African American is the tribe but Africa is home

[IcemanCometh]

The first rapper was from north carolina. Flowers, and King Mario both predate Herc and the trio. The three Carib founders is just another BS narrative most likely started by caribs. nikkas didn't rap on Herc shyt, they rapped on flowers before him. Sorry you've been fed false history, the truth is out.

 

[Pit Bull]

nikka, non AADOS people were making some of the greatest hip hop music of all time. From the inception all the way down to now. Period. Non AADOS black folks sampled disco, funk and soul and helped create an entirely NEW GENRE. Thus they helped create hip hop. Period. And helped keep it going as well. EVERYBODY had a hand in it, stop acting like everybody else is on some culture vulture shyt.





See above. And how can they not be at the forefront when a caribbean dude is widely accepted as creating hip hop? And if they blended in so what? I've been saying that this whole thread. nikkas from all backgrounds have been blending in and sharing the same struggles in the same neighborhoods and ALL helping impact the culture. Y'all are the ones acting like nobody contributed anything worth a damn besides AADOS.

Widely accepted and facts are two different things, my G.

I mean I'm giving you a chance to cite which elements of Hip Hop were introduced to AAs by way of the caribbean?

 

[get these nets]

See y'all gon have to break that one down for me, pop

When I listen to Hip Hop, even the earliest stages of Hip Hop all I hear is African American music. Explain to me exactly which elements of Hip Hop music are from the Caribbean. African Americans have been rapping for over 100 years. Started doing it over Disco, Funk, and Soul instrumentals. All three genres are African American. I fail to see any other black culture being represented in the foundation.

I been asking Caribbean nikkas this all day and all I been getting is What are these Caribbean elements. Y'all continuously try to write us out of our own culture and history and then wonder why you receive so much push back. That's the type of shyt that get computers putin.

Them dudes is essentially American. If I move to Jamaica with my AA wife and give birth to a son that later combines reggae style lyrics over danchall beats and he starts to claim that the genre is African American culture and has no roots in Jamaica then you nikkas would lose your minds and my child would be in the wrong.

OK....the smilies come out. Do you want a link to hip hop history book from an AA music or cultural critic to explain IN DETAIL how the backgrounds of Herc,Flash, and Bambatta contributed to helping form what became known as hip hop?
How about hearing it from the pioneers who predated these 3?

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And fellas, let's not move the goal posts or erect straw ones. Hip hop is an American artform.I said that it is the most visible examples of the different Black cultures exchanging & blending....and that the 3 men widely acknowledged as molding it together were of Caribbean. background.[/QUOTE]

 

[InkosiYe]

Widely accepted and facts are two different things, my G.

I mean I'm giving you a chance to cite which elements of Hip Hop were introduced to AAs by way of the caribbean?

 

[Pit Bull]

OK....the smilies come out. Do you want a link to hip hop history book from an AA music or cultural critic to explain IN DETAIL how the backgrounds of Herc,Flash, and Bambatta contributed to helping form what became known as hip hop?
How about hearing it from the pioneers who predated these 3?

..



And fellas, let's not move the goal posts or erect straw ones. Hip hop is an American artform.I said that it is the most visible examples of the different Black cultures exchanging & blending....and that the 3 men widely acknowledged as molding it together were of Caribbean. background.

[/QUOTE]

Again

what did these nikkas bring from the caribbean that they added to Hip Hop that African Americans weren't already doing?

 

[Pit Bull]

They got Future in the thumbnail like he not African American

I can only imagine the running through this one.

0:11 in and these nikkas already said there would be no Hip Hop without caribbean people

That video disrespectful as shyt to African Americans. I can't even finish this bullshyt.

 

[InkosiYe]

They got Future in the thumbnail like he not African American

I can only imagine the running through this one.

0:11 in and these nikkas already said there would be no Hip Hop without caribbean people

Future’s parents are Haitian breh

But this is my point exactly, people you don’t even know are from the islands or Africa are from there. The cultures have been blended and everybody is out here going through the same shyt.

 

[Gold]

@The Wave
@Nemesis
@Theraflu

Cool African brehs

Hold this rep.

 

[Pit Bull]

Future’s parents are Haitian breh

But this is my point exactly, people you don’t even know are from the islands or Africa are from there. The cultures have been blended and everybody is out here going through the same shyt.

Future shot that lie down in his Breakfast Club interview. He is African American. He was just running around with Hatians.

