African American is the tribe but Africa is home

[Claudex]

I just want people to give us our props as AA. Don’t act like your style don’t come from us.

Part of our style is influenced by y'all, speaking as an Angolan at least. Which is natural since the US has invested so much in transmitting it's culture to the world through movies/music videos/series/soap operas. No way we weren't gonna see you guys on our TV's and not connect with and try to emulate y'all, specially because the energy is not so different.

I say influenced because the emulation isn't 100%, it can't and won't ever be. We got our own culture to uphold and fight for.

 

[HopeKillCure]

And the africans sold my ancestors to be beat and raped, so they could get rum and commercial goods. SMH.
So why should I learn language of those who contributed to that or the language of people I'm not even attached to at all, but who just have the same skin tone?

No you white for sure.
You really are not african, you are a white boy. You dont have anything in common with africans. You are a dark white man for sure. I agree about skin tone, I would never argue that yall nikkahs are black, you sound like a hispanic. I believe you are a European too. Nothing black at all about you except maybe you have a natural tan.


nikkahs literally have 1000s of african ancestors. I mean, think how long the world has existed...Think about how many great grandparents you had. Home many africans had to exist as your ancestor, just for you to be able to reach the point where cacs were able to strip you of your language and bring your poor ancestors here.

Literally 1,000s more african ancestors in your blood than anything else, but the second yall get an openning to claim you are like your white rapist, hhahaha yall white boys will say fukk africa and jump on european dikk. Ole cac dikk riders

 

[Azul]

All of this shyt is broke nikka talk to be honest. Once you have a family and bread, your insecurity wont be set up to engage in this fukk shyt.

Had to empathize this.

Nothing wrong with saying that you're proud to be African-American/black, but I've noticed that the ones who go SUPER hard on this "Africans/West Indians are the enemy" wave are broke and bitter about their circumstances.

They need a scapegoat.

 

[David_TheMan]

No you white for sure.
You really are not african, you are a white boy. You dont have anything in common with africans. You are a dark white man for sure. I agree about skin tone, I would never argue that yall nikkahs are black, you sound like a hispanic. I believe you are a European too. Nothing black at all about you except maybe you have a natural tan.


nikkahs literally have 1000s of african ancestors. I mean, think how long the world has existed...Think about how many great grandparents you had. Home many africans had to exist as your ancestor, just for you to be able to reach the point where cacs were able to strip you of your language and bring your poor ancestors here.

Literally 1,000s more african ancestors in your blood than anything else, but the second yall get an openning to claim you are like your white rapist, hhahaha yall white boys will say fukk africa and jump on european dikk. Ole cac dikk riders

I'm not white and I've proven that.
That said, its funny how little you have been able to logically contribute to the conversation.
Your statement makes no sense with regard to what I wrote by the way.

 

[get these nets]

It’s not that deep it just shows how fickle people are depending which way the narrative is flowing


Look at the Black Panther MCU thread everyone was all Wakanda Forever
Realised a movie doesn’t change real life

“We not Africaaannns”

Look how much Caribbean culture is infused into the music, major artists using the slang especially Jamaican, and references in their music when it’s cool but when it comes to economics

“We not Islanderrrrs yall came here we were brought here”

Stand firm in your knowledge and don’t shake

just in this very thread......we see examples of this juelzing

When Kool Herc(born in JA), Grandmaster Flash(born here of Barbadian parents) and Bambatta(Jamaican American), are brought up as major pioneers in hip hop......dude wrote

Them dudes is essentially American..

Bu bu bu but recently he wrote this

I ain't here for shenanigans. I just asked a simple question. Why the fukk do you infest message boards that are centered around AA culture and events but always talkin down on nikkas. I guarantee there is a message board out there dedicated to every one of you nikkas. Why come to one centered around african Americans?
Haitians is cb4 too. I don't give a fukk how many episodes of Good Times you have recorded on betamax nikka you'll never be us.

So, Herc,Flash, and Bam are essentially Americans, but I should stop infesting a message board centered around AA and yada yada yada yada and no matter how many episodes of Good Times I watch I can never be one. .

 

[InkosiYe]

just in this very thread......we see examples of this juelzing

When Kool Herc(born in JA), Grandmaster Flash(born here of Barbadian parents) and Bambatta(Jamaican American), are brought up as major pioneers in hip hop......dude wrote



Bu bu bu but recently he wrote this



So, Herc,Flash, and Bam are essentially Americans, but I should stop infesting a message board centered around AA and yada yada yada yada and no matter how many episodes of Good Times I watch I can never be one. .

Dude is angry and arguing out of emotion, not logic. They’re essentially American when it’s convenient for his argument, but when it’s not they’re outsiders trying to be like him. Completely hypocritical statements, but he’ll keep banging on that drum.

 

[get these nets]

.......

