Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
lets remember the film is only set in 1991 . the start of the Jim Lee run .... the phoenix saga is actually from the 80s.... but I assume we gonna get pieces of the animated saga for this
X-Men: Dark Phoenix Official Thread (2018)
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lets remember the film is only set in 1991 . the start of the Jim Lee run .... the phoenix saga is actually from the 80s.... but I assume we gonna get pieces of the animated saga for this
Don't assume anything when it comes to animated series. A lot of times they do the easy work for these cats but they don't pull from them. Spider man 3 laid out the perfect way to do the black costume shyt...Sam wanted to to his own thing. Also, these cartoons are touch stones for us but a lot of these directors were already in college or in their late 20s when that shyt was popping off so they don't even think of them when they think of the x men.
If anything, setting it in 91 gives you a visual template and inspires you to probably do the Lee era costumes (which have popped up in recent x men comics) but the actual story itself will still be adapted from the comics
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
I agree .. Apocalype's ending set up the phoenix saga ... but she been with the team what a month .... and with this in 91 and apocalypse 84 .. that's 7 years of off screen phoenix / jean antics that we must have for backstory...
and if she was still around after apocalypse what event gonna happen for he to sacrifice herself cause that really wasn't a sacrifice
the fact that you have to "guess" what theyre gonna do or try to do is BAD!
they cant (for whatever reason) just follow the source material. and its sad
but im on my "Disney Whining Whatever" shyt cause I want legit comic book fliks!
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
I really was hoping the black costume would span 2 films ... the later 45 minutes of film 1 he's in the suit like this is dope and the end scene he's like this suit aint healty... then the beginning 30-45 of film 2 he's trying to get it off but cant
No clue. Much like x men comics, i don't get caught up in the continuity of the x men movies. I refuse to go cross eyed. They changed the past and the future already by going back in time so basically everything that happens now has happened differently. They don't have to lead up to the 2000 flick anymore because shyt is different...i think
Lefty Gunz
Superstar
They're really doing a storyline they already did
I'd be fukking pissed if the new Batman movie was based on Knightfall
I'd be fukking pissed if the new Batman movie was based on Knightfall
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
the fact that you have to "guess" what theyre gonna do or try to do is BAD!
they cant (for whatever reason) just follow the source material. and its sad
but im on my "Disney Whining Whatever" shyt cause I want legit comic book fliks!
I only assumed that because Mr singer expressed his love for the Animated series.. so I assume he would use those stories/plot points more so than the comic book ... but technically both the comics and show would be "source" material
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
No clue. Much like x men comics, i don't get caught up in the continuity of the x men movies. I refuse to go cross eyed. They changed the past and the future already by going back in time so basically everything that happens now has happened differently. They don't have to lead up to the 2000 flick anymore because shyt is different...i think
im talking this new trilogy .. not the old movies...
in Apocalypse they just found Jean .. I say it was '84 because they went to see return of the jedi in theaters .. (I think it was rotj)... if this new film is set in 91 .. that's 7 years after the events of Apocalypse... this has nothing to do with the old movies or timelines... its about what place these 3 ... now 4 films are in a "place"
Days of Future Piff
Superstar
What really saddens me about Apocalypse is that it should have been awesome. Had it been less bloated and focused on the right characters (Storm, Cyclops), it could have crushed the buildings. An X-men movie set in the actual 1980s should be a classic in every sense of the word. You even have a character who literally wears their sunglasses at night 
I know a lot of cats like to romanticize the 90's because the cartoon was hot, but real talk, the late 70's/early 80s were always the true golden age of the X-men.
I'm really worried about this new Dark Phoenix flick. I don't think they've learned their lesson from Apocalypse, but I'd like to be wrong on this. And I'm not even saying they have to give the rights back to Disney.
I know a lot of cats like to romanticize the 90's because the cartoon was hot, but real talk, the late 70's/early 80s were always the true golden age of the X-men.
I'm really worried about this new Dark Phoenix flick. I don't think they've learned their lesson from Apocalypse, but I'd like to be wrong on this. And I'm not even saying they have to give the rights back to Disney.
Yeah you're right. So yeah you gotta fill in 7 years worth of backstory, which can be done but you gotta be really talented to pull it off and this is a first time dude...idk if he's got the chops
We''ll see
Im can make the PERFECT X-Men script for everyone if I had the time
Its not hard
None of this is hard.
They make it hard!
Cause its Hollyweird!
I recently just watched a movie where HIGHLY capable and skilled asian warriors coulda smashed the shyt out some lame ass lizards.
But needed Matt fukkin Damon to save them!
Lets stop playing dumb here ppl
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
We''ll see
Im can make the PERFECT X-Men script for everyone if I had the time
Its not hard
None of this is hard.
They make it hard!
Cause its Hollyweird!
I recently just watched a movie where HIGHLY capable and skilled asian warriors coulda smashed the shyt out some lame ass lizards.
But needed Matt fukkin Damon to save them!
Lets stop playing dumb here ppl
now we on a topic I have questions about ...
what drives a good movie ... the writer or the director .... every talking about patty on WW ... because its her vision .. but what about the script... same goes for whenever big name directors are on something...
can a director turn a lousy script into a good movie and can they destroy a great script....
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Aren't scripts just treated as guidelines a lot of times? I think writers are considered last.
Scenes are changed while shooting, scenes are left out due to editing, and of course producers have a say pre-production, during shooting and post.
Yup both ways. A great director can elevate a meh script or even do their own rewrites on it and a bad director can take something great on paper and just make it crappy. Patty gets the props on WW because she collaborated with her writer along with Snyder, and this is the vision they carved out. So while its not completely on par with what the homie James Gunn does with guardians or Tarantino where they write it and direct it, they still oversee every aspect of the project. Much like Sam Mendes gets credit for what he did on Skyfall even though he didn't write it. He helped shape the script and the story ideas in the beginning and worked with the team to get it to where he wanted it.