Andre 3000: ‘It Kills Me When People Try To Put Big Boi Down’

[spliz]

I got a list here's the order of my list that it's in
It goes Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie
Andre from OutKast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me - Eminem 2002

Group disbanded AFTER that.

Trust me there are a LOT of other examples. People were calling 3 Stacks a top rapper and most DEF better than Big Boi since the late 90's.

I really don't give a shyt about what that whiteboy thinks fam..lol..main thing is it hasn't been some GENERAL CONSENSUS until he stopped rapping...fact is I don't care if u like Andre better..it gives these nikkas no right to shyt on Big Boi like Andre made that damn group when in reality..looking at the whole situation...Big Boi was the heart of that fukkin group...if he wasn't there to keep Dre grounded who fukkin knows what Outkast would've turned into MUCH sooner...nikkas be really tryna treat it like Andre was the genius and Big Boi was there for the ride or some shyt..and that's the complete opposite of true..and it's downright disrespectful to that man especially considering the fact that he's solely been holding up the Outkast name since the early 00s...all these nikkas like JayZ can act like Andre was this end all be all all they want...I didn't see him going to Dre for features...but he damn sure went to Big Boi...didn't see Missy going to Dre for features..but she damn sure went to Big Boi...most of the biggest singles or album cuts earlier on that featured an Outkast artist on it...was Big Boi...now u prolly cant even get these lame ass nikkas to answer his calls...its wack..and revisionist..period...

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

I really don't give a shyt about what that whiteboy thinks fam..lol..main thing is it hasn't been some GENERAL CONSENSUS until he stopped rapping...fact is I don't care if u like Andre better..it gives these nikkas no right to shyt on Big Boi like Andre made that damn group when in reality..looking at the whole situation...Big Boi was the heart of that fukkin group...if he wasn't there to keep Dre grounded who fukkin knows what Outkast would've turned into MUCH sooner...nikkas be really tryna treat it like Andre was the genius and Big Boi was there for the ride or some shyt..and that's the complete opposite of true..and it's downright disrespectful to that man especially considering the fact that he's solely been holding up the Outkast name since the early 00s...all these nikkas like JayZ can act like Andre was this end all be all all they want...I didn't see him going to Dre for features...but he damn sure went to Big Boi...didn't see Missy going to Dre for features..but she damn sure went to Big Boi...most of the biggest singles or album cuts earlier on that featured an Outkast artist on it...was Big Boi...now u prolly cant even get these lame ass nikkas to answer his calls...its wack..and revisionist..period...

tell em y u mad son.

Ight let's clarify a few things.

1.) I never said Dre made the group..simply that he's better. Big Boi is a great compliment to Dre.
2.) Dre get's called for features but he's a not recluse and often just turns shyt down
3.) It's a pretty general consensus that 3 stacks is better. IRL and on the world wide innanetz

 

[lutha]

only people that try to do what dre said are people that dont listen to the music...big boi has been nice since the beginning, but his flow wasnt perfected; and with dre coming out the gate like he did murdering shyt, he got overlooked....but people started paying attention to big boi once 'atliens' dropped and he had his flow down...after that, he's been getting props from people that listen to the music....

 

[lutha]

also: no, dre didnt carry big boi on the first album...big boi did his thing on the album, it's just dre came out so hard that it had people in awe....dude really is that nice on the mic....

 

[feelsthecitybreathin]

let me know when dre drops a solo hip hop album as dope as lucious left foot

 

[Champ_KW]

Didn't Cee-Lo say on their Behind the Music that Dre wrote Big's verses on the first album?

 

[rip928]

Big Boi always was cold on the mic. ALWAYS. There is no Dre as we know him, without Big. They were necessary to each other. Honestly, Big was the reason some of their core fans kept listening to Outkast when Dre started to really get existential wit his rhymes (nyggas flipped out during the white wig, shoulder pads stage). Their identity started changing from southernplayalistic to atliens, but it was ok cause there was a balance still. They are a real group, where you feed off the other, collaborate on ideas and compete to make a song the best it can be. It's not like Dre just go in the booth and drop a 16, followed by Big, tell the engineer run that and wait for a magazine or blog say who was better.

If ya'll havent noticed yet, Dre is very, very self conscious about how his music is received (I really think this is why he doesn't want to do a legitimate solo). You know what gave him the confidence to be "that" Dre everybody loves? Big being the grounded one who, to this day, still represents the core of what Outkast is--edutainment music filled with sharp lyricism and boundless wit over banging melodic beats. Dre drops outstanding guest verses, but he is SPECIAL with Big. Is Dre better than Big? I can't say. I don't really know who Dre is without Big, but Big has done more than held his own.

Can't wait to hit up Centennial Park Sunday and watch them kill it.

