2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

[re'up]

You said Vance talked policy. What policy did Vance talk about?

Anything having to do with manufacturing and protecting American jobs. Maybe policy is a semantical dumb word here. but he can articulate himself very very well on those subjects. Same as Sherrod Brown.

 

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[re'up]

Wish Walz and Harris would hit or tap the media too. At the debate.

Diane or whatever, you made 15 million dollars last year, in all fairness, I don't really think these questions are what Americans want to talk about. They want to get their savings accounts up. Put the family through college. Buy an investment property.

 

[the cac mamba]

100K or so dead people would like to disagree.

this was not a specific answer about what would have been done differently

 

[Hood Critic]

 

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[Sghost597]

100K or so dead people would like to disagree.

I still get nightmares from the one day where like 35 patients died in one shift.

 

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but this is an objective fact. who wanted to keep printing money, and paying people not to work? who wanted to open the economy?

She’s getting annoying…but it’s a fair argument.

Which is why the focus should be on Biden’s response that ended the pandemic and more on Trumps lack of leadership with obsessing over outrage, blame, and misinformation that showed he lacked leadership qualities during a national pandemic.

 

[Outlaw]

complete bullshyt. absolutely nothing would have been different about the country's response with hillary as president

evidence; you can't actually name what would have gone differently

There you go sucking republican dikk again. Why did America handle it worse than Europe, Canada and Oceania?

Trump’s Policies Resulted In The Unnecessary Deaths Of Hundreds Of Thousands Of Americans: Lancet Report

The Trump Administration's cuts to global health programs and public health agencies greatly hindered the country’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic, the report asserts.

www.forbes.com

 

[CrimsonTider]

To a certain voter he talks their language. And he was clearly told to tone it down and sell the softer side JD Vance.

Walz should have gave a better answer on the experts question. He should have said "look some of those guys are full of shyt....you know it and I know it...I didn't go to Yale....

So no policy?

 

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His same focus group had claimed Trump won in the second debate in 2020

Proving that most of the time who won the debate means nothing

 

[Hood Critic]

this was not a specific answer about what would have been done differently

• Washington Post, 3/20/20: "Trump's insistence on the contrary seemed to rest in his relationship with China's President Xi Jingping, whom Trump believed was providing him with reliable information about how the virus was spreading in China, despite reports from intelligence agencies that Chinese officials were not being candid about the true scale of the crisis."
• New York Times, 4/11/2020: "Throughout January, as Mr. Trump repeatedly played down the seriousness of the virus and focused on other issues, an array of figures inside his government — from top White House advisers to experts deep in the cabinet departments and intelligence agencies — identified the threat, sounded alarms and made clear the need for aggressive action."
• POLITICO, 4/15/20: "Trump, however, echoed many of those same assurances regarding China and its response to the virus throughout January and February, as the unique coronavirus began to infiltrate countries around the world. Just days before the U.S. recorded its first death from Covid-19, Trump touted China's government for its transparency and hard work to defeat the coronavirus that causes the illness."

As COVID-19 swept across our country, Trump bungled testing, leaving us with persistent shortages and delays even now. And, Trump inexcusably failed to get protective equipment to the heroes on the front lines of this fight, opting to side with corporate lobbyists instead of heeding Vice President Biden's call to fully invoke the Defense Production Act to mobilize our economy to fight the virus.

• New York Times, 3/28/20: "As the deadly virus spread from China with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels."
• New York Times, 7/6/20: "In recent weeks, as cases have surged in many states, the demand for testing has soared, surpassing capacity and creating a new testing crisis."
• Washington Post, 7/8/20: "Health-care workers on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic are encountering shortages of masks, gowns, face shields and gloves — a frustrating recurrence of a struggle that haunted the first months of the crisis."
• CNN, 7/14/20: "Trump administration's delayed use of 1950s law leads to critical supplies shortages"

For starters

 

[Sghost597]

Trump voters always be mad ugly.

 

[re'up]

JD Vance has always had the ability to switch on and off the outrageousness, to sound reasonable, to paper over a bitter and hollow core with a velvet patter learned at Yale and in countless television appearances. That was the version of himself that he presented to a national audience at the debate on Tuesday night, and it was a world away from how he sounds when campaigning in front of MAGA crowds.

If you saw only this performance, you wouldn’t know it was the same candidate who has viciously demonized Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio; who has railed against those American women who have chosen not to have children; who said as recently as Saturday that the mass deportation that he and Donald Trump have planned is based on Christian principles.

Opinion | Walz Failed to Expose Vance’s Debate Masquerade

Harris’s running mate missed multiple opportunities to demonstrate how Trump and his running mate are unfit for office.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Sghost597]