115th Congress defunds ACA: Senate: 51-48 House:227-198; Executive Order signed 1/20

[Worthless Loser]

Supreme Court, house, senate, and presidency are now/will be republican. Illegals will be prevented which is a big base of dem supporters. That and homos. Middle class took back the reigns and are aware of the agenda...the agenda that you and your other little shill buddies run around here pushing.

I don't push anything nor do I have any shill buddies. What are you talking about?

But it's easy to suggest that the senate might change majority with a small difference in numbers like that. I just believe the execution of the new health care law, Congress & Trump's performance might be enough influence.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

Why am I hearing about Ringling bros rather than this....seriously..

 

[Mowgli]

So does this mean i'll have more money on my paycheck?

 

[TempBar]

lol I sent your request to BK when you tagged me!

Dude is slacking man. I just need to get some things I bookmarked. How is this career forum going btw? I just saw it. College and careers flopped the last time cook and I tried to make that pop. Looks like you and @FAH1223 are giving a second crack at a lot of those ideas. I hope it works this time.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So does this mean i'll have more money on my paycheck?

if this is what concerns you, you're broke anyways

 

[Maschine_Man]

if this is what concerns you, you're broke anyways

I actually agree with you on something.

 

[Dr. Acula]

So does this mean i'll have more money on my paycheck?

Well it has to be put in context of other tax policy. History has shown that under republican administrations the effective tax rates of other classes beside the one percent tends to increase to cover deficits created by giving tax breaks to the richest of people or they decrease funding like to schools and roads to cover it.

In short you may or may not. You may see a increase on your paycheck but maybe your tax refund will turn into a tax payment or your tax refund will be much smaller than previously. Maybe you pay check will be larger but your public schools and highway sucks or you end up paying more of your income to healthcare or maybe your sales and property taxes go up.

It's a huge web of things to consider.

 

[88m3]

CBO: 18 million could lose coverage after ObamaCare repeal

this is dire


I've also read that ending ACA can lead to a $300 million deficit in NY alone

 

[Leasy]

CBO: 18 million could lose coverage after ObamaCare repeal

this is dire


I've also read that ending ACA can lead to a $300 million deficit in NY alone

Big ass recession coming

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I dont hate it. I said I don't care for it

In my opinion if your going to tackle health care don't p*ssy foot around with it. It's basically gussied up Romney Care.

It does some good things but we also can't ignore it's shortcomings. I understand you need as many people on the plan for it to work. But at the same time penalizing people for not being on it seems counter productive.

How is it counter productive? You're not using that word properly given the context of your statement.

And if you're complaining that you don't care for it because it's RomneyCare, then that can only mean you support a medicare for all/single payer plan. You can't complain about it p*ssy footing around and then prop up conservative ideology.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Pewmiums went up because there was funding setup to reimburse health insurance companies for joining the marketplace setup in the ACA and back in 2013 republicans defunded these reimbursements knowing the increases would come down the road. Last year those increases arrived.

A lot of small business owners also claim that due to the ACA they are now able to afford healthcare by the way. We just had someone who posted some cancer survivor who had a small business who stated exactly that to Paul Ryan during the town hall.

Premiums go up because healthcare premiums go up. These folks do not understand the concept of health insurance. There is no way they will understand why President Obama is not to blame for decreased subsidies.

Saying premiums went up in a discussion about health care economics is not significant. The only thing that matters is the rate of increase for that year, and the rate of increase compared to previous years.

The problem with this explanation is that it allows people to ignorantly blame Obama for an explainable cause and effect.

 

[blackzeus]

My mother is a doctor worked in one of these red state Midwestern towns fill of opioid and heroin addicts, former coal miners, and morbidly obese Walmart shoppers. She has since left, thank god.

The hospitals there are freaking out over the repeal of ACA because of provisions in ACA that kept them afloat.

Once this shyt goes away, these rural hospitals will be hit the hardest because they rely on ACA provisions more than anyone else to keep their doors open. So many rural hospitals will be closing their doors and these people will be more out of luck.

I'm still enjoying the schadenfreude of the whole thing.

Literally these rednecks are their own worst enemy

 

[#StarkSet]

I've also read that ending ACA can lead to a $300 million deficit in NY alone

Well when u take a tax away that's what happens

 

[#StarkSet]

why do you nikkas keep spreading bullshyt in a thread full of facts:
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22711868/
“This is the fifth straight year of relatively low premium growth (family coverage growing between 3 and 4 percentage points each year),” Kaiser reported. The report noted that “the continuing implementation of the ACA does not appear to be causing major disruptions in employer market,” in part because existing plans were grandfathered in and did not need to meet Obamacare requirements, such as covering preventive benefits without cost. Twenty-three percent of covered workers are enrolled in a grandfathered plan.

“Relatively few employers made changes to working hours or hiring as a result of the [employer responsibility] provision, with more taking actions that increased coverage offers than reducing them, similar to the results last year,” Kaiser said.

Indeed, when the Kaiser report was released in September, the White House trumpeted that the average family premium is now almost $3,600 lower than if premium growth had kept pace with the rate in the decade before the law was passed. We once gave Obama Pinocchios for calling this reduction a “tax cut” — it is not — but certainly it is a good-news story that Republicans are trying to spin as bad news.


http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22712337/
Between 2015 and 2016, the average premium for a U.S. family on an employer insurance plan — the most-used option by non-elderly consumers — rose 3 percent to about $18,142, according to a survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research & Educational Trust.

Analysts described the increase as modest compared with past trends. Since 2011, family premiums have risen 20 percent, which is less than the 31 percent increase between 2006 and 2011 and much less than the 63 percent increase between 2001 and 2006.

How much of this is due to the Affordable Care Act is open to debate, although the growing cost of deductibles is one factor.

“We’re seeing premiums rising at historically slow rates, which helps workers and employers alike, but it’s made possible in part by the more rapid rise in the deductibles workers must pay,” Drew Altman, CEO of the Kaiser Family Foundation, said in a statement.

Have premiums gone up because of ACA?

Guess it depends on what study you read



But guess what has gone up drastically because of ACA


Deductibles have tripled and quadrupled for some people's health insurance plans.


If they areny getting you on the premiums, they are getting u on the outrageous deductibles when u actually get sick

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Have premiums gone up because of ACA?

Guess it depends on what study you read



But guess what has gone up drastically because of ACA


Deductibles have tripled and quadrupled for some people's health insurance plans.


If they areny getting you on the premiums, they are getting u on the outrageous deductibles when u actually get sick

My god it's like talking to a brick wall.

The statement "have premiums gone up because of [the] ACA" is a red herring because PREMIUMS ALWAYS GO UP. So don't even mention it. The rate of increase - again - is more important.

Do you understand the function of a high deductible plan? Do you even understand that the high deductible plan with a health savings account is a republican free market proposal? It's entire purpose is to force you, the consumer, to consume less health resources by forcing you to be more accountable in the health market place and shoulder more of the health costs.

Of course deductibles have increased when the ACA demands better benefit packages across the board. No longer can insurers give you a catastrophic plan and still hit you with medical blls that force you into bankruptcy

So of course deductibles have increased when insurance companies have to pay from their own pockets once you hit your limit.

It's like banging...my fukkn...head...against...the fukkn wall...

Every thing you cats hate about the ACA are conservative/republican principles - but you just voted in republicans and conservatives with even worse policy proposals!