what do you mean by Creole
American-Liberians=/=African-American
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What about him? Lol Liberias first President was JJ roberts a black man born in virginia.
There is nothing to argue
xoxodede
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Honestly, it's can be confusing.
Cause two groups of people were grouped in one category.
1. Free People of Color - were French Creoles - mulattos
2. Then Free People of Color - these were Black people who gained their freedom.
Usually in town like New Orleans, SC, Virginia - a lot of the people labeled as Free People of Color were not Black.
It was not a large population of Free Black people who were once enslaved in the U.S..
xoxodede
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i know about free people of color but i wanted to know what you meant in this context since creole means different things in different countries
xoxodede
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Clearly "Free Person of Color" aka Mulatto -- which in those times --- they often were the mixed children of their owners -- and were freed.
Roberts was born free in Norfolk, Virginia, the second-oldest of seven children. His father was said to be a planter of Welsh origin. Joseph's mother Amelia, described as a mulatto who was quite fair, was the planter's slave mistress or concubine. He freed Amelia and her children when she was still young.[1] Amelia gave all of her children but one the middle name of Jenkins, which suggests that may have been the name of their biological father.
Once free, Amelia married James Roberts, a free black. Roberts gave her children his surname and raised them as his own. Roberts owned a boating business on the James River. By the time of his death, he had acquired substantial wealth for an African-American of those times.[2]
Joseph Roberts and his siblings by the planter, were estimated to be seven-eighths European ancestry. As the Liberian historian Abayomi Karnga noted in 1926, "He was not really black; he was an octoroon and could have easily passed for a white man."[3] As a boy, Joseph began to work in his stepfather's business, handling goods on a flatboat that transported materials from Petersburg to Norfolk on the James River.[4] The family moved to Petersburg, which was an industrial city. Shortly after relocating, his stepfather James Roberts died. Joseph continued to work in his family's business, but also served as an apprentice in a barber shop. The owner of the barber shop, William Colson, was also a minister and one of Virginia's best-educated black residents. He gave Roberts access to his private library, which provided much of the youth's early education.[2]
You're right, because Liberia also had a President that was born in the British West Indies, who was actually BLACK and not a mullato.
Arthur Barclay - Wikipedia
Crayola Coyote
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American Liberian checking in ... idk much about Liberia history only about what happend to the president that was cleaning up the country. My folks told me Israel soldiers and Americans overthrew the government and cut the president ear off and torture him. People were selling the videos. My cousin told me he was ecasping war and saw a bunch of wild shyt. Nothing but carnage. I'm good. 
Crayola Coyote
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Doe was the one they cut his ear off?imma be honest, Liberian history pre 1960s has never interest me.
It's not like we had any advance civilization or ancient ruins for it to gather my attention. I only know of Liberian history from Samuel K Doe planning the coupe til now. Anything before that hasn't grabbed my attention.
So heres the thing I dont care what label you want to give these folks or whatever at the end of the day Black people from the Western World came and estanlished what we know as liberia today. Anything else got nothing to do with me.
xoxodede
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Ok - for instance JJ Jenkins: he is classified as "Free Person of Color" because he fell into this category:
In some cases, planters or other relatively wealthy white men took slave women or free women of mixed race as concubines. If the woman was enslaved, the man might free her and their children, adding to the class of free people of color. Such planters often sent their mixed-race sons to France for education and service in the military, and sometimes settled property on them.
W.E. Dubois is Creole due to him having French Creole Ancestry:
was born three years after the American Civil War on February 23, 1868, in Great Barrington, Massachussetts.
His mother was Mary Sylvania Burghardt, a short and attractive brown-skinned woman who worked most of her life as a domestic in Great Barrington.His mulatto father, Alfred Du Bois, was a descendant of French Huguenot ancestry from Haiti and a barber by trade.
Du Bois knew much less about his father, although he was able trace his father's ancestry to a seventeenth-century white French Huguenot farmer residing in the west Indies named Chretien Du Bois. Further down the lineage was Du bois's grandfather, the short, stern Alexander Du Bois, who was light enough to pass for white but chose a black identity instead.Du Bois was prolific as a scholar, author, editor, writer, and social activist. He combined his scholarship with organized social protest from 1896 to 1963, producing an enormous amount of written work in history and sociology as well as critical pieces about current events. His amazing ability to utilize the unique insights of so many disciplines gave his work depth and beauty. French Creole | Homer Plessy
His mother was Mary Sylvania Burghardt, a short and attractive brown-skinned woman who worked most of her life as a domestic in Great Barrington.His mulatto father, Alfred Du Bois, was a descendant of French Huguenot ancestry from Haiti and a barber by trade.
Du Bois knew much less about his father, although he was able trace his father's ancestry to a seventeenth-century white French Huguenot farmer residing in the west Indies named Chretien Du Bois. Further down the lineage was Du bois's grandfather, the short, stern Alexander Du Bois, who was light enough to pass for white but chose a black identity instead.Du Bois was prolific as a scholar, author, editor, writer, and social activist. He combined his scholarship with organized social protest from 1896 to 1963, producing an enormous amount of written work in history and sociology as well as critical pieces about current events. His amazing ability to utilize the unique insights of so many disciplines gave his work depth and beauty. French Creole | Homer Plessy
ok.
Another Liberian president of Caribbean ancestry.
Edwin James Barclay
Edwin James Barclay
