X-MEN Apocalypse (Official Thread)

[Mowgli]

This shyt is going to be a disaster

 

[Hi!]

This shyt is going to be a disaster

 

[Jazzy B.]

An Age Of Apocalypse movie series would be fukkin incredible if Fox had the balls to do it....and do it RIGHT!!!!!

shyt, kill Xavier off after this movie and do it!!!!!

A live action trilogy would have been


Apocalypse requires a trilogy or at the very least two films. You can't throw in all of the backstory, the character taking over the world, ruling for a period/age and then being usurped all in one film ,

This is going to be like The Dark Knight Rises all over again, a story and character that would have been better at two parts as opposed to one .

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Yeah, because it's not as if Fox dropped a Marvel movie a month ago that was embraced by pretty much everyone including the mythical Marvel stans...

... or was there?

Lets examine this since you desperately seek my attention.

First let me give you some fatherly advice since yours was absent,evidenced by your pleb thought process and homosexuality.

Sticking feathers up your ass doesnt make you a chicken.so,when you say mythical marvel stan,you cant just say they dont exist while being one yourself.


Lets break this down. I bring up that marvel fans nitpick other comic films to death while fellating marvel films.

Lets start with you,the stan in denial.


We will use deadpool first.


Heres you

It really doesn't. It just parodies clichés so what happens is that the feebler mind tricks itself into thinking that because it is self aware of its clichés, it must be better than clichés.

I just got back from it, spoiler-free review/thoughts.

Let me cut right to the chase and say that when the movie is on point, it's seriously on fukking point, but at the same time pretty much every fear I had based on the trailers were true as well. Which literally signifies a strong divide in the movie itself. All the Deadpool scenes are gold, pure grade A gold, and are true to the character in every single way. On the other hand the origin part of the movie (told in fragments throughout the Deadpool in action parts) is so mishandled it hurts. They took every bit of edge or tragedy out of the character (he's a merc who only hurts 'bad guys', which comes off so goddamn lame the way it's presented) and they pretty much already make him a one-liner spouting jokey guy from the start, so there's no character arc either (unless you consider 'I'm scared of going back to the woman of my dreams who loves me with all my heart because I'm ugly now' a fukking character arc). The only saving grace is that even in those completely flat parts at least the comedy they choose as an alternative works, so it's not as unbearable as it could've been. And when I say that, I mean there are parts that, if not for the comedy, would be bordering on Wolverine Origins levels of unbearable.

Also, for the life of me I can't understand why they would remove ALL Weapon X/Wolverine references from his origin. You got the fukking rights, you actually use X-Men in the movie but you leave that out? In the comics he joined Weapon X because they were experimenting with Wolverine's healing factor so his cancer could be cured. Here they're just randomly trying to awaken the latent mutant genes every person has which has no guarantee he gains a power that cures his cancer, which pretty much kills every bit of logic of him joining, and it makes the fact that he actually gets a power that cures his cancer come off as total convenience. There's something similar going on with the Colossus/Negasonic Teenage Warhead scenes. Early on they establish very clearly that the X-Men are familiar with Deadpool and have tried to get him to come to Xavier's school and are still keeping track of him, but when the origin story catches up to the current events, there is very clearly no point whatsoever where this has happened, which leaves a pretty big consistency gap, or pretty much forces you to make up your own scenario where this could have happened.

So yeah, there's some major story issues and I know a lot of people are gonna brush over that shyt because they're gonna be all like 'LOL Deadpool!' but there's simply no reason that they couldn't have fixed those issues, so fukk that. But again, the actual Deadpool-in-character scenes do work like a goddamn charm and for the most part are a pure riot. Occasionally there's the odd joke that doesn't work but with spitfire delivery of jokes you'll find yourself laughing quickly enough again. I almost want to spoil some of the jokes so bad because they're so goddamn great but I won't, so I'll just say that whatever references to the X-universe there are in the movie are absolutely brilliant. Overall I'd give it a strong 3.5/5, but since it's a February release and @FlyRy believes that the month of release can dictate the quality of a movie, I'll give it a 1.5/5 instead.

But in all seriousness, it's a 3.5/5 out of 5. Alright, now I'm going to spoil some jokes below.

Spoiler: Seriously, don't click this unless you've seen the movie!

'Come on, time to go see the professor.'
'Which one, McAvoy or Stewart? These timelines are so confusing.'



'I had the Liam Neeson nightmare. I kidnapped his daughter and he wasn't having it...
... Seriously, they made three of those movies, at some point you have to wonder if he's just a bad parent.'



