Ancestry DNA Matches from Africa - Are These Questions Ok to Ask Them or Nah?

[Samori Toure]

What if your haplogroups aren't African tho? Is African Ancestry a waste of time?

Also, you seem pretty knowledgeable on this stuff. Do you know where I can find any info on early coastal South Carolina history and the intermingling of Native Americans and Africans before the English settled? On 23andme, I got a 2nd/3rd cousin from the county my fam from in SC. We both got Native American haplogroups but they are different, (mine is D1/hers is B2). But we barely got any NA DNA so how far back is this shyt exactly? I read in a book how the Spanish brought some Africans to the coast of SC in the 1500s, shyt popped off and the Africans got away and lived among the Native Americans. But that's all I've found so far on the history.

I'm starting to think we might be the real Native Americans forreal like those Moorish Science Temple cats preach

If your haplogroups are not African then African Ancestry will let you know.

The Spanish could have very well landed in South Carolina after all they were among the first Europeans in the Americas. An AncestryDNA test might disclose whether you are from a genetic community in South Carolina. I don't know much about Native American DNA in African Americans, but from what I have read it is not very high. A more common explanation for that type of haplogroup could be in Madagascar. Indonesians landed on Madagascar a few centuries back wherein quite a few Indonesian women married a number of African men. The English and Portuguese later took slaves from that Island and DNA testing has shown that the Asian DNA in African Americans. The Native people are also descended from Asians.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

As an aside, do these two resemble Tia and Tamera?

 

[Skooby]

As an aside, do these two resemble Tia and Tamera?

Slightly.

 

[TNOT]

If your haplogroups are not African then African Ancestry will let you know.

The Spanish could have very well landed in South Carolina after all they were among the first Europeans in the Americas. An AncestryDNA test might disclose whether you are from a genetic community in South Carolina. I don't know much about Native American DNA in African Americans, but from what I have read it is not very high. A more common explanation for that type of haplogroup could be in Madagascar. Indonesians landed on Madagascar a few centuries back wherein quite a few Indonesian women married a number of African men. The English and Portuguese later took slaves from that Island and DNA testing has shown that the Asian DNA in African Americans. The Native people are also descended from Asians.

I guess this explains my breakdown. I also think I need to do another test. I just haven't decided on which one. I'm leaning toward African Ancestry.

 

[Nintendough]

These tests are highly inaccurate. Stop giving white people your DNA info

 

[Nintendough]

As an aside, do these two resemble Tia and Tamera?

lemme fukk

 

[Samori Toure]

I guess this explains my breakdown. I also think I need to do another test. I just haven't decided on which one. I'm leaning toward African Ancestry.

Yup. That looks like what I have seen as representative of that region.

 

[Samori Toure]

These tests are highly inaccurate. Stop giving white people your DNA info

African Ancestry is owned by African Americans. As for being inaccurate how can DNA that is used to identify people that committed crimes and to identify maternity and paternity in child support and adoption matters; be inaccurate?

So the tests themselves are not inaccurate. The inaccuracies likely goes back to the reference populations from which the samples are taken and the true ethnic backgrounds of the people tested; and I question how the regions are labeled. People should just take the time to learn what is actually being tested; the number of reference samples that each uses and populations that they focus on. Of course the more samples a company has the more accurate they will be. African Ancestry has the most African samples (they have over 33,000 African samples), but people need to understand that they are only testing the specific direct line of your mother and father. The importance of that is that is for people that want to know the ethnic group/tribes that their mother and family came from, however that may only be about 2%-5% of your actual DNA.

AncestryDNA; 23andme; National Geographic Genonome, etc., are doing autosomonal testing; which means that they are looking at all of a person's DNA. They all have fewer samples, which means that there may be ethnic groups in regions that they don't have samples for. So if you don't match a sample that they have; then they will likely assign you to a group that your DNA looks the most like. Those companies are constantly updating their database as they get more samples from different regions. So of course they are not as accurate as African Ancestry nor do they pretend to be.

 

[Virtuous_Brotha]

Benin/Togo seems to be very popular for the ancestry tests is this just some generic placeholder?

 

[Black Haven]

Ancestry just updated and gave me a new genetic community (besides Early Virginia African Americans) and it also highlights my hometown(Memphis) in the process.

