Y’all should be concerned about single men. Not single women.

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That’s not answering the question.

I said why do men hold tight to the idea? You’re explaining why they think women will be miserable. But my question is why do they relish in it? What do they gain gloating about how miserable women will be? Do they take the same pride in miserable old men?

Someone who understood already answered for you though.

There’s maybe 5 dudes at most on here who “relish” in that yet you act like it’s some widespread thing :dwillhuh:

There’s a reason the opinions of that small percentage of men has such a huge effect on y’all, because you know that’s your future and y’all trying to force yourself to accept it :unimpressed:

The whole premise of y’all argument is women would rather be alone than settle for men you don’t want but the fact you end up this way means the men you wanted wouldn’t settle for you. That’s where the underlying bitterness and passive aggressiveness comes from.

You so busy shaming men for not being up to standard and mad women won’t lower their standards for them while completely overlooking the fact you want men who can do better than you to lower their standards as well. They don’t and y’all end up having to cope with finding companionship in y’all homegirls and pretending you’re happy with that.
 

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One poster is already spot on about the evidence in OP, which is it's unfair to compare past generations with people today who have grown up with the internet, so it's hard to say that those stats will be our future. And then I think about the context of the statement "single and old" how old are we specifically talking? I know some older men who are miserable and single, but the correlation isn't they're single, so they're miserable. These men are naturally miserable and have up-tight personalities that no one (women, family, friends) wants to be around. And for women, I know some that are crazy with 1000 animals to take the place of a family.

Even though I'm supposed to, I never correlated the statement "alone and bitter" with the ages 50 and up. Males and females seem to be content with that area in their life by the time they're that old, and I always feel like this thinking applies to the 20-40s crowd.

The ones on social media thirsting while shytting on men are the unhappy single women in their 30s and 40s that got all that partying out the way, looking for someone to settle with now but can't find anyone. And the ones doing incel shyt are the men in their 20s and 30s because they never got any ass anyways.

I think the coli, and most men, who use the rhetoric "women will be alone and unhappy" are talking about women (30s up till 50s) and not someone who is basically done with life.
And the thinking that men win when they get older if they're still single only applies to the men in their 30s and 40s who have done shyt with their life and now can choose from a wide range while the women in their 30s and 40s are being overlooked for the younger ones.

Who knows how we will be when we're truly old old.
 

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It’s psychological copium and the hope that women will be punished for not falling in line with how they think women should live their lives. The idea that some men feel like women should be punished or the hope that women will hit a wall or die in a raging explosion of sadness because they didn’t choose men they weren’t attracted to in their youth is just a control mechanism some men are obsessed with.:mjlol:

In the past, the old cat lady trope was also a scare tactic used to push women into relationships whether they benefitted them or not.

The deflections, defensiveness, personal attacks just prove that this is a sore point for many men.
And it isn’t just men of past generations either.
There are massive studies that specifically targeted the health and well-being of men in isolation and in loneliness. Dudes need to put aside their pride, stop trying to deflect to women and worry about themselves.
The High Cost of Men's Loneliness


https://independent-age-assets.s3.e...-the-emerging-crisis-for-older-men-report.pdf


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hard to pretend like women are lying in these studies because their actions are matching their words. Not only are they reporting more satisfaction, but many aren’t seeking remarriage and divorce is initiated 70% of the time by women
even past retirement age.
None of this means women don’t want male companionship because ultimately they do. But it means they are less willing to put up with anything simply to be able to say they have a man.

The real way men need to combat this isn’t to try and browbeat women into relationships with scare tactics, or take refuge in echo chambers or be bitter. They need to focus on developing better social skills, maintaining closer connections to family and children and BOTH men AND women need to focus on having enough money to retire well because that’s one of the largest variables in this crisis.
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I’ll tell you like I told OP, y’all make this seem like some widespread phenomenon when it’s a small percentage of men who talk about women hitting the wall and dying lonely or whatever other nonsense you spew in every single dating thread.