'You know, for a mansion this size isn't it weird that it's always just the two of you around? You would almost think the studio didn't have the money for another X-Man.'

Oh look,a near universally praised film,and you are....nitpicking it to death


Now you might say,well you gave it props to so its fine


Now lets see you review age of ultron

Sitting in the theater looking at the credits right now. It is fukking fantastic. A capital fukking fantastic in fact. So much it doesn't even need the word fantastic, just a capital fukking. It's fukkING, brehs!

Okay, so now that I've returned to the crib, let's expand on that previous post, lol. Mostly SPOILER FREE I should add.

I'm not sure where to start, so let me start by saying the theater fukked up and the movie began with the theater background music still on and no movie audio, so people started shouting and screaming (but none of them bothered to get up and actually tell an usher) while the movie was playing with a Madonna soundtrack. Anyway, what little glimpses I saw as I tried to avert my eyes pretty much set the tone, because the movie starts with all-out action. And it's goddamn great all-out action. As I've said in my mid-marathon post, I thought the first half of the original movie (pretty much up until the point they're all gathered together on the SHIELD carrier) is slow, ugly looking tv-production level film making. Like they knew the team had to get together and it needed some time but no one was invested in actually making it interesting cinema. This one hits it off right from the start and just keeps going. It feels so goddamn big and every action sequence builds on the one before it, it's just crazy.

The plot moves at a ridiculous pace as well, mostly because so much stuff happens. I myself wouldn't say it's convoluted as some early reports claimed but I can see how it might seem that way to people who aren't familiar with comics and don't know all these characters, because it basically goes from Hydra to Maximoffs to Ultron to Klaw to Maximoffs to Ultron to Vision and then I looked at my watch in a quiet moment and there was still an hour to go! It's go with the flow or drown. The movie does occasionally slow down to give us some more in-depth character moments, with heavy focus on Barton (unexpected angle) and the Natasha/Banner romance. That last part was probably my biggest issue with the movie, it felt kinda forced and the comic book guy in me was really bothered that there was just no mention of Betty Ross or anything. Like they basically have Banner in here as a character with no supporting cast or life of his own outside of the Avengers.

Another thing that threw me off initially was Ultron's personality, specifically the fact that it came with a lot of humor. It felt super weird but it starts to make sense when they build on the fact that Ultron's personality is basically a take on Stark's, so he has that same kind of wittiness to his speech, but with a hint of alienation to it as he has a dry, detached way of communicating his evil antics. This actually helped make Ultron more interesting as the movie went on, and despite the humor he still came off as extremely threatening with Spader delivering tenfold with the voice acting.

And as expected after the first Avengers movie, it's chock full off of banter. The heroes banter, Ultron and the Maximoffs banter, everybody banters. Even Baron Strucker banters (although I wasn't a fan of that one), but it all stays true to the characters and that's why it works. One of the movie's running jokes is Cap checking Stark on his use of bad language which has the whole team cracking jokes about him being "old fashioned" and stuff. Meanwhile the fan service is all-time level high. I'm sure we all know about the scene where the team tries to lift Mjölnir but I guarantee it's even better in the movie. It's even better though when later in that movie it turns out that scene was in there for a specific reason and one of the movie's biggest 'marking out' moments happened. Meanwhile mid-action everybody is constantly double teaming moves and Thor and Cap especially got a couple of classics in store that will make you do full on banderas-smilies in the audience.

There's one thing I pretty much like to expand on, but before that I have to address another 'issue', which is the inclusion of a character that's clearly built around the Asian market. It's not Transformers 3 bad with the Asian pandering because she actually does play a vital part in the story, but it's still noticeable pandering.

Now to the last part, which may be the most important part of them all, which ties into the big discussion we've been having all week again, the MoS destruction argument. Because in every single action scene in the movie, every. single. one. the Avengers show concern in protecting innocent lives. They show so much damn concern it made me want to shed a tear. Even if they can't control all the destruction or the damage, they're constantly going out of their way to rescue people. Hell, a huge part of the final half hour battle is devoted on evacuating and saving as many people as they can from the war zone. It was such a consistent aspect of every action scene that it really felt like a direct response to DC/WB, and there's one scene that was definitely a direct jab. At some point Cap almost fails to save someone but Thor kicks in with the assist and Cap manages to save the woman after all to his great relief. One of Ultron's bots then comes at Cap like "You really think you can save them all?" and issues some threat I can't remember the exact words to but Cap just smashes the thing to pieces, throws it over the edge and goes "What was that, you didn't finish your sentence!" and you can just feel the burn that Snyder and Goyer and all the WB studio heads are going to feel when they see that shyt.

