Yvette Carnell Checks Queenzflip on Reparations... #ADOS

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He flamed her pretty good with the “strappy” animation :mjlol:
But its corny, tho. And he too goddamn old. I'll be 43 next month and his memory go back further than mine, so that nikka prolly 50 whole years old with this juvenile shyt. He did it with Mechee X too. It remains corny.

i was referring to the chapters. I may be wrong but they seem to have lil involvement from her or Tone.Specifically the california one
:ld: ADOS NYC seem pretty active. They damn sure be blowing up my phone. I haven't been following as closely as usual but I didn't get the impression that they were a renegade group. You know something I don't?
 

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We don't have to rehash the fact that we have opposing positions everytime we interact breh.

Can you elaborate on what her politics are supposed to indicate about the faith people should have in her? Cause at first, Black celebrities were the problem (you forgot that in your comparison to Tariq/pop culture), then Pan Africanism was the problem, then people who actually supported and even worked with them (Sandy Darity, Freedman, Cali reparations advocates, etc). At every turn she's cannibalized the very base she wanted to engage. What direction has that taken "ADOS"?



EDIT: I forgot that in between Black celebrities and Pan Africanism being the problem, Black entrepreneurs were the problem. Yvette's whole shtick is targeting whatever social group she thinks is "too big for their britches" and trying to tear them down in hopes that it'll align people with her.



She correct about Black capitalism and celebrity worship though.

Black capitalism will faill without a massive a capital infusion





Most of her talking points are backed up by data curated by legit economists
 
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She and Tone started all this and Tariq took it and ran with it.


Yvette didn't start shyt. In 2012, she was saying Ron Paul was the one true hope. In 2016, she said that asking for race-specific policy was immature.

She changes her positions by 270 degrees every election cycle.
 

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Yvette didn't start shyt. In 2012, she was saying Ron Paul was the one true hope. In 2016, she said that asking for race-specific policy was immature.

She changes her positions by 270 degrees every election cycle.


Doesn't matter, race specific remedies are the only thing that will improve our community now.
 

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can you elaborate on this please

Dr. Norris Shelton, the originator of the DAS (Descendants of American Slaves), had his movement hijacked by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore along with Dr. Kevin Cosby, who's the current President of Simmons College in Kentucky, where Dr. Shelton was a student.

Dr. Cosby not only closely collaborates with Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell, Dr. Cosby/Simmons College also facilitated Yvette Carnell's 2 #ADOS conventions.

Below is a video with Tariq & a grassroots #ADOS activist with receipts talking about Yvette & Tone stole from him.

 

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She correct about Black capitalism and celebrity worship though.

Black capitalism will faill without a massive a capital infusion





Most of her talking points are backed up by data curated by legit economists
"The Data"™️ is a fallacy. Data can be flawed, skewed, or manipulated. Most of "The Data"™️ was provided by mainstream (White) organizations. They poured zero into our own-- in rhetoric or otherwise, along this same work.

Whats more, the one sliver of legitimacy they had in Sandy Darity was castigated and thrown aside cause he had the nerve to like a tweet from Bishop Talbert Swan (who was slated to speak at the "ADOS" conference) because he retweeted Tariq announcing the first FBA conference... and not only that, they pivoted from him to citing Thomas Pikkety-- a WHITE ... FRENCH national as their source of inspiration when they rebranded as "ADOS Foundation". That's the person were talking about.
 

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"The Data"™️ is a fallacy. Data can be flawed, skewed, or manipulated. Most of "The Data"™️ was provided by mainstream (White) organizations. They poured zero into our own-- in rhetoric or otherwise, along this same work.

Whats more, the one sliver of legitimacy they had in Sandy Darity was castigated and thrown aside cause he had the nerve to like a tweet from Bishop Talbert Swan (who was slated to speak at the "ADOS" conference) because he retweeted Tariq announcing the first FBA conference... and not only that, they pivoted from him to citing Thomas Pikkety-- a WHITE ... FRENCH national as their source of inspiration when they rebranded as "ADOS Foundation". That's the person were talking about.



If you don't believe in study after study that diagnoses the problem and presents the remedy, which is race based reparations, then you are delusional.

You are living in an alternate reality.


Do you not believe in the racial gap:lupe:


Do you not believe in the economic mobility gap :dahell:


Yvette and Tone usually present secondary data curated by real social scientists.


Because they have weird personalities you think that invalidates the data:why:



I'm really trying to understand your stance.
 

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Dr. Norris Shelton, the originator of the DAS (Descendants of American Slaves), had his movement hijacked by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore along with Dr. Kevin Cosby, who's the current President of Simmons College in Kentucky, where Dr. Shelton was a student.