 

[Master Teacher]

Big Boi always was cold on the mic. ALWAYS. There is no Dre as we know him, without Big. They were necessary to each other. Honestly, Big was the reason some of their core fans kept listening to Outkast when Dre started to really get existential wit his rhymes (nyggas flipped out during the white wig, shoulder pads stage). Their identity started changing from southernplayalistic to atliens, but it was ok cause there was a balance still. They are a real group, where you feed off the other, collaborate on ideas and compete to make a song the best it can be. It's not like Dre just go in the booth and drop a 16, followed by Big, tell the engineer run that and wait for a magazine or blog say who was better.

If ya'll havent noticed yet, Dre is very, very self conscious about how his music is received (I really think this is why he doesn't want to do a legitimate solo). You know what gave him the confidence to be "that" Dre everybody loves? Big being the grounded one who, to this day, still represents the core of what Outkast is--edutainment music filled with sharp lyricism and boundless wit over banging melodic beats. Dre drops outstanding guest verses, but he is SPECIAL with Big. Is Dre better than Big? I can't say. I don't really know who Dre is without Big, but Big has done more than held his own.

Can't wait to hit up Centennial Park Sunday and watch them kill it.

People didn't start saying Dre was better to that love below shyt came out

outkast was always been alright to me, they got some classic songs, but I never fukked with any of their albums from beginning to end just wasn't feeling them like that

Dre's guest verses are hotter than anything i heard him spit on any outkast album, I think dre's the type that needs to feed off someone else to rise to greatness

you can't say you're one of the greatest rappers with no solo album to validate it

 

[unseen]

as far as im concerned they were pretty much equal

big boi was just a more traditional mc

its andre's wierd persona that kind of set him apart mostly not his skill

he had that singing shyt going for him and it was interesting but his rap catalogue shyts on the style he experimented with on the love below

i respect big boi for sticking to his persona and not changing up while andre was trying to be some freakshow/wannabe jimi hendrix

 

[MrJimenez619]

as far as im concerned they were pretty much equal

big boi was just a more traditional mc

its andre's wierd persona that kind of set him apart mostly not his skill

he had that singing shyt going for him and it was interesting but his rap catalogue shyts on the style he experimented with on the love below

i respect big boi for sticking to his persona and not changing up while andre was trying to be some freakshow/wannabe jimi hendrix

It's the Badu effect, brah. shyt is all too real.

 

[spliz]

Didn't Cee-Lo say on their Behind the Music that Dre wrote Big's verses on the first album?

Nah...it was an interview and Big Boi nipped that shyt in the bud real quick...

 

[spliz]

People didn't start saying Dre was better to that love below shyt came out

outkast was always been alright to me, they got some classic songs, but I never fukked with any of their albums from beginning to end just wasn't feeling them like that

Dre's guest verses are hotter than anything i heard him spit on any outkast album, I think dre's the type that needs to feed off someone else to rise to greatness

you can't say you're one of the greatest rappers with no solo album to validate it

I agree with everything said here except I fukked wit Outkast's albums and I believe his guest verses aren't better than alotta album verses...

 

[HalfwayHandsome]

Got damn those are some big ass words

 

[Dzali OG]

It's like this...

Dre...did carry fat sack the first album. In the sense that the south wasn't on the scene yet and other regions still weren't feeling our style yet.

While Dre's style was more crossover to east coast appeal, big boi was just straight southern. Plus he hadn't perfected his flow. It was too fast and just...southern. His punches and metaphors weren't on point, nor his mic presence. While Andre had it from the door. Will never forget the first few verses off that first album:

"It's Andre...can yo punk ass come out and play"

That one line had nikkas open...

Big started catching up by Atliens, and after that album he did some cameos where he was just on point!

Big, after the first, was just the more street member of the group. And remember, we always love the more hood nikkas than the non - traditional nikkas.

So I'm really ready to say big boi has surpassed Andre. He has more actually work out there. Just some time I don't like Billy oceans delivery when he use that fast flip style.

Actually big boi been fire since he ssid, we can hit the parking lot and I'll sick your duck...lol!

Dre used to come with some ol deep shyt, while boi just kept it hood.

 

[lutha]

People didn't start saying Dre was better to that love below shyt came out

outkast was always been alright to me, they got some classic songs, but I never fukked with any of their albums from beginning to end just wasn't feeling them like that

Dre's guest verses are hotter than anything i heard him spit on any outkast album, I think dre's the type that needs to feed off someone else to rise to greatness

you can't say you're one of the greatest rappers with no solo album to validate it

not true...people were saying dre was better than big boi from the jump, but no one was saying he carried big boi......big boi was doing his thing, but his flow wasn't perfected yet and it was just the fact dre was that nice on the mic, people ignored how nice big boi was....people didn't start paying attention until atliens....that's when he started killing everything cause he perfected his flow....also, he started dropping guest spots, so he got all the attention and shined....particularly that missy Elliot one...after that, even though people thought dre was better, the whose the better mc debates started to get more even between the 2....