1900–1925
Music in Memphis
Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama & Mississippi African Americans
By the turn of the 20th century, African Americans had established a strong presence in several urban centers in Tennessee. The largest was Memphis, where black-owned businesses had sprung up around Beale Street and elsewhere. The Beale Baptist Church played a central role in the community, and the area was known for its music scene with strong traditions in rhythm, blues, and gospel. Meanwhile, in Mississippi, black farmers had a tough time realizing their dream of owning their own land. Most still worked as tenant farmers or sharecroppers, growing cotton on farms of less than forty acres and often in debt to landowners.

The Great Migration
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What I also found interesting was that, it also explained the migration of black mississippians to chicago from this particular community.

1925–1950
Moving North
Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama & Mississippi African Americans
Worn down by life in a separate but unequal society, many African Americans finally decided to move north for a better chance at work, education for their children, and freedom. Many Mississippians chose Chicago, since regular trains ran to the Windy City. In the cities, they competed with Eastern European immigrants for jobs in steel and meat-packing factories and for housing, which got harder to find as whites worried about the growing African American population. The newcomers persisted and eventually made Chicago the “black capital” of the United States, as literature, business, and music poured from black communities on the West and South Sides.

The Great Migration
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The irony about this is that a ton of my family is from Chicago and that most of the transplants I meet in memphis outside of other southern cities are from Chicago with Mississippi roots. This is really dope from Ancestry.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Last week, I connected with a couple of my DNA matches from Africa.

One is a Male from Accra, Ghana from the "Ga" Tribe.

Another is also a male from Accra, Ghana and "Akan" from the Fante/Fanti tribe.

And the last is a woman from the "Abia State" of Nigeria and from the "Igbo" Tribe.

Q: I noticed for the two from Accra, Ghana - they are from two different tribes who went to war with each other. Could this possibly be how my ancestors were enslaved?

Ashanti–Fante War - Wikipedia

Ga–Fante War - Wikipedia

The Fante and the Transatlantic Slave Trade

Q: If we share 5th or 6th Grandparents - since many Africans claim they know their ancestors and lineage- is it a chance they can ask their elders, check their family tree or tribe connects to help me find out what relative(s) were sold - the one whom I descend from?

Q: Did families remember or talk about their relatives who were never seen again? Or they thought were sold into the trade?

Q: I also read some tribes even sold their relatives. Can I ask if this was something normal in their tribe's history? Or should I assume they were prisoners of war?

I don't want to offend - so that's why I want to ask here first. I do want to ask questions and see if I can trace my ancestor and learn more about them.

Which service did you use to end up finding people in Africa? I’ve done 23andme but heard ancestry is better for this type of thing

anyway, what brought me to bump this thread was the timeline feature in 23andme. The direct overlap of my most recent Congolese/Angolan line with British and the similar percentages I have of each hit me hard because I can basically deduct when my ancestor was raped. Disgusting ass white people, as if slavery weren’t enough

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Ancestry just updated and gave me a new genetic community (besides Early Virginia African Americans) and it also highlights my hometown(Memphis) in the process.


What I also found interesting was that, it also explained the migration of black mississippians to chicago from this particular community.


The irony about this is that a ton of my family is from Chicago and that most of the transplants I meet in memphis outside of other southern cities are from Chicago with Mississippi roots. This is really dope from Ancestry.

Part of the reason I want to do them as well, I saw a friends results and saw that they had interesting tracking of domestic migration

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

When you open your account go to:
1. Ancestry Reports;
2. Ancestry Composition;
3. Under Sub-Saharan African you should see the Country that they assign you to.
4. Click on the Country.
5. Scroll down and look at your timeline and click on you West African timeline and they will tell you about your most recent African ancestor that was 100% African. They will give you an estimation of when he or she was born and the relationship that they have to you (Grandparent, Great-Grandparent, Great-Great Grandparent). They are just giving an approximation, but it should be fairly accurate.

Damn, I had the family match turners off and never scrolled down when you clicked into the country results, but now I just found a cousin in Liberia

 

[Yaboysix]

Oh shyt! This is dope! This really works?

I can find my exact ancestors with this?

Them people get full control of my DNA tho right?..

 

[Skooby]

Oh shyt! This is dope! This really works?

I can find my exact ancestors with this?

Them people get full control of my DNA tho right?..

Yes it works.

It goes back 8 or 9 generations.

They don't release your DNA.