"You got a bunch of 29/30 year olds trying to be acceptable to 16 & 15 year olds" - Chuck D

[The Ruler 09]

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Making hiphop music and enriching oneself =/= brokering slavery

Selling music isn't selling people ..... I'm done

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The principles still apply, but clearly you have none so it's expected you wouldn't get it and have your warped view point.

 

[Grifter]

Wouldn't teen music be more so the collabs with pop artists?

 

[Cynic]

The principles still apply, but clearly you have none so it's expected you wouldn't get it and have your warped view point.

If you believe

creating a product from nothing to sell to the masses is akin to condemning another human to a life of slavery

What more can I say ?

I'll just live my shallow capitalist life and you do whatever you do

 

[The Ruler 09]

If you believe

creating a product from nothing to sell to the masses is akin to condemning another human to a life of slavery

What more can I say ?

I'll just live my shallow capitalist life and you do whatever you do

I didn't say that, what I said is the PRINCIPLE still applies. Of selling out and doing something damaging and detrimental for self benefit still applies. A lot of this shyt is akin to mental slavery anyway, and certainly exploitation, which was aspects of slavery itself too.

Yes you do that, and I will.

 

[big bun]

Chuck D was 29 when Fight The Power dropped, I guarantee you there were mostly people younger than him buying their shyt. Young people 15-25 are always gonna be the biggest consumers of rap and pop, who else has time to look for new shyt, and who else doesn't think stuff from 15 years ago was better? You'll go broke appealing to older people with kids, jobs, and an attitude that everything was better in their senior year of highschool

Yes, but PE's music at that point in time was for everyone, even for cats older than Chuck at that point in time. PE didn't dumb down shyt for anyone or cater to a specific or younger crowd.

 

[east oakland usa]

Can we vote him in for president Next time?
Now THAT shyt WOULD BE MONUMENTAL

 

[The Ruler 09]

Can we vote him in for president Next time?
Now THAT shyt WOULD BE MONUMENTAL

He'd have my vote.

 

[69 others]

pure unadulterated truth. the negroe in america have been regulated to a creature of entertaining buffoonery for the rest of the world.

 

[Piff Perkins]

To be fair this was going on in the 80s and 90s too. Styles simply changed. Young people are always gonna dominate the trends, and older people try to catch up or look old. Hence why Hov released that shytty MCHG album.

bad thing about dudes like Chuck is that they've been unable to adapt by finding dope production. Once samples became too expensive they all fell off...

 

[The Ruler 09]

Chuck is making far better music than most of the mainstream rappers today.

 

[SAJ!!]

To be fair this was going on in the 80s and 90s too. Styles simply changed. Young people are always gonna dominate the trends, and older people try to catch up or look old. Hence why Hov released that shytty MCHG album.

bad thing about dudes like Chuck is that they've been unable to adapt by finding dope production. Once samples became too expensive they all fell off...

I've been saying this for years. When the samples laws came in, it messed up production crews like the Bomb Squad, who couldn't find any real ways to adapt to the changing times, production-wise. It's one of the main reasons why PE's production fell off for years.

I always felt the group should have came back with a more stripped down approach. Keep the elements that made PE, but have it reflect the new era of production.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I've been saying this for years. When the samples laws came in, it messed up production crews like the Bomb Squad, who couldn't find any real ways to adapt to the changing times, production-wise. It's one of the main reasons why PE's production fell off for years.

I always felt the group should have came back with a more stripped down approach. Keep the elements that made PE, but have it reflect the new era of production.

Agreed. Or go the El-p route. I've been impressed by the way he layers synths to the point they sound like samples. And the samples he does use don't break the bank.


That sounds like some 21st century Bombsquad shyt to me.

A lot of producers just couldn't evolve past soul samples. Creating your own sounds/beats is a lot cheaper and lucrative. A lot of real talented dudes are on soundcloud doing shyt like this. Interesting Drake is pouching some of them but I don't see many other rappers doing it. I wish older rappers would just sit down and try to find the next big producer - who might be some nerdy 20yo white kid from the suburbs, or a black guy in London, or an Asian dude, etc.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

I need a 35 yr old rapper to rap about strugglin to find a job, then a temp service hires you, then 3 months later, the company hires you on.

I wanna hear a rapper rap about needing to borrow $10 from their wife so they can put gas in the car to make it to work.

fukk it. I'ma be that nikka.

It'd be an autobiography

 

[NobodyReally]

To be fair this was going on in the 80s and 90s too. Styles simply changed. Young people are always gonna dominate the trends, and older people try to catch up or look old. Hence why Hov released that shytty MCHG album.

bad thing about dudes like Chuck is that they've been unable to adapt by finding dope production. Once samples became too expensive they all fell off...

How come this doesn't apply to other genres though? We got old rock bands like The Greatful Dead and Genesis still doing the same music in 2015 that they were doing thirty years ago, but when it comes to hip-hop we only like it if it's fresh. There's no respect for the past. Classic hip-hop isn't pushed like Classic rock, which creates pressure to conform. It's sad.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Jay tried to do it and ya'll hated.

Kingdom Come wasn't the best but it wasn't THAT bad

still better than MCHG