That video is the biggest crock of bullshyt I've ever seen in my life. They made it seem like Ricans had a bigger role in the creation of Hip Hop than AAs.

This is AA music. I don't hear no caribbean nowhere.

 

[Biscayne]

Pan Africanism is only a "joke" on a macro level. On a micro level, those who are in concert with each other will continue to do so and those who aren't will continue not to. I understand Yvette when she says AA's need to look out for self interest and not get overly excited to seek African affirmation. But at the same time, there are AA's and black Foreigners who marry, date, and procreate with each other every single day in this nation. There are AA's and black foreigners who are in business together and live in the same closed quarters. This very website is "Pan Africanism" on a micro level. Many supporters aren't even AA gang, but brooklyznown is AA(to my knowledge). I don't see the point in Black foreigners and AA's sshaming members of their tribe into embracing pan africanism, but to the same token, I don't see the point in anti pan african AA's or black foreigners trying to desuade members of their tribe embracing Pan African interest for a common and mutual goal. Whether that goal be business, love/marriage, freedom, legislation, etc. In other words, ride with those who ride with you, no matter their tribe. It's that simple. As a member of West Indian heritage gang I fully support AA gang in their self interest. I was raised in America.....The South is really all I know.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

A bit offtopic but Zoe Saldana is Haitian????

Saldana was born in Passaic, New Jersey.[5][6] Her father, Aridio Saldaña,[7] was Dominican, while her mother, Asalia Nazario, is Puerto Rican.[8] Saldana also has Lebanese and Haitian roots.[9][10] With regard to her racial identity, Saldana stated, "There's no one way to be black. I'm black the way I know how to be."[11] She spent the majority of her early childhood growing up in Jackson Heights, New York. She was raised bilingual, speaking English and Spanish. She has two sisters, Cisely and Mariel.[3] Their father died in a car crash when Zoe was 9 years old, and their mother subsequently moved with the children to the Dominican Republic.[3]

I'm claiming.

 

[InkosiYe]

Pan Africanism is only a "joke" on a macro level. On a micro level, those who are in concert with each other will continue to do so and those who aren't will continue not to. I understand Yvette when she says AA's need to look out for self interest and not get overly excited to seek African affirmation. But at the same time, there are AA's and black Foreigners who marry, date, and procreate with each other every single day in this nation. There are AA's and black foreigners who are in business together and live in the same closed quarters. This very website is "Pan Africanism" on a micro level. Many supporters aren't even AA gang, but brooklyznown is AA(to my knowledge). I don't see the point in Black foreigners and AA's sshaming members of their tribe into embracing pan africanism, but to the same token, I don't see the point in anti pan african AA's or black foreigners trying to desuade members of their tribe embracing Pan African interest for a common and mutual goal. Whether that goal be business, love/marriage, freedom, legislation, etc. In other words, ride with those who ride with you, no matter their tribe. It's that simple. As a member of West Indian heritage gang I fully support AA gang in their self interest. I was raised in America.....The South is really all I know.

Yeah that’s basically all there is to it. If you rock with me I rock with you, and if not it’s whatever.


Respect to everybody that embraces the differences in their specific heritage, whether it be AA, Caribbean, or African, but still rocks with the rest of the gang as well

fukk the rest of y’all crabs

 

[Pit Bull]

Future’s parents are Haitian breh

But this is my point exactly, people you don’t even know are from the islands or Africa are from there. The cultures have been blended and everybody is out here going through the same shyt.

A response to the video you posted

 

[get these nets]

="Big Lysol, post: 30432156, member: 29790"]

Again what did these bring from the caribbean that they added to Hip Hop that African Americans weren't already doing?

Smilies again...Lot of the neighborhoods mentioned were and are Caribbean enclaves....and at roughly 29:30 minute mark there is a 5 minute segment about King Charles...how about you watch that segment ?
And remember, at the time covered in this doc. hip hop hadn't formed as a genre yet.
It formed later....but during this segment it was dj's rocking jams and parties..

 

[Kasgoinjail]

It’s not that deep it just shows how fickle people are depending which way the narrative is flowing


Look at the Black Panther MCU thread everyone was all Wakanda Forever
Realised a movie doesn’t change real life

“We not Africaaannns”

Look how much Caribbean culture is infused into the music, major artists using the slang especially Jamaican, and references in their music when it’s cool but when it comes to economics

“We not Islanderrrrs yall came here we were brought here”

Stand firm in your knowledge and don’t shake