115th Congress defunds ACA: Senate: 51-48 House:227-198; Executive Order signed 1/20

[tru_m.a.c]

Trump signs executive order on Obamacare; enacts regulatory freeze

As promised, President Trump got to work on Day 1, spending some time in the Oval Office in between the inaugural parade and a trio of formal balls.

Trump signed an executive order Friday night directing government agencies to "ease the burdens" of Obamacare while the new administration and Congress work toward repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act.

White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus presented Trump with the order, which he described as: "An executive order minimizing the economic burden of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act pending repeal."

It's not clear what kind of relief the executive order envisions.

Trump also signed paperwork authorizing the elevation of two new Cabinet secretaries. The Senate voted this evening to confirm Trump's nominees for defense secretary, James Mattis, and homeland security secretary, John Kelly.

Trump Signs Executive Order To 'Ease The Burdens Of Obamacare'

 

[Llcoolbay]

Maybe people(cacs) will wake up some day before its too late. History says thats a no but theres a first time for everything

 

[the cac mamba]

i have to believe that these a$$holes know that they cant just take away this insurance from people

republicans dont get any sicker than democrats, and im sure they use it at the same rates. if they really just pull the rug out, its the democrats that should be having a field day with it. calling the repubs out in front of the entire country

sad that it will take these redneck republican voters getting sick and dying to realize that the repubs dont give a fukk about them not that they're actually dying. just the circumstance

 

[the cac mamba]

Maybe people(cacs) will wake up some day before its too late. History says thats a no but theres a first time for everything

if the repubs really dont replace this shyt, then a better wakeup call doesnt exist. you cant fukk with people's physical wellbeing, theres no glossing over that

you know jesus, now that i think about it: repealing obamacare, and the resulting response from the country, is gonna be the true indicator of how effective and successful it really was and is

 

[Dilltastic VolWon(derful)]

What happened to repeal and replace? And what are we even replacing it with? Has he even given us a plan yet?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

What happened to repeal and replace? And what are we even replacing it with? Has he even given us a plan yet?

No plan yet. There is a timetable for a plan to be released by the end of the month, but they don't have to abide by it.

And there is nothing to "replace" it with because it's already a Republican plan.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Republican plan is to repeal now, promise some sort of amazing replacement later with no intentions of anything beyond "health savings accounts" ever materializing. Keep pushing it off until dumb people hopefully forget about it, distract the public with some well-timed Trump nonsense and nationalistic international incidents. When all else fails, blame Obama and the dems. Already heard that one being passed around.

 

[gangreen]

wats the replacement tho.

Watch these unimaginative fools rebrand Obamacare something else and try to sell it back to us.

 

[hashmander]

Republican plan is to repeal now, promise some sort of amazing replacement later with no intentions of anything beyond "health savings accounts" ever materializing. Keep pushing it off until dumb people hopefully forget about it, distract the public with some well-timed Trump nonsense and nationalistic international incidents. When all else fails, blame Obama and the dems. Already heard that one being passed around.

it's a tried and tested formula that works brilliantly for them. sadly they would be fools to do otherwise.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Paul Ryan promises to replace key Obamacare policy with that same policy

Paul Ryan promises to replace key Obamacare policy with that same policy
The latest repeal-and-replace argument makes no sense.
Updated by Dylan Matthews@dylanmattdylan@vox.com Jan 20, 2017, 10:50am EST TWEET

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Paul Ryan has crafted a flattering, and politically valuable, reputation in the press as a wonk’s wonk, the rare member of Congress who knows how budget and tax policy works and how to use that knowledge to argue for conservative proposals.

So it was jarring to see a comment Ryan made in an interview with Charlie Rose on Wednesday, after Rose asked him to detail Republicans’ plans to replace Obamacare:

We also think that a refundable tax credit is a smarter way to get people the ability to go buy insurance that they like that they can afford. That's better than [Obamacare's] subsidies. A refundable tax credit means you get assistance to regardless of your income tax liability to buy care.




The only problem with this — as Slate’s Jordan Weissmann, who was the first to notice the comments, points out — is that Obamacare’s subsidies are literally a refundable tax credit. They’re specifically known as the “premium tax credit,” and you can read all about them at the IRS’s website.

What Ryan is saying is like suggesting that we should replace police departments with municipal agencies that investigate crime, or replace the Navy with a collection of armed sailors on boats and submarines. It makes no sense.

Now, Ryan does want to change what kind of refundable tax credits people receive. Currently, the Affordable Care Act offers a sliding scale of credits, with poorer households receiving the most assistance. Eventually the credit tapers off until it’s totally eliminated for people making more than four times the poverty line ($97,000 a year for a family of four).

Ryan wants to replace that with a universal credit, offered to both poor and rich families, varying in size only based on the recipient’s age (so that older people get more assistance). Ryan has not said how large he wants that credit to be, but if it is to cost as much or less than Obamacare’s credits, it’ll have to be considerably smaller than the maximum Obamacare subsidy. Money now going to poor families would have to be redirected to upper-middle- and upper-class families not currently receiving subsidies.

That change would be combined with a dramatic loosening of regulations regarding how generous health plans must be, and how high their deductible and copayments can go. Insurers would be able to charge older people more than they can now, potentially offsetting the bigger tax credits they’d get. So a family of four making, say, $30,000, toward the bottom end of the Obamacare subsidy range, would likely see support dwindle and be forced to buy a plan with much higher deductibles, copays, and coinsurance.

That is not a super-compelling pitch for the policy, so Ryan instead just made up some nonsense about refundable tax credits. The problem is not that Ryan is ignorant. He knows perfectly well that Obamacare uses refundable tax credits. And that makes the weird dishonesty of his approach to selling the Republican replacement effort all the more baffling.

 

[DonKnock]

First rock music, then rap music, then the dab, next these cacs stealing refundable tax credits

 

[FAH1223]

Thom Hartmann was talking about this on his show

The ACA was proposed by GOP in 1972. I have to look up the video but this is their policy.

 

[Reality]

Well it has to be put in context of other tax policy. History has shown that under republican administrations the effective tax rates of other classes beside the one percent tends to increase to cover deficits created by giving tax breaks to the richest of people or they decrease funding like to schools and roads to cover it.

In short you may or may not. You may see a increase on your paycheck but maybe your tax refund will turn into a tax payment or your tax refund will be much smaller than previously. Maybe you pay check will be larger but your public schools and highway sucks or you end up paying more of your income to healthcare or maybe your sales and property taxes go up.

It's a huge web of things to consider.

Keep your socialism. I'd much rather make $60k after taxes with $55k in expenses than make $55k after taxes with $30k in expenses breh.

Bootstraps.

 

[Scholar]

He's such a snake. He's willing to lie to all these people to save face but still screw em over

 

[DonKnock]

He's such a snake. He's willing to lie to all these people to save face but still screw em over

If they're gonna replace it with the exact same thing under a different name let em

Wastes time they could be using for evil