Anything significant or just percentage wise?
Ancestry DNA Matches from Africa - Are These Questions Ok to Ask Them or Nah?
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Percentages are just vastly different. And it’s not something that be explained, for instantance, if on one I had 20% Nigerian and the other I have 20% Cameroonian, well I know that Igbos and the Bamileke are genetically similar if not the same only separated by a state boundary, so it’s just the difference of test populations between the two services. But it’s something along the lines of flips between Senegal and Congo/Angola or English and German. Just weird.
23andMe just updated my results.
My overall percentages are similar but the breakout is very different:
23andMe update: 31% Nigerian, 23% Ghana/Ivory Coast, 10% Congo, 10% Broadly West African, 2% Senegal/Gambia, then less than 1% in other African categories.
Ancestry.com: 41% Congo; 30% Benin/Togo; 11% Ghana/Ivory Coast, 1% Nigeria, 1% Mali.
they really screwed up the African breakdowns
for you however, id guess that the Nigerian in 23andme and the Benin/Togo in Ancestry is the same so you probably have Benin/Togo/southwestern Nigerian ancesetry for sure
xoxodede
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What do those broadly categories meanI just saw mine a few mins ago! Crazy...
I guess I need to stop debating Nigerians and Ghanaians -- and just let those who are anti-Black american -- talk ish and just be.
xoxodede
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Broadly assigned and Unassigned ancestry
Ancestry Composition has the ability to assign pieces of your DNA at several geographic scales. This is important because DNA varies in where it’s found in the world. One piece of DNA might be found just in, say, Finnish people, so we can with some confidence call this DNA Finnish. Another piece of DNA might be found with some frequency in England, Norway, and Germany. Instead of choosing arbitrarily from among these regions, Ancestry Composition will label DNA like that "Broadly Northwestern European."
If a piece of DNA is found all over Europe, like in Ireland, Italy, Spain, and Poland, but not outside Europe, Ancestry Composition will label that DNA "Broadly European."
Finally, when Ancestry Composition encounters DNA that is very widespread, like a piece of DNA that’s found in Europe, the Near East, and Asia, it will label that DNA "Unassigned."
I recently had my 23andme percentages updated too. My Ghana/Sierra Leone/Liberia results are about right, because it reflects what I already knew from other tests; which includes the fact that I had recent ancestors in Ghana which I learned are Bissa people that live primarily in Burkina Faso and Ghana; but also in smaller numbers in Togo and Benin.
I think that new results of 23andme grossly overstates Nigeria and grossly understates Burkina Faso, Congo and Angola. This still looks like 23andme lacks enough samples from different regions. I think that AncestryDNA is still the best test, simply because they have more samples from more regions; even though their latest updates look sketchy as Hell.
I just saw mine a few mins ago! Crazy...
I guess I need to stop debating Nigerians and Ghanaians -- and just let those who are anti-Black american -- talk ish and just be.
You should stop debating it, becasue it is divisive. However, I am pretty sure that 23andme is grossly overstating the Nigerian results and grossly understating the Congo and Angola results. There is no way as an African American that your Congo and Angola tests scores are that low, because Congo/Angola produced more slaves than any other region, including in the USA where Congo/Angola produced the second largest group of slaves; barely behind the number that came from Senegambia. So what more than likely happened on 23andme is that Nigeria is a proxy for regions like Cameroon, Angola and Congo. I am actually convinced that Ancestry DNA, despite their unpopular updates is actually more accurate than 23andme; because those results actually reflect the Congo/Angolan DNA that is present in African Americans. Furthermore, I am convinced that AncestryDNA has it right in regards to regional (Countries) DNA, as the DNA for a Togo/Benin actually reflects the countries around Togo and Benin.
https://www.history.com/news/what-part-of-africa-did-most-slaves-come-from
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xoxodede
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You should stop debating it, becasue it is divisive. However, I am pretty sure that 23andme is grossly overstating the Nigerian results and grossly understating the Congo and Angola results. There is no way as an African American that your Congo and Angola tests scores are that low, because Congo/Angola produced more slaves than any other region, including in the USA where Congo/Angola produced the second largest group of slaves; barely behind the number that came from Senegambia. So what more than likely happened on 23andme is that Nigeria is a proxy for regions like Cameroon, Angola and Congo. I am actually convinced that Ancestry DNA, despite their unpopular updates is actually more accurate than 23andme; because those results actually reflect the Congo/Angolan DNA that is present in African Americans. Furthermore, I am convinced that AncestryDNA has it right in regards to regional (Countries) DNA, as the DNA for a Togo/Benin actually reflects the countries around Togo and Benin.
https://www.history.com/news/what-part-of-africa-did-most-slaves-come-from
I am. I have greatly reduced -- and ignored 95% of potential debates/arguments. I will get there.
I have to agree. On Ancestry - it states I am 1% Nigerian. I thought it was weird 23&Me had such high numbers.
I have a similar breakdown to yoursI am. I have greatly reduced -- and ignored 95% of potential debates/arguments. I will get there.
I have to agree. On Ancestry - it states I am 1% Nigerian. I thought it was weird 23&Me had such high numbers.
xoxodede
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@Akan Are you familiar with the X Chromosomes and how they work?
I ask because my maternal X Chromosome is exclusively Southern East Africa -- other than my European DNA.
The Maternal X Chromosomes "European DNA" is a mix of all the areas listed on my report.
But, her African Chromosome DNA is ONLY Southern East African.
Is that usually normal - to have one area only in your X Chromosomes?
I ask because my maternal X Chromosome is exclusively Southern East Africa -- other than my European DNA.
The Maternal X Chromosomes "European DNA" is a mix of all the areas listed on my report.
But, her African Chromosome DNA is ONLY Southern East African.
Is that usually normal - to have one area only in your X Chromosomes?
A maternal line can be in several places and among several groups. If you want to tie your DNA to a specific ethnic group then you should probably test with African Ancestry, because they have over 33,000 African samples and will likely be able to tie your direct line to a specific tribe. Ancestry and for that matter 23andMe only have about 600 or 700 samples and they only give you autosomonal results, so of course they are not going to be as accurate.
My maternal haplogroup is L2c. My paternal haplogroup is EM263.2 (formely E1b1a). I got those haplogroups from 23andMe and the National Geographic Genome Project. The 23andMe materials indicated that my maternal haplogroup was common among the Mandinka, Fulani, Wolof and Balanata people, all of whom are up around Senegambia and Guinea. My paternal line could not be determined, but it was thought to be connected to the Bantu migration.
I eventually took African Ancestry test and learned that my maternal haplogroup was 100% Mende from Sierra Leone, who are Mande people and related to the Mandinka. My paternal haplogroup was 100% Bissa (Busansi), who are also a Mande people but they are from Burkina Faso. So if you want specificity then you will have to test with a service that has more African samples.
What if your haplogroups aren't African tho? Is African Ancestry a waste of time?
Also, you seem pretty knowledgeable on this stuff. Do you know where I can find any info on early coastal South Carolina history and the intermingling of Native Americans and Africans before the English settled?
On 23andme, I got a 2nd/3rd cousin from the county my fam from in SC. We both got Native American haplogroups but they are different, (mine is D1/hers is B2). But we barely got any NA DNA so how far back is this shyt exactly? I read in a book how the Spanish brought some Africans to the coast of SC in the 1500s, shyt popped off and the Africans got away and lived among the Native Americans. But that's all I've found so far on the history.I'm starting to think we might be the real Native Americans forreal like those Moorish Science Temple cats preach
