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Bleed The Freak

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Facts and honestly speaking the fact they are now responsible for literally getting woman killed because of the over turning of Roe and packing the court with conservative judges due to the election of Trump and exposing how awful the gop is as a party they prob won’t see the presidency or control of Congress for the next two decades or so because voters will keep being reminded how the gop gave us Trump and ban roe and got women killed off their policies…

I mean literally think real hard off the top of your head to name a concrete piece of legislation they've accomplished.

Maybe that bullshyt criminal justice act reform (gtfoh) but that shyt was started under Obama and that bad boy hasn't done shyt.

You literally cannot name a single definitive piece of legislation they have passed that made a huge impact in a positive manner. Every single POS legislation they want is packed with religious bigoted undertones.

Even shyt that should be layup they won't support (Infrastructure, chips act). May their ending on Tuesday be painful and long lasting
 

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No, we were right. It was a very stupid thing for a president to say on the eve of an election.

It would have only come from the brain of a decrepit old man. To act like it’s some brilliant political strategy is insane.

Against a normal opponent it's a death sentence. After that shyt show in MSG it was Tuesday.
 

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I know you brehs think polls are the end all be all, but settle down. :heh: A single poll in Iowa means just that. It’s a single poll in Iowa.
That’s not entirely true

Everyone who’s in the industry and politics waits for her polling to come out every year right before the election

She’s been eerily accurate every year including being the first pollster in 16’ to catch Trumps momentum

People were saying if Trump is up less then 9 or 10 in Iowa he’s in huge trouble she’d have to be off about 15 points for this not to be horrible for Trump when every year she’s been almost spot on

Does this guarantee a win? Of course not

But is it possibly a very good sign for the rust belt and where she is with white women? for sure
 

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That’s not entirely true

Everyone who’s in the industry and politics waits for this polling to come out every year

She’s been eerily accurate every year including being the first pollster in 16’ to catch Trumps momentum

People were saying if Trump is up less then 9 or 10 in Iowa he’s in huge trouble she’d have to be off about 15 points for this not to be horrible for Trump when every year she’s been almost spot on

Does this guarantee a win? Of course not

But is it possibly a very good sign for the rust belt and where she is with white women? for sure

What makes THIS Iowa poll so impactful? I get the numbers are good but it seems there’s a lot of stock in this one specifically. Why is that?
 

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That’s not entirely true

Everyone who’s in the industry and politics waits for her polling to come out every year right before the election

She’s been eerily accurate every year including being the first pollster in 16’ to catch Trumps momentum

People were saying if Trump is up less then 9 or 10 in Iowa he’s in huge trouble she’d have to be off about 15 points for this not to be horrible for Trump when every year she’s been almost spot on

Does this guarantee a win? Of course not

But is it possibly a very good sign for the rust belt and where she is with white women? for sure
I hope this woman is the goddamn Oracle. :blessed:

Nothing more would make me happier than a huge number of the whites coming to their senses.
 

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What makes THIS Iowa poll so impactful? I get the numbers are good but it seems there’s a lot of stock in this one specifically. Why is that?

i can’t really answer that as good as maybe others here I havent been following polling that closely till this year I just read up on her the last few days

But from what I read it sounds like she for whatever reason just has an uncanny ability to read her state better then anyone else

And like I said if Trump is less then 9 or 10 up in Iowa he’s fukked so he has to hope she’s way more off then she’s ever been
 

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I would also say about Selzer if you are looking for reasons to believe. she’s the only non repulbican bias pollster who doesn’t have this race 50/50

So you can look at it like everyone else is just scared to go out on a limb and be wrong and they’ve even admitted being scared to beleive pro Kamala polling they’ve done and that Selzer is the only one who is just putting down what she’s actually seeing with her own eyes unlike everyone else
 

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What makes THIS Iowa poll so impactful? I get the numbers are good but it seems there’s a lot of stock in this one specifically. Why is that?

At this point the most pollsters are just saying "Statistical tie :yeshrug: " so anything contrary to that is automatically going to get attention.
 

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What makes THIS Iowa poll so impactful? I get the numbers are good but it seems there’s a lot of stock in this one specifically. Why is that?
Ann Selzer is the gold standard pollster of Iowa. She is one of the best in the business.

She picked up late movement toward Trump in 2016. In 2020, her final poll of Iowa showed Trump and Joni Ernst firmly ahead when other pollsters had the Dems in striking distance.

She's pretty accurate with the final results.



Kamala isn't winning Iowa but the poll is consistent with her doing better with white suburban women... and white women overall across the Midwest.

So if she's off by 5%...Trump is winning Iowa by only 2%? That's horrible for him.
 

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Ann Selzer is the gold standard pollster of Iowa. She is one of the best in the business.

She picked up late movement toward Trump in 2016. In 2020, her final poll of Iowa showed Trump and Joni Ernst firmly ahead when other pollsters had the Dems in striking distance.

She's pretty accurate with the final results.



Kamala isn't winning Iowa but the poll is consistent with her doing better with white suburban women... and white women overall across the country.

looking at that twitter post. she had 3 straight as accurate as can be and then a miss in 2018. then 3 straight as accurate as can be and then a ____ in 2024. hopefully it doesn't follow the previous pattern and is a hit. either way if it's trump +3 then that's good news for the blue wall.
 
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