For every post you see from men saying that, there’s at least 5 giving props to a fine middle aged women saying “black dont crack”. How such and such is 50 and look better than women half her age. But you’d rather focus on the small minority of men who say the things your diatribes are based on.

Y’all project your own lack of success with dating/marriage on to men and ironically the men y’all say this about are your equals in terms of attractiveness/luck with the opposite sex.
 

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Men when they get older, always had that option to take their social security check, move overseas, get a pretty girl, and live like a king, compared to staying in the states. If he had a nice retirement pension to compliment his social security check, he would really live like a king. Most of them consider a country in South America, or the country Ghana. This is probably why you don't hear as much concern about their status during retirement age. But one of the biggest draw backs is, a lot of brothers have to spend their youthful years working jobs that pay them cash under the table (moving furniture, construction laborer, seasonal work, etc...). So they wound up not being able to collect social security when they reach the minimum age requirement. And if they try to collect, they'll get caught. These are the single men we should be concerned about the most when they get older. They usually either had drug problems, a felony, or just didn't plan for the future, and lived only for today. When these brothers get older, they wound up living off of older women. something like that dude who was spanking Baby Boys mother, while he takes care of the house, and does the cooking. For them, it's either that, or they face a big possibility of being homeless later on. My brother use to call them type men, Hazel. And if they were never good with women, it might look even worst.

Women on the other hand, are more fearful of taking their social security or retirement income, and living in a so-called third world country, and rather stay in here in the states because of the safety nets. I guess they'd rather have who my brother would call Hazel, than live over there.
 
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This is female thinking.

Fucc “help”.
Men have social ties and all of that, but we handle our hard times by ourselves for the most part
because we know nobody else can really pull ourselves through them - that’s even if they care...

Do you think being emotionally walled off qualifies you to be an effective leader to a woman and possibly children? You'd be at the helm of the two most emotional groups talking about you're handling hard times by yourself. This is how men start to resent and eventually abandon their families, because they look at them as just more problems instead of the support necessary to get through them.
 

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OP struck a nerve in this thread you can tell how some deflected and tried to investigate was OP on a alt account or not. He’s not saying men are bad, he’s just saying a lot of men especially on here worrying about the wrong things.

Loneliness in the men community is real and can have a negative effect.

No girlfriend/wife, barely any friends, no social life. So all these guys know is work, and come home. That ain’t healthy

Exactly. The weird responses make you wonder about the people on this site.
 

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Plus women say "get your clout up and step up your mouthpiece" when even that ain't taught properlty to young dudes anymore. That "bootstraps" method always been a flawed concept that nowadays is an 85% failure rate, which is why incel armies are growing (Afghanistan).

In all honesty breh, social skills, body language, charisma etc are not things that can be taught

It was skills people naturally developed. It’s lacking nowadays because people socialize way more online than in person. That led to the social awkwardness that made these traits more rare.

Main thing standing in a man’s way is his own fear of rejection. The fact dudes want to know what’s the perfect way to talk and act to have a sure fire way to bag women is rooted in the fear of rejection. Wanting to know how to have a damn near 100% success rate is rooted in the fear of rejection.
 

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I’ll tell you like I told OP, y’all make this seem like some widespread phenomenon when it’s a small percentage of men who talk about women hitting the wall and dying lonely or whatever other nonsense you spew in every single dating thread.

For every post you see from men saying that, there’s at least 5 giving props to a fine middle aged women saying “black dont crack”. How such and such is 50 and look better than women half her age. But you’d rather focus on the small minority of men who say the things your diatribes are based on.

Y’all project your own lack of success with dating/marriage on to men and ironically the men y’all say this about are your equals in terms of attractiveness/luck with the opposite sex.

Yeah, looks cannot replace actual youth, and thats a catch 22 on black women aging well, but not having foresight on locking down a man while they are actually young.
 
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