Zambia is now China's colony

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Even before tge Chinese came...REMEMBER....development funding has previously come in the form of the World Bank and IMF doing high interest loans with stipulations. The stipulations usually meant selling public utilities, and paying those high interest loans meant no money to pay for infrastructure.

However, this Chinese model is different because it. actively builds needed infraatructure (Quality TBD), but obviously still stipulations are in place like the tollway, selling land among the highways, etc.
Their building subpar infrastructure in exchange for resources that are worth 100s time of that. Importing their own people and little to no transfer of knowledge is being passed, which was the whole purpose for the lee African countries to seek external partners in first place.

Not to mention Chinese despite their development are still third worlders with third word mindset. What these African male leader idiots should have done was to to play these major playlets against each other to get the best deal.
 

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In a global economy in which a developing nation's growth depends upon the infusion of capital, what would Africa do without outside investment? I think a lot of you are being premature in your judgement. Experiencing anxiety over China's moves is natural, given the colonial past Africa is still clawing itself out of, but let's see what happens before jumping to conclusions. Better China investing than the US. :francis:

That's short sighted considering Africa is the most resource rich continent on the planet besides lumber (that's still S. America) the more we make electronics the more demand will be for silicates and rare earth metals. China is there for THAT more than just a nation's sovereignty. But there's NOTHING that isn't serious about Africa becoming a debtors continent.
 

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Where was this American media attention during the rwandan genocide or any other tragedy ? Let's not pretend that America gives a fukk about Africa so when these articles pop up, whether or not it's true, there some alterior motives behind it.

At least China don't mess with the politics and that's something they learned from the West. they are doing business with whoever leaders are in these countries as they define how they want to work with China. Like when Obama went to Africa he was talking about lbgt rights. Like who cares about that shyt when people are in economic distress, it's ridiculous. The Chinese are by no means there from the kindness.of their hearts but at least their loans are strictly business with none of the sanctions, policies, currency devaluation, etc of the west in the past. China obviously sees Africa as a part of it's economic strategy and sees Africa economy taking off. It's kind of what happened with Japan and China where Japan needed resources so it helped China build up it's industrial base. It's a bilateral relationship meaning both parties have interest. If African countries had no interest then they would not work with China, there are no sanctions, military actions, etc. For example in Malaysia where they basically stopped on a major project loaned from China. China basically said okay figure out what you want and let us know. They're not forcing them to finish the projects.

At the very least there seems to be effort made by the Chinese to show that they want to help and uplift people even if it is complete bs. China definitely isn't doing this out of some Goodwill pity mission and it's not a charity but let's not pretend that people in this country care, so these types of articles are always suspect as fukk as to the real motive. At the worst, even China was just like the west, they're going about it much better.


Well said. Let’s not also forget a lot of these TLR faux militants post these articles simply to provoke and clown Africans by calling us c00ns and what not.

They are an ignorant and hateful bunch.
 

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In a global economy in which a developing nation's growth depends upon the infusion of capital, what would Africa do without outside investment? I think a lot of you are being premature in your judgement. Experiencing anxiety over China's moves is natural, given the colonial past Africa is still clawing itself out of, but let's see what happens before jumping to conclusions. Better China investing than the US. :francis:

I disagree. China is not better, it’s just another option and like any option if it has free reign it will do as it pleases. African leaders need to get balls and start advocating for their people instead of wasting people’s time with their black power speeches as soon as their popularity wanes. I’d much rather that infrastructure building remains in the hand of the West. African leaders don’t know how to negotiate, they just know how to exercise military power to have people vote them as a ‘democracy’.
 

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Well said. Let’s not also forget a lot of these TLR faux militants post these articles simply to provoke and clown Africans by calling us c00ns and what not.

They are an ignorant and hateful bunch.

Because of a lot you are c00ns. Y’all wait till ish gets to the point of no return before your eyes open instead of preplanning. China ain’t a saviour anymore than the West is. At least the west doesn’t create ghost towns and crumbling building. The Chinese don’t even trust their own foods and crappy infrastructure that African leaders are paying top dollar for.
 

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That will take men taking other men to task. Although some are willing to do it, very few actually will and actually do in reality. I bet all these African countries be policing women like crazy and expecting African women to be a lot of things. Kenya has a high rate of domestic abuse in women and are more willing to fight for the right to marry underaged girls than get their ish together. But their male leaders be quick to put Indians as an African tribe. No dignity, warrants no respect.

P.S. east Africa has a lot of south Asians and middle easterners so to be fair they may be influencing the stats in domestic abuse front.

You obviously have your own feminist agenda that you are trying to advance.
 

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Because of a lot you are c00ns. Y’all wait till ish gets to the point of no return before your eyes open instead of preplanning. China ain’t a saviour anymore than the West is. At least the west doesn’t create ghost towns and crumbling building. The Chinese don’t even trust their own foods and crappy infrastructure that African leaders are paying top dollar for.

Yup, I knew it. Another ignorant a$$hole who doesn’t know shyt about what he or she is talking about.

fukk out of here. :camby:
 

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Think of it like a bank giving a college freshmen a credit card with a 20k limit.

Giving the student the card doesnt = the student will blow it, but being that they are a student the options they have to pay things off can vary greatly by their background and habits. Having the card can be an adventagous thing or be a bomb waiting to explode because regardless when the bill is due the banks will collect something by any means.

I get it. Under the guise that a booming economy is assured, any loan taken will be paid with no issues. In reality, it could all go to shyt very quickly based on what the deals made entails, not to mention accrued interest and the like.
 

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Y’all don’t like criticism so it’s no surprise.

Criticism is one thing, gleeful provocation from ignorant faux militants based on the insecurity of that they feel about the position of their own group is quite another.

If you don’t care about Africa and it’s all about AA gang or whatever ignorance you socially maladjusted dweebs are now throwing around, step your punk ass to the side and let us do our thing.

All I know is every time i go back to Kenya, I see how much it is growing and the enthusiasm of the people. A far cry from western propaganda portrayal of this Chinese takeover.
 

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I get it. Under the guise that a booming economy is assured, any loan taken will be paid with no issues. In reality, it could all go to shyt very quickly based on what the deals made entails, not to mention accrued interest and the like.

The onus is on leadership to do the best business on behalf of the leadership. But history has shown us majority of modern black leaders have been puppets for external parties, and anyone who wasnt was typically killed or blackballed/deligitimized.
 
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