African American is the tribe but Africa is home

[Pit Bull]

Obviously hip-hop is heavily influenced by african american history but I dont think hip-hop could have been born in any place in the world except NYC because its such a melting pot between all kinds of cultures from all over the world. If hip-hop wasnt influenced by carribeans why didnt it start in Alabama or somewhere in the south where all the blacks are african americans?

Disclaimer: I didnt read the thread the thread, I just saw some people fighting about hip hop

I have no doubt in my mind that a genre similar to rap would have developed either in the south, west, or mid west eventually.

The melting pot had nothing to do with it when rapping was an African American thing that we had been doing for over 100 years. James Brown was talkin about I can dig rapping in 72 and he waswasn't from melting pot he was a country nikka. Hell Jamaican nikkas learned how to toast and rap from us.

Pigment Markham was from the Carolinas and had a whole rap song in the 60s, syncopated rapping at that. You nikkas obviously know nothing about African American history or culture.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Didn't rapping get its influence from toasting which is from Jamaica?

no, see post

Does the large Caribbean presence in NYC's Hip Hop scene explain the disconnect with other regions?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

that video is full of bs. Listen to real OG pioneers tell you why

 

[HopeKillCure]

if you go to africa no one gives a sh*t if you from america they just view you as a brother.

It's unfortunate some uppity ass african negros that come over to north america distort some of our views

Exactly.

no one cares breh, because we all look like them. We haven't been gone long enough to be "removed" from them. Hell, lots of the asians, native indians, and europeans have been gone for much, much longer and still look like africans and engage in african rooted activities.

I dont get their lazy logic.
If a indian guy moved to Australia and had children with nothing but other indian people from south or west india for 3 or 4 generations, nobody would say, "hey this guy is totally removed from India, he is just not indian at all anymore"

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Future’s parents are Haitian breh

But this is my point exactly, people you don’t even know are from the islands or Africa are from there. The cultures have been blended and everybody is out here going through the same shyt.

no he's not..

 

[Blackout]

It needs to be Africans all over the diaspora united vs the c00ns.

That’s what I follow and it’s the best route for us all to progress.

 

[Black Haven]

no he's not..

Lol that documentary is so inconsistent. Here you have krs one who is Jamaican giving you the origin of mc battling which is " the dozens game" which came from AAs
cmon man the signs are all right there.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Obviously hip-hop is heavily influenced by african american history but I dont think hip-hop could have been born in any place in the world except NYC because its such a melting pot between all kinds of cultures from all over the world. If hip-hop wasnt influenced by carribeans why didnt it start in Alabama or somewhere in the south where all the blacks are african americans?

Disclaimer: I didnt read the thread the thread, I just saw some people fighting about hip hop

rapping was already being done in the south













and the music (breakbeats) were southern







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but south didn't have the dj'ing culture of the ny discos

 

[get these nets]

Obviously hip-hop is heavily influenced by african american history but I dont think hip-hop could have been born in any place in the world except NYC because its such a melting pot between all kinds of cultures from all over the world. If hip-hop wasnt influenced by carribeans why didnt it start in Alabama or somewhere in the south where all the blacks are african americans?

Disclaimer: I didnt read the thread the thread, I just saw some people fighting about hip hop

Agree. There were other American cities with high Caribbean populations......but hip hop didn't form there. Places with lot of Puerto Ricans but hip hop didn't start there. Other big cities with high % of AAs, but hip hop didn't form in those places.

Unique set of circumstances that existed in 1970s New York..Convergence of a lot of factors, and cultures.

 

[Karb]

No you white for sure.
You really are not african, you are a white boy. You dont have anything in common with africans. You are a dark white man for sure. I agree about skin tone, I would never argue that yall nikkahs are black, you sound like a hispanic. I believe you are a European too. Nothing black at all about you except maybe you have a natural tan.


nikkahs literally have 1000s of african ancestors. I mean, think how long the world has existed...Think about how many great grandparents you had. Home many africans had to exist as your ancestor, just for you to be able to reach the point where cacs were able to strip you of your language and bring your poor ancestors here.

Literally 1,000s more african ancestors in your blood than anything else, but the second yall get an openning to claim you are like your white rapist, hhahaha yall white boys will say fukk africa and jump on european dikk. Ole cac dikk riders

This forum is full of shortsighted imbeciles. Hope this ignorance doesn't gain traction in the real world.

 

[get these nets]

...at roughly 29:30 minute mark there is a 5 minute segment about King Charles...

here is the full segment about King Charles from the documentary

cued

 

[Karb]

No you are not. The fact you dangerously say this shows you have no basic understanding of ancestry. You are the least removed people from africans. Look at your ancestry. How many generations do you think youve been in america?

When did you think you were legally allowed to marry interracially and have non-african children of your choosing free of white rape in america??

You are being lazy and simplistic

These nikkas still got blood relatives in West Africa, talking about they're far removed

 

[Karb]

How is he wrong? Black Americans are 400+ years removed from the continent. There is no real connection there besides skin color.

You can't force a man to identify with something he doesn't want to. It comes across as weird and insecure.

400+ is when slavery started

Some of these brehs ancestors were brought in the 1800's

Didn't that chick @xoxodede locate some African relatives when she took her ancestry test?

Maybe I'm confusing her with someone else but there's at least one AA here who this has happened to.

Far removed

 

[get these nets]

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Here is an interview with Red Alert


he mentions the Bronx scene and the downtown....(Brooklyn) scenes as though they were occurring simultaneously....
He mentions attending Herc parties AND Grandmaster Flowers parties at the same time


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Here is the end of the Founding Fathers documentary where DJ Hollywood among others calls BS on Herc,Flash and Bam holding title of godfathers of hip hop

cued up

 

[Pit Bull]

400+ is when slavery started

Some of these brehs ancestors were brought in the 1800's

Didn't that chick @xoxodede locate some African relatives when she took her ancestry test?

Maybe I'm confusing her with someone else but there's at least one AA here who this has happened to.

Far removed

I mean your fellow African breh @idi_Amin never misses a chance to tell us we have more in common with Europeans than Africans.

No smoke for him?

They tell us we are the least African of the diaspora. Seems far removed to me, no?