Yesterday price....You know the fukking rest: Chicago Bears 🐻 2023 Off-Season thread

[Brozay]

Ive talked plenty about what I think Poles is going to do this offseason

I would love to see what this team would look like with a legit play caller and MHJ. The offensive performance yesterday was not acceptable, we just need the chains moved a bit and we win that game. Getsy cant find a flow to keep the chains moving.

We would actually been in good shape for the playoffs today if we got that win

 

[Brozay]

listening to 670, it sounds like the players are pointing fingers at the coaching decisions - Mooney/DJ questoning offensive gameplan

a bunch of defensive players questioning the play call on 3d & 15

that game was prob the end of Flus coaching regime

 

[Deafheaven]

Ive talked plenty about what I think Poles is going to do this offseason

I would love to see what this team would look like with a legit play caller and MHJ. The offensive performance yesterday was not acceptable, we just need the chains moved a bit and we win that game. Getsy cant find a flow to keep the chains moving.

We would actually been in good shape for the playoffs today if we got that win

I'm leaning towards him being out of here He can easily get a 2/3rd in a trade. Williams would be walking into one of the better situations for a rookie in some time and if he is even average hes already replicating JF numbers which is just being real.

I wouldn't mind mhj though. I think it'll just come down to the new coach wanting JF or not tbh.

 

[Brozay]

I'm leaning towards him being out of here He can easily get a 2/3rd in a trade. Williams would be walking into one of the better situations for a rookie in some time and if he is even average hes already replicating JF numbers which is just being real.

I wouldn't mind mhj though. I think it'll just come down to the new coach wanting JF or not tbh.

I think Poles will move on - a whole new coaching staff, and take Caleb - completely refresh the offense

I really dont have a strong personal opinion on this, because I havent scouted Caleb - Im just sharing my thoughts on what I think Poles will do

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

they should be but 8-6, but 'good' teams dont give away games like this - its a reflection of the team that they lost those games. they wouldnt be ready for a playoff matchup right now

there is a lot of good talent around this roster and plenty to build going into 2024 - we need to be ready to compete next season

You're right.

I think what we've learned about Fields is the difference between good and great. If he was great, despite the dysfunction, bad play calling, bad Wrs outside of Moore...they'd still win games.

Fields can probably be really good on a really good team. However, as of now he cant make up mistakes or overcome team mistakes.
I made the Lamar comparison, but thats the difference. Lamar is far more twitchy (mentally and somewhat physically) and it saves a couple plays to win games.

It might be best for both parties to split. Cause at this point it might be best for the BEARS to gamble on a QB that overcome the teams issues.

 

[Deafheaven]

You're right.

I think what we've learned about Fields is the difference between good and great. If he was great, despite the dysfunction, bad play calling, bad Wrs outside of Moore...they'd still win games.

Fields can probably be really good on a really good team. However, as of now he cant make up mistakes or overcome team mistakes.
I made the Lamar comparison, but thats the difference. Lamar is far more twitchy (mentally and somewhat physically) and it saves a couple plays to win games.

It might be best for both parties to split. Cause at this point it might be best for the BEARS to gamble on a QB that overcome the teams issues.

Yeah I think Fields def can be a good ass qb for a team that isn't retarded. could be us, could be someone else.

Hopefully Car loses out. worst case scenario is their pick falls behind ARI and you miss out on the first qb and MHJ, though running it back with JF and one of the those stud OL plus another wr isn't terrible. I really really think with competent coaching this is a capable team. Its obvious its talent on the D end. Get another WR and some OL depth please. Tevin is a beast but he made of glass.

 

[prime]

listening to 670, it sounds like the players are pointing fingers at the coaching decisions - Mooney/DJ questoning offensive gameplan

a bunch of defensive players questioning the play call on 3d & 15

that game was prob the end of Flus coaching regime

Yeah unless your a super fields hater or a casual who don’t watch a ton of bear games it’s obvious that getsy is the number one problem for the offense I’ve been calling him out since week two once again, I’m not saying Justin is perfect He does have his flaws and the bears are most likely moving on but getsy is fukking he might be worse than Nagy

 

[Po pimp]

Terrible game all around. I really wouldn't be shocked if they do run it back with Justin on account of they really need to see if what this team does with non idiots as coaches. MHJ 1, best available OT with our pick fukk it. Tua looked like a bust till poindexter and Tyreek Hill got to Miami.