Dr. Cosby not only closely collaborates with Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell, Dr. Cosby/Simmons College also facilitated Yvette Carnell's 2 #ADOS conventions.

Below is a video with Tariq & a grassroots #ADOS activist with receipts talking about Yvette & Tone stole from him.


This man knows the real :sas1:I'll dig if I need to but Dr. Cosby personally granted Norris Shelton an Honorary Doctorate from Simmons College, Louisville, KY, 2018 I believe....

2019??? The Inaugural "ADOS" Conference. Hosted by Simmons College, Louisville, KY... Norris Shelton was not invited.
 

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This man knows the real :sas1:I'll dig if I need to but Dr. Cosby personally granted Norris Shelton an Honorary Doctorate from Simmons College, Louisville, KY, 2018 I believe....

2019??? The Inaugural "ADOS" Conference. Hosted by Simmons College, Louisville, KY... Norris Shelton was not invited.


You are the same dude that was telling people to get behind Shaun King :dead:



You went and deleted the comment but we haven't forgotten.
 

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This man knows the real :sas1:I'll dig if I need to but Dr. Cosby personally granted Norris Shelton an Honorary Doctorate from Simmons College, Louisville, KY, 2018 I believe....

2019??? The Inaugural "ADOS" Conference. Hosted by Simmons College, Louisville, KY... Norris Shelton was not invited.

Who cares?

We're pressing forward.

:manny:

You are the same dude that was telling people to get behind Shaun King :dead:



You went and deleted the comment but we haven't forgotten.

Wow.

:mjlol:
 

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:jbhmm: Link? I feel like we were following her at this time.


Here is Yvette on February 12, 2016:



YVETTE CARNELL: Well, listen. I would tell anyone that I am in favor of reparations. But reparations for me looks a lot like what Bernie Sanders defined. Reparations for me is massive investment in poor communities. And for me the whole problem with Ta-Nehisi Coates and what he, and what he did, what he did to me was really intellectually bankrupt. Because what he’s asking black people to do is follow this kind of identity politics, this kind of black identity politics, everything has to be about us being black people as opposed to everything being about us being poor people, disproportionately poor. And he wants us to follow down that road which really is a road to nowhere, leads to a goose egg.

You know, the most interesting thing to me about what Ta-Nehisi Coates said in terms of how he defined reparations is that he never really defined reparations. And he, and when you ask him about, hey, what does reparations look like and what is it supposed to be he says, well, I don’t have all the answers. Well, what you really don’t have is an argument. You’re happy to define reparations for yourself, but you’re telling me that what Bernie Sanders has here doesn’t go far enough.

And I would, I would ask, like he says, you know, he said in a more recent piece, he says, you know, black people have more concentrated poverty. Black people are even more poor than white people, than white poor people. That’s who we are. Well, that’s true. But that goes, that really guts his case. Because if you really know how poor we are as black people then you know that, okay, cutting us a check ain’t going to get it, and what we need is real infrastructure and real investment from the government. Everything from healthcare, everything to, everything from free college education. I mean, when you look at Flint, Michigan right now, that’s just perfect for me. You can’t, you can’t give black people a check for Flint and say, okay, deal with your stuff. That’s some, this is something that’s going to take massive investment from the government to fix.

And so the real, the real intellectually bankrupt part of Coates’ argument is that he doesn’t define an argument for himself other than say, you know what, black people are really, really poor. And socialism doesn’t go far enough. This sort of socialism stuff doesn’t go far enough. Well, that’s really not good in terms of a salient argument, is it, if I say that this doesn’t go far enough. It goes very far, and you haven’t defined how it should go further. The only thing you’ve really said, and the only thing Ta-Nehisi Coates has said, is he says that this sort of socialist politics does not vanquish racism. Those were his words. Well, my response would be nothing vanquishes racism. And we shouldn’t be concerned with vanquishing racism. I’m not concerned whether or not the white guy across town loves black people, or whether he hates black people. What I’m concerned with is the material consequence of racism. And the only way to help alleviate or ameliorate those consequences is through massive public investment that looks a lot like what [Sanders] is talking about.




That's 2016, at which point Ta-Nehisi Coates has been the public face of race-specific reparations for two years. And even after two years of Coates breathing new life into the reparations movement and making it a public discussion with real support for the first time in 20 years, Yvette was STILL shytting on the movement and arguing against race-specific solutions.

She didn't start shyt. N'COBRA should get credit for keeping the fight going for 35 years, but Coates was the one who reignited the conversation recently. Yvette just jumped on it years later after saying all sorts of bullshyt for so long and then turns around and shyts on those who were paving the way while she was still talking about Ron Paul.
 
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