115th Congress defunds ACA: Senate: 51-48 House:227-198; Executive Order signed 1/20

General Mills

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Honestly do you even know what the ACA is? That's an honest question. Think long and hard before you get offended.
I do. No need to worry about me being offended. I'm here for knowledge so I take it wherever I can get it. I'm no dem or republican so no stanning here.
 

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Premiums went up because insurance companies have to take on people who lose them money (higher risk).
why do you nikkas keep spreading bullshyt in a thread full of facts:
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22711868/
“This is the fifth straight year of relatively low premium growth (family coverage growing between 3 and 4 percentage points each year),” Kaiser reported. The report noted that “the continuing implementation of the ACA does not appear to be causing major disruptions in employer market,” in part because existing plans were grandfathered in and did not need to meet Obamacare requirements, such as covering preventive benefits without cost. Twenty-three percent of covered workers are enrolled in a grandfathered plan.

“Relatively few employers made changes to working hours or hiring as a result of the [employer responsibility] provision, with more taking actions that increased coverage offers than reducing them, similar to the results last year,” Kaiser said.

Indeed, when the Kaiser report was released in September, the White House trumpeted that the average family premium is now almost $3,600 lower than if premium growth had kept pace with the rate in the decade before the law was passed. We once gave Obama Pinocchios for calling this reduction a “tax cut” — it is not — but certainly it is a good-news story that Republicans are trying to spin as bad news.

my point wasnt about me though...
it was about the effect Obamacare has on small business owners.

Its tough on them.
Thats something I dont see anybody on the left bring up.

Are you familiar w/ the issues a lot of government regulation creates for small business?

Do you want a corporate economy where we all work for corporations and government?

Why does this issue have to be black and white...where, anyone that is against Obamacare is a racist/sellout/ignorant person?
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/22712337/
Between 2015 and 2016, the average premium for a U.S. family on an employer insurance plan — the most-used option by non-elderly consumers — rose 3 percent to about $18,142, according to a survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research & Educational Trust.

Analysts described the increase as modest compared with past trends. Since 2011, family premiums have risen 20 percent, which is less than the 31 percent increase between 2006 and 2011 and much less than the 63 percent increase between 2001 and 2006.

How much of this is due to the Affordable Care Act is open to debate, although the growing cost of deductibles is one factor.

“We’re seeing premiums rising at historically slow rates, which helps workers and employers alike, but it’s made possible in part by the more rapid rise in the deductibles workers must pay,” Drew Altman, CEO of the Kaiser Family Foundation, said in a statement.
 

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does anyone know how the defunding will affect the under-26 provision for children staying on their parents' plans in the immediate term?
Oh yeah, and if you're under your parents employer sponsored plan, you shoul dbe ok for the time being. I think in the short term, the volatility will be contained to individual markets aka non-employer sponsored health plans.
 

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so what do you hate about it?
I dont hate it. I said I don't care for it

In my opinion if your going to tackle health care don't p*ssy foot around with it. It's basically gussied up Romney Care.

It does some good things but we also can't ignore it's shortcomings. I understand you need as many people on the plan for it to work. But at the same time penalizing people for not being on it seems counter productive.
 
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It won't be breh

The Koch network and all the big $$$ there is going to keep the House for them

The GOP has gerry mandered and stacked the deck
Nobody with half a brain thinks that. Dems and their ideologies are DEAD. Done. They lost everything, NY and LA are shytholes, nobody else thinks like them nor likes them.
Its what, 2 Independents, 46 Dems and 52 Republicans right? That's not a hard margin to overcome. It's not so much about Dem ideologies as Republicans potentially sinking their own boats with bad decisions.
 

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Thank God I have 100% employer paid dental, health and vision. Shout-out to my union

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Premiums went up because insurance companies have to take on people who lose them money (higher risk).

And you really think I should take taxpayer money? Someone who has $XX,XXX in the bank...
...and my girl makes $XXX,XXX.

Sunday we leave for a vacation in Italy.

Medicaid is for people like us?

my point wasnt about me though...
it was about the effect Obamacare has on small business owners.

Its tough on them.
Thats something I dont see anybody on the left bring up.

Are you familiar w/ the issues a lot of government regulation creates for small business?

Do you want a corporate economy where we all work for corporations and government?

Why does this issue have to be black and white...where, anyone that is against Obamacare is a racist/sellout/ignorant person?
The Democrats passed Obamacare w/ the hope of improving it later. They knew it wasnt perfect. But it has done more good than bad. Facts.
 

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Its what, 2 Independents, 46 Dems and 52 Republicans right? That's not a hard margin to overcome. It's not so much about Dem ideologies as Republicans potentially sinking their own boats with bad decisions.

Senate is different

But the House is staying red
 

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Premiums went up because insurance companies have to take on people who lose them money (higher risk).

And you really think I should take taxpayer money? Someone who has $XX,XXX in the bank...
...and my girl makes $XXX,XXX.

Sunday we leave for a vacation in Italy.

Medicaid is for people like us?

my point wasnt about me though...
it was about the effect Obamacare has on small business owners.

Its tough on them.
Thats something I dont see anybody on the left bring up.

Are you familiar w/ the issues a lot of government regulation creates for small business?

Do you want a corporate economy where we all work for corporations and government?

Why does this issue have to be black and white...where, anyone that is against Obamacare is a racist/sellout/ignorant person?
Pewmiums went up because there was funding setup to reimburse health insurance companies for joining the marketplace setup in the ACA and back in 2013 republicans defunded these reimbursements knowing the increases would come down the road. Last year those increases arrived.

A lot of small business owners also claim that due to the ACA they are now able to afford healthcare by the way. We just had someone who posted some cancer survivor who had a small business who stated exactly that to Paul Ryan during the town hall.
 
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