But I wouldn't really care if they moved off him either. hopefully CAR doesn't start inexplicably winning these last few games

they got jags n packers those should def be losses but you never know.

Fixed

And they already had Jaylen Waddle on the squad (I think he might’ve been the 6th pick). It’s almost like teams with two great receivers have a better offense

Not to mention they have Mostert. But yes, let’s just draft a different QB to this same team without any upgrades, and they’ll fix everything

 

[J-MIL]

That’s what I was telling @CHICAGO and @J-MIL they criticize Eberflus for not taking a field goal but if Mooney gives any effort to make a block the bears win the game this was the play of the game IMO

Every sports show in Chicago said he should've attempted the field goal. We couldn't score points as it is

Mooney is 5'10 175 you shouldn't be calling all these plays where he has to block. He's shown you already that ain't his strength

Those decisions are why you got players questioning the coaching/play calling

 

[prime]

Every sports show in Chicago said he should've attempted the field goal. We couldn't score points as it is

Mooney is 5'10 175 you shouldn't be calling all these plays where he has to block. He's shown you already that ain't his strength

Those decisions are why you got players questioning the coaching/play calling

Of course they said that lol and if Mooney made the block and Justin gets the first down or the touchdown they would’ve been like what a call

 

[CHICAGO]

Every sports show in Chicago said he should've attempted the field goal. We couldn't score points as it is

Mooney is 5'10 175 you shouldn't be calling all these plays where he has to block. He's shown you already that ain't his strength

Those decisions are why you got players questioning the coaching/play calling

POINTS WERE A PREMIUM
AND THESE NEW nikkaS WANNA
COACH LIKE MADDEN.

I WAS WATCHING THE RAVENS GM
LAST NITE AND THEY MADE SURE
THEY TOOK THE 3 PTS EVERYTIME
JUST TO ADD A LITTLE TO THEIR LEAD.

THEY WON BY 16 WHICH IS THE SAME NUMBER THE BEARS
WOULD HAVE BEEN LEADING BY IF
THEY TOOK THE 3...

YOU WOULD THINK AFTER NOT
TAKING THE 3 IN THE BRONCOS LOST
nikkaS WOULD HAVE LEARNED THEIR LESSON.






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[I AM WARHOL]

I think it’s best for both parties to move on from Fields.

 

[Po pimp]

I didnt even see this play live. Ghatdman Mooney actually pushed him into Fields. Its a first down run if Mooney actually gave ZERO effort.

this effort level is not acceptable when playoffs were literally on the line, no excuse here

I wouldn’t say it’s a lack of effort but more so ability. That’s why @Dr. Narcisse said if he did nothing, it was a first down. Mooney is a small receiver. He’s incapable of making that block. He‘s listed at 5’11” and 173lbs, and might be smaller than that. Why was he even on the field to make that block?

 

[prime]

You're right.

I think what we've learned about Fields is the difference between good and great. If he was great, despite the dysfunction, bad play calling, bad Wrs outside of Moore...they'd still win games.

Fields can probably be really good on a really good team. However, as of now he cant make up mistakes or overcome team mistakes.
I made the Lamar comparison, but thats the difference. Lamar is far more twitchy (mentally and somewhat physically) and it saves a couple plays to win games.

It might be best for both parties to split. Cause at this point it might be best for the BEARS to gamble on a QB that overcome the teams issues.

I disagree with QB that can overcome team issues I can’t remember a single quarterback that overcame bad coaching look at the mahomes now he has that idiot Matt Nagy calling plays and the offense isn’t the same ,the eagles offense doesn’t look the same without shane steichen that’s why fukking Jake browning can come in and look good because Zac Taylor is a great offensive play caller

 

[Rice N Beans]

how could you possibly watch that game and walk away finger pointing at the defense while absolving the offense?

I'm pointing to the 4th Q defensive coaching/callin/whatever. There's yesterday and many more games to look at with this same problem. Yesterday was super egregious since Flacco made nearly everything positive obsolete in 3 short 2.5 minute drives. How amazing the defense was spun into a loss because the coach decided to roll loose - again. ToP for the 4th wasn't lopsided either. Flacco had 200 yards in that Q alone, more than all other quarters combined.

I see no problem in calling out Flus' 4th Q defense that gets outscored nearly 50-7 or whatever it is and loses leads.

I am not absolving the offense as much as saying they over performed. They should have been shredded but kept it in order enough to hold a lead going into Q4. This was way more than expected going into the 4th. Again, I believe stats wise they had a better game on both sides of the ball until the 4th.