So in the end, yeah, I fukking loved it. It's not perfect and once the adrenaline and hype disappears I'll probably end up being a bit more critical with some of the issues I had (another one that I just thought of is that Marvel shows additional lack of longevity planning with certain character deaths, that like a certain character's death in Daredevil, feels like they really aren't thinking as long term as they like you to believe they are), but goddamn it if this movie doesn't deliver on the entertainment from the opening to the end.

Talk about shedding a tear and bringing up man of steel talk about wb and snyder and goyer "feeling the burn" from a mediocre ass film like age of ultron

You not a stan though right


Now lets see one of your latest posts in the civil war thread

Can't wait for this movie to wash the taste of Bull v shyt out of the theater.

You not a stan though right?

Keep sticking those feathers up your ass though

I didnt even need to bring up your 5 million posts about man of steel. Or the fact you got a shyt ton of posts in the batman v superman thread all bytching and complaining and the movie aint even out yet

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Lets examine anither "mythical marvel stan" for fun

My prediction for this movie is that expectations will be so low that even if it's meh people will be satisfied.

So coming off 2 great x men films in a row expectations are going to be low makes no sense but okay

This will probably be the most disappointing comic book movie of the year.

So within a couple months it went from expectations are low to its going to be disappointing


Its almost like marvel stans talk out of their ass constantly and are complete hypocrites that hold other comic films to standards they dont hold marvel films too


I could spend 5 months everyday digging up dozens of marvel stans contradicting themselves and being fakkits

 

[MAGNETO.]

An Age Of Apocalypse movie series would be fukkin incredible if Fox had the balls to do it....and do it RIGHT!!!!!

shyt, kill Xavier off after this movie and do it!!!!!

OH LAWWWWWWWWWD

 

[BXKingPin82]

Lets examine anither "mythical marvel stan" for fun


So coming off 2 great x men films in a row expectations are going to be low makes no sense but okay


So within a couple months it went from expectations are low to its going to be disappointing


Its almost like marvel stans talk out of their ass constantly and are complete hypocrites that hold other comic films to standards they dont hold marvel films too


I could spend 5 months everyday digging up dozens of marvel stans contradicting themselves and being fakkits

The fukk is wrong with you?!

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

The fukk is wrong with you?!

Dont be mad because marvel stans cant even touch the rim let alone dunk

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

im just done at how they got my man nightcrawler lookin like a emo high school junior who is the lead singer for the band "Pretty Castle"

 

[BXKingPin82]

Dont be mad because marvel stans cant even touch the rim let alone dunk

You takin this shyt a lil TOO serious

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The fukk is wrong with you?!

I was wondering if he'd hit you up next

 

[Bini Knight]

Lets examine this since you desperately seek my attention.

First let me give you some fatherly advice since yours was absent,evidenced by your pleb thought process and homosexuality.

Sticking feathers up your ass doesnt make you a chicken.so,when you say mythical marvel stan,you cant just say they dont exist while being one yourself.


Lets break this down. I bring up that marvel fans nitpick other comic films to death while fellating marvel films.

Lets start with you,the stan in denial.


We will use deadpool first.


Heres you







Oh look,a near universally praised film,and you are....nitpicking it to death


Now you might say,well you gave it props to so its fine


Now lets see you review age of ultron







Talk about shedding a tear and bringing up man of steel talk about wb and snyder and goyer "feeling the burn" from a mediocre ass film like age of ultron

You not a stan though right


Now lets see one of your latest posts in the civil war thread



You not a stan though right?

Keep sticking those feathers up your ass though

I didnt even need to bring up your 5 million posts about man of steel. Or the fact you got a shyt ton of posts in the batman v superman thread all bytching and complaining and the movie aint even out yet

.....yall stans on both sides are dedicated

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

You takin this shyt a lil TOO serious

Its not my fault marvel is for cacs and you relate to cac humor breh.

Maybe you should watch jack ass deleted scenes.


Capsicle

Praise fukking ant man brehs

 

[Norrin Radd]

Its not my fault marvel is for cacs and you relate to cac humor breh.

Maybe you should watch jack ass deleted scenes.


Capsicle

Praise fukking ant man brehs

Marvel stay on your mind breh

 

[Animal House]

big xmen fan but wtf is this? im not expecting it to be like the comic but damn this looks all types of garbage. i really hope im wrong but why couldn't the movie focus on mutants like gambit, summers, nightcrwaler ect..

prof x again

mystique