 

[HopeKillCure]

I'm not white and I've proven that.
That said, its funny how little you have been able to logically contribute to the conversation.
Your statement makes no sense with regard to what I wrote by the way.

You nikkahs don't understand simple dna and ancestry at all. It is the same as the cac here who said he genetically has more In common with europeans than africans.

You would have had like 30 generations of ancestors in the last 1000 years alone. Go back further and those numbers become even more complex and larger.

The compounding is why all humans share like 95% of their dna, at some point we are all related to each other and spawned from the african. You, if you claim to be black and DOS, have a larger relationship with the african than any other group of people, that is because your most recent ancestors are africans for mutiple generations, producing an incredible amount of african people to eventually get to your closest relatives (going back 2 or 4 generations).

You white boys are arguing that because something like 3 or 4 of your 1,025 ancestors over 10 generations may have been non-black rapists, instead of africans recently from the continent of Africa, it means you are somehow not African.

Europeans make this argument, and it is more plausible because they may (depending on their country's location and interactions with africans in history) actually have 1 or 2 ancestors out of 1,024 who are directly in relation to someone from the african continent in 10 generations.

You nikkahs are arguing the opposite. You are arguing that an insignificant amount of your ancestors over the last 10 generations being removed from the african continent is enough to eliminate the other 1000 from your identity.

Dumb nikkah shyte. Lot of yall lost and emotionally unstable about how you are.

...Or you are just White, like I think some of you are, spiritually and mentally. Just white people with natural tans.


What is Pedigree Collapse? - Family Tree

 

[get these nets]

Dude is angry and arguing out of emotion, not logic. They’re essentially American when it’s convenient for his argument, but when it’s not they’re outsiders trying to be like him. Completely hypocritical statements, but he’ll keep banging on that drum.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt that hearing DOUGIE FRESH say some of these things on camera, or hearing pre "hip hop" djs say these things on camera would make him acknowledge the influence.
I figured, if I wrote something he could just dismiss it as "you don't know what you're talking about", but if he's not going to acknowledge the comments from the ones who were THERE, you can tell that it's a dude that can't concede even obvious points.



oh, and I wrote repeatedly that hip hop is an American artform, created here..by AA,Caribbean and PR kids as a combination of elements from the diaspora.The PIONEERS say this, the video footage from that era showing the artists performing and the crowds in audience confirms this, the demographics from the neighborhoods were it was formed confirm this, the album/record covers confirm this, the early music videos and hip hop documentaries and movies confirms this.

But anybody who knows better than these sources, please correct me.

 

[Pit Bull]

Again

What did they add from the caibbean other than their parents immigrant status?

 

[Worthless Loser]

trolls

They are not trolls. They are idiots. Calling them trolls excuse their ignorance. They need to be called out every time.

 

[David_TheMan]

You nikkahs don't understand simple dna and ancestry at all. It is the same as the cac here who said he genetically has more In common with europeans than africans.

You would have had like 30 generations of ancestors in the last 1000 years alone. Go back further and those numbers become even more complex and larger.

The compounding is why all humans share like 95% of their dna, at some point we are all related to each other and spawned from the african. You, if you claim to be black and DOS, have a larger relationship with the african than any other group of people, that is because your most recent ancestors are africans for mutiple generations, producing an incredible amount of african people to eventually get to your closest relatives (going back 2 or 4 generations).

You white boys are arguing that because something like because 3 or 4 of your 1,025 ancestors over 10 generations may have been non-black rapists, instead of africans recently from the continent of Africa, it means you are somehow not African.

Europeans make this argument, and it is more plausible because they may (depending on their countries location and interactions with africans in history) actually have 1 or 2 ancestors out of 1,024 who are directly in relation to someone from the african continent in 10 generations.

You nikkahs are arguing the opposite. You are arguing that an insignificant amount of your ancestors over the last 10 generations being removed from the african continent is enough to eliminate the other 1000 from your identity.

Dumb nikkah shyte. Lot of yall lost and emotionally unstable about how you are.

...Or you are just White, like I think some of you are, spiritually and mentally. Just white people with natural tans.


What is Pedigree Collapse? - Family Tree

Breh, stop smoking crack before you get on here and post.
Try to keep your comments to me, focused on what I write by the way.

 

[get these nets]

CULTURAL INFLUENCE AND EXCHANGE

one of the founders of Afrobeat speaks of origin of the genre and the influence of James Brown

 

[Pit Bull]

You nikkas talkin some mid-80s Dougie Fresh shyt.

I'm talkin 70-81 shyt.

 

[HopeKillCure]

Breh, stop smoking crack before you get on here and post.
Try to keep your comments to me, focused on what I write by the way.

I kept them to you. You are a white idiot. White in mind or just plain old cac.

Your reasoning for why you are not african shows a lack of understanding basic ancestry.