Zack Snyder Reveals His Original Plans for 'Justice League'

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I’m talking about the main story line overall. Snyder wanted to break up the JL. How are you gonna rush that in 5-8 movies?

Why rush Darkseid into the fold too? All of this is too much. We all know WB was hurrying things up, this would’ve made it much more of a clusterfukk.

Naw they don't have to follow the Marvel movie formula. What Synder was cooking up for the JL movies was like it was ripped from the comics. IIRC, they introduced Darkseid at the end of issue 1 of the 52 Justice League. I liked what he did with MOS & BvS so I would be all aboard his original Justice League plan

 

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So basically Earth 2/Injustice.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Naw they don't have to follow the Marvel movie formula. What Synder was cooking up for the JL movies was like it was ripped from the comics. IIRC, they introduced Darkseid at the end of issue 1 of the 52 Justice League. I liked what he did with MOS & BvS so I would be all aboard his original Justice League plan

I’m not saying follow the Marvel formula, but if you’re gonna go big like this it needs to be fleshed out.

We all know WB was rushing stuff. BvS was a clusterfukk, and this idea would’ve been the same.

These movies aren’t just for comic book geeks. What we may get, the average viewer who never read a comic book would be

 

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I’m not saying follow the Marvel formula, but if you’re gonna go big like this it needs to be fleshed out.

We all know WB was rushing stuff. BvS was a clusterfukk, and this idea would’ve been the same.

These movies aren’t just for comic book geeks. What we may get, the average viewer who never read a comic book would be

Boomtubes and all can be explained without extra movies needed to give a back story. That's like saying any sci-fi/fantasy movie needs setup movies to explain what's going on.
Explain it in the film and the audience will get. I always see that argument in comic book forums where they think they have to simplify everything for the general audience.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Boomtubes and all can be explained without extra movies needed to give a back story. That's like saying any sci-fi/fantasy movie needs setup movies to explain what's going on.
Explain it in the film and the audience will get. I always see that argument in comic book forums where they think they have to simplify everything for the general audience.

Agreed....

And that’s why I don’t think it needs to be explained how the Tesserect got from where it was in Cap 1 to CMavel.

Not everything needs to be simplified

Martha

 

[NinoBrown]

His plans wouldn't have worked, even if Justice League had been split into two movies. It could have worked for a straight to DVD/VOD animated movie since the bulk of those viewers are comic fans.

I saw JL with some friends that were casual viewers, they knew the big 3, but were utterly confused for much of the film when Cyborg, Steppenwolf, Boom Tubes, and Aquaman appeared...

Even as a fan of the media, from a commercial pov, BvS didn't make much sense for the average-movie goer...it was too much of a stretch for a detective of 20-years or so to turn on Supes when Supes could have killed everyone without much thought when he became public.

Other properties such as Marvel found the balance of keeping the average movie goer and knowledgeable comic fan engaged..

WB/Snyder pissed off and alienated both categories...

 

[MenacingMonk]

Boomtubes and all can be explained without extra movies needed to give a back story. That's like saying any sci-fi/fantasy movie needs setup movies to explain what's going on.
Explain it in the film and the audience will get. I always see that argument in comic book forums where they think they have to simplify everythingk for the general audience.

Why are you guys thinking I’m talking about boom tubes and parademons?

He wanted to do Injustice type stuff. You gotta build that tension of breaking up. How you gonna have the JL in one movie and then have them break up like that on the next flick?

And Darkseid finding the anti-life equation in 30 minutes?

You can’t go rushing this shyt. Like I said before, look at what happened in BVS when they stuffed so much in.

 

[MenacingMonk]

I saw JL with some friends that were casual viewers, they knew the big 3, but were utterly confused for much of the film when Cyborg, Steppenwolf, Boom Tubes, and Aquaman appeared...

Even as a fan of the media, from a commercial pov, BvS didn't make much sense for the average-movie goer...it was too much of a stretch for a detective of 20-years or so to turn on Supes when Supes could have killed everyone without much thought when he became public.

Other properties such as Marvel found the balance of keeping the average movie goer and knowledgeable comic fan engaged..

WB/Snyder pissed off and alienated both categories...

Did they explain what a boom tube does? I don’t even remember.

 

[Won Won]

Spider-Man featuring Iron Man made the same amount at the box office as BvS, that must have been a failure too

2nd reboot in 5 years, coming off a shytty sequel that killed its own cinematic universe, that made more domestically and internationally than the previous series while having a smaller budget, with the best reviews since Spider-Man 2, starring an actor that people love in the role. So, no.

 

[Spliff]

It's embarrassing how they dropped the ball after MOS due to impatience.

There's going to be a void after Endgame that they could've easily taken advantage of. Was no need to rush events leading to Justice League.

 

[NinoBrown]

It's embarrassing how they dropped the ball after MOS due to impatience.

There's going to be a void after Endgame that they could've easily taken advantage of. Was no need to rush events leading to Justice League.

Retro piece for WW is a gamble, I think people may be tired of "In the 80s" angles over and over again....

They could have really expanded their universe, bring in other galactic factors rather than focus on Supes and Bats ..

 

[Json]

Nah
Everybody ain’t watch all the Marvel movies
Solos for each hero ain’t needed

If you just want to break stuff then yeah. Do a Suicide Squad and have everyone die at the end.

If you want people to care about the stuff Flash loses in Flashpoint to save his mom, you need to take time to show how great his life was.

Start off a Flash movie destroying stuff just so we can see a WW vs Aquaman fight is lazy.

 

[Json]

Retro piece for WW is a gamble, I think people may be tired of "In the 80s" angles over and over again....

They could have really expanded their universe, bring in other galactic factors rather than focus on Supes and Bats ..

DC needs to figure out its new DCEU so I don’t think WW hanging back hurts. Plus it allows to expand how long this stuff was going on.

The way Snyder did MOS made alien contact the first time. Ignore it and we can set up that the government was aware of Martians and Adam Strange etc.

 

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Why are you guys thinking I’m talking about boom tubes and parademons?

He wanted to do Injustice type stuff. You gotta build that tension of breaking up. How you gonna have the JL in one movie and then have them break up like that on the next flick?

And Darkseid finding the anti-life equation in 30 minutes?

You can’t go rushing this shyt. Like I said before, look at what happened in BVS when they stuffed so much in.

Come on, bruh. You still putting it against the Marvel movies. We never had a movie where the antagonist found an item they were searching for in a single movie? Plus this was going to be a 2 part movie with each probably being as long as BvS (directors cut) which was well over 2 hours which is enough time two explain boomtubes and motives. The seeds for the Injustice storyline was already planted in BvS and would've been fleshed out over JL part 1&2.
Injustice had two hit games and I'm sure that the vast majority that played them were not comic book heads. With that you got people already familiar with the story and they'll explain it to their friends or whoever, or people that don't know it will look it up because you know Snyder or someone will bring it up in interviews leading up to the movie's release.

And by the way, I liked BvS. Was it perfect? No, Doomsday should've been shown earlier maybe in hibernation and then have Lex awaken him. Also the dude from Ant-Man should've been playing Lex.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

If you just want to break stuff then yeah. Do a Suicide Squad and have everyone die at the end.

If you want people to care about the stuff Flash loses in Flashpoint to save his mom, you need to take time to show how great his life was.

Start off a Flash movie destroying stuff just so we can see a WW vs Aquaman fight is lazy.

You’re assuming everyone watches all the Marve movies
I haven’t...don’t know shyt about Thor when I watched the first Avengers movie

Didn’t decrease my enjoyment of it