of the way and let those with the heart to fight lead.

I almost didn't respond because of how dishonest this post was.

Progressives and MAGAs are the same thing They're the extreme wings of the Republican and the Democrat parties.

The difference is MAGAs are in full support of Trump whereas the Progressives were telling people to not vote for genocide. And then years before that with Biden, yall told people to not vote because he was a bland candidate. Then years before that with Hilary, yall told people not to vote for her. How are yall a benefit to us telling people to not vote for our picks? We have to fight Republicans and then we have to fight yall too, I wish yall just left

 

[JT-Money]

Both of these clowns are terrible.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Democrats fall in and out of love. They’re more individualistic, finicky and won’t support the dems if their faction doesn’t control the party politically and ideologically. Progressives refused to support Clinton, Biden and Harris in three straight elections as soon as their favorite candidate Bernie Sanders got taken out early in the primaries. Unfortunately, under their umbrella, the Dems have to please a lot of people that wouldn’t associate with each other in real life without the affiliations of the Democratic Party. Transgender activists, Gay rights activists, Bernie Bros, green peace/ecologists, Jews, Indians, Asians, upper class educated white liberals, latin American lobby groups, and regular Black Americans have nothing in common with each other. It’s hard for any party to keep in line different groups of people with different interests and keep them all on the same page. On the republican side, they seem politically homogeneous except for MAGA. That’s why they find an easier way to forget their very small ideological differences and join forces together. What are the differences between the mitt Romney types, the neocons dikk Cheney types, the pro business/conservative types, and the family values/christian types? Not much. They’re all mostly white and moderate center-right/right conservatives. They’re mostly more or less cultural Christians. They have many things in common from a racial, political, financial, cultural and social point of view. The only exception among the republican party is the loud and proud maga cult who is a far-right populist and white nationalist/nativist movement led by a socially authoritarian dictator like trump. The final evolution of the Obama birther/Tea Party movement as you said.

But it’s true that Republicans always fall in line and never get out of line. They will always be loyal to the chosen candidate of the gop no matter what. They keep their focus and eyes on the prize, victory, unlike many myopic and chronically online dems who always want to prove a point and fight for ideological purity. They’re too dogmatic for their own good, republicans are more pragmatic. Progressive democrats in particular had tunnel vision while the many republican voters saw the bigger picture.

Damn. I agree with everything. That's exactly how I see it and it's sad.

As far as the bolded, there are very few meaningful differences between those types on the Republican side. They can all find common ground whereas we're trying to find consensus between all these people. The red bolded still pisses me off. Clinton and Harris could've won if everyone was on the same page. Biden got lucky that the country was so tired of Trump after Covid because he probably would've suffered the same fate.

 

[acri1]

A Centrist Nominee will be the only way Dems win the next election. The minute anyone perceives anything "commi, woke, or gay" they will lose

Do you think a woman or black person could win?

I feel like ant Dem that isn’t a straight white guy will be seen that way no matter what they do.

 

[Left.A1]

Whats funny in all of this discussion is the thought or belief that people/voters will become more docile and conciliatory to mainstreamism or mainstream democratic ideology during these next 4 years of Trumps presidency. That's what the democratic leadership base is banking on….hoping that they can guilt trip people into voting them back into power and embracing status quo politics.

Which is just hilarious as we've seen time and time again what happens when you have authoritarian or incompetent conservative leadership in the white house in this country.…people become more radical not less...

We saw this during and following the Nixon era (Racial politics, women’s liberation, radical environmentalism) after Reaganomics (resurgence of black nationalism in early 90s, 3rd wave feminism, labor & lgbt activism) after Bush Jr (elected a black man) after Trump 1 (George Floyd riots etc etc etc) this shyt ain't gone go in the direction these dinosaur neo-liberals believe its going to go…but yet and still the press on trying to convince people to embrace being more docile towards their outdated and consistently failed strategies its comical to watch play out in real time

 

[Left.A1]

I’m black…

First of all until you get this delusional shyt out of your curry eating ass black cosplaying head nobody on this board should take your goofy ass serious about anything

 

[JT-Money]

Sounds like Bothsides talking points.

 

[Fillerguy]

This ain't gonna end well. Democrats will still be fighting internally up until the midterms.

Another L incoming.

He really trying to sell to us that the opposition party are other democratic voters. I got an uppercut waiting for this bytch.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I almost didn't respond because of how dishonest this post was.

Progressives and MAGAs are the same thing They're the extreme wings of the Republican and the Democrat parties.

The difference is MAGAs are in full support of Trump whereas the Progressives were telling people to not vote for genocide. And then years before that with Biden, yall told people to not vote because he was a bland candidate. Then years before that with Hilary, yall told people not to vote for her. How are yall a benefit to us telling people to not vote for our picks? We have to fight Republicans and then we have to fight yall too, I wish yall just left

I think you're oversimplifying things out of anger. There were a lot of people critical of the things you described but still voted for the persons because they understand the strategic nature of voting in a general election. I think those people make up a larger chunk than the outsized voices you see on the internet rallying around bad actors like Jill Stein. Progressives may criticize candidates, but many still vote in ways that reflect a deeper understanding of the stakes. The idea that progressives are automatically an obstacle to progress overlooks the fact that criticism and voting strategically are not mutually exclusive.

 

[BaggerofTea]

Jeffries being centrist isn't the problem.

It's the issue that he doesn't know how to speak with his chest, lacks conviction, lacks high energy radicalism needed to coalesce the wagons.

Breh is too soft in the chest

 

[br82186]

And its going to stay that way with their current leaders in charge

Even if they change leaders n-gga's will still bytch and moan

 

[Left.A1]

I think you're oversimplifying things out of anger. There were a lot of people critical of the things you described but still voted for the persons because they understand the strategic nature of voting in a general election. I think those people make up a larger chunk than the outsized voices you see on the internet rallying around bad actors like Jill Stein. Progressives may criticize candidates, but many still vote in ways that reflect a deeper understanding of the stakes. The idea that progressives are automatically an obstacle to progress overlooks the fact that criticism and voting strategically are not mutually exclusive.

Bernie Sanders was literally campaigning for every top of the ticket Dem. When have you ever seen Trump or his MAGA base do that for someone who isn't MAGA loyal.…its an absurd comparison from an unserious known c00n

 

[Left.A1]

Even if they change leaders n-gga's will still bytch and moan

They're not changing leaders and will continue to lose as I said

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I think you're oversimplifying things out of anger. There were a lot of people critical of the things you described but still voted for the persons because they understand the strategic nature of voting in a general election. I think those people make up a larger chunk than the outsized voices you see on the internet rallying around bad actors like Jill Stein. Progressives may criticize candidates, but many still vote in ways that reflect a deeper understanding of the stakes. The idea that progressives are automatically an obstacle to progress overlooks the fact that criticism and voting strategically are not mutually exclusive.

Why are progressives so unhappy that their protests against democrats worked?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Jeffries being centrist isn't the problem.

It's the issue that he doesn't know how to speak with his chest, lacks conviction, lacks high energy radicalism needed to coalesce the wagons.

Breh is too soft in the chest

yall are so full of shyt. when Jeffries was on the bench yall liked him. now he’s out front, and he doesn’t empower you