Wut da blood clot??: The Official Miami Heat 2015-16 Offseason Thread

FAH1223

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He's putting faith in the young guys. I'm with it. I just want dragic gone at some point this season. That opens up room for a max guy and then some

Dragic is your only playmaker in the half court

If the floor is spread, he's going to have a very good season as he did in 2013-2014.

Bosh retiring and being medically off the cap will open up your cap space.
 

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Dragic is your only playmaker in the half court

If the floor is spread, he's going to have a very good season as he did in 2013-2014.

Bosh retiring and being medically off the cap will open up your cap space.
Bosh being gone would mean tank city. the best players available would be the ones we had last year. Cap space would be useless.
 

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@FAH1223 Wade was our only special playmaker. Dragic is adequate at best at creating good shots, and he's terrible at finding the big on a roll to the rim.

the majority of our guards/forwards are more drive and kick were as wade could do both plus score.

@Weedizmedicine Heat keep doing this thing where its wait until next free agency and get a "big name" but the big names are who exactly? Westbrook and Blake Griffin? what are the odds you get Westbrook? how is a Griffin/Whiteside frontline gonna work? especially with no CP3 type PG to get them the ball?
 

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I havent even been posting cause its the same cats that been PMS'ing for 2 weeks now. As bad as yall think it is, this wasnt even a nuclear offseason. kept whiteside, retained all our young talent, filling the gaps as best they can with a couple shooters and nice young rotation big Willie Reed, who a lot of ppl wanted last summer. I'm remembering all the posts that said this is a 25 win team :heh:

These are some of the same nikkas who were having panic attacks during the big three era after loss in the regular season.
 

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Whiteside Reed Haslem
Bosh Williams McRoberts Johnson
Ellington Winslow Babit
Richardson Johnson McGruder
Dragic Weber


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Way too early but...


1. Harry Giles | PF | Duke | 6’10”, 222 | Freshman

You've probably heard of Harry Giles by now, so you probably also know that his knees will likely be the main reason he is—or isn’t—in the top spot a year or so from now. Giles tore the ACL and MCL in his left knee between his freshman and sophomore years, then partially tore his right ACL back in November. He’s a tremendous talent and productive player on the inside. He boasts a 7’3” wingspan and 9’1” standing reach, and there’s reason for optimism that he’ll become an elite rebounder and finisher. If his agility and explosion return to what they were, he should be just fine. His jump shot also has to improve a bit if Giles is to become a star. For now, his health is a bit of a wait–and–see situation. And rest assured, all eyes will be on Duke.

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2. Josh Jackson | G/F | Kansas | 6’8”, 203 | Freshman

With his high-level defensive ability and diverse skillset, Jackson has a case to be No. 1 overall. For what it’s worth, he’s the best high school perimeter defender I’ve evaluated over the past five years. He’s at his best in transition as a scorer and passer and has developed a workable mid-range game. His jump shot mechanics, however, are a work in progress. Jackson can fall into spells of playing out of control, and his shot selection and turnovers suffer as a result. Still, if it all comes together, you’re looking at a legitimate two-way piece who can guard four positions. One caveat: he’s quite old for his class and will turn 20 next February.

3. Markelle Fultz | PG | Washington | 6’5”, 186 | Freshman

Fultz’s huge senior year had NBA heads on a swivel, and with his size, savvy and scoring ability, he’ll be an easy player to fall in love with at Washington. He’ll enter college far more polished than either Marquese Chriss or Dejounte Murray did as Huskies. Also, consider the fact he’s on the younger side for his class (he turned 18 at the end of May). He’s displayed a mature, smooth game, the ability to make perimeter shots and a quiet confidence that shone through in various settings. There are always alpha dogs in each high school class, and Fultz looked like one of them at the Jordan Brand Classic. This is a player to get excited about.

4. Jayson Tatum | G/F | Duke | 6’8”, 204 | Freshman

With good measurements and wide set of offensive skills, Tatum is a very good bet to produce at a high level from the outset of his college career. He’s pretty polished and has two-way tools. He does, however, look for his own shot a bit too much at times and loves to settle for tough mid-range shots rather than attack the basket all the way. His three-point shooting isn’t where it needs to be yet. Tatum has potential to be a uniquely versatile player, but will need to eliminate some bad habits at Duke and show more commitment to team basketball to maximize his stock.

5. Frank Ntilikina | PG | Strasbourg (France) | 6’5”, 170 | 17 years old

One of the stars of the prestigious annual Basketball Without Borders camp at All-Star Weekend, Ntilikina packs some prodigious pure point guard skills into an impressive frame and will likely be one of the youngest players in next year’s class. He’s a pass-first player with natural instincts and strong defensive ability. His streaky jump shot will be the biggest determinant of where his stock ends up.

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6. Malik Monk | G | Kentucky | 6’4”, 185 | Freshman

First and foremost, Monk is among the truly elite in terms of athletic ability. His brother Marcus starred at wide receiver and also played basketball at Arkansas, and Malik is capable of some jaw-dropping things on a basketball court. He will have to produce enough at Kentucky to play himself into this range, but nobody thought Jamal Murray was a top–10 pick entering last season, and look where we are. Monk’s physical tools give him as high a ceiling as anyone, and he has a real nose for scoring the basketball. He’s improved some as a distance shooter. He will want to rein his offensive freelancing in a bit within Kentucky’s concept. As a combo guard with real star potential, he bears watching closely.

7. Ivan Rabb | F/C | California | 6’10”, 215 | Sophomore

Pulling out of the 2015 draft may have been a good decision for Rabb, who would have been drafted in the 10–20 range. With another year to develop his body and an opportunity to play a focal role in Cal’s offense, his stock could creep a bit higher. After averaging 12.5 points and 8.7 rebounds as a freshman, he should receive ample opportunity to develop his back to the basket game, polish his jumper and establish a greater defensive presence. The upside is very much there.

8. Edrice “Bam” Adebayo | F/C | Kentucky | 6’9”, 225 | Freshman

Adebayo profiles as a player in the mold of Tristan Thompson. His body, athleticism, competitive desire and rebounding ability are all very enticing, but his offensive skills have yet to truly catch up. He has made improvements in those areas, though, and will be productive at Kentucky by simply cleaning up for his star teammates around the basket. Adebayo could be an elite-level energy big if all breaks well. You don’t have to watch him play for long to see the appeal.

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9. Dennis Smith | PG | NC State | 6’2”, 160 | Freshman

This draft appears to have what the last one sorely lacked in high-end point guard talent, Smith being another supremely athletic guard with a high long-term outlook. He’s coming off a torn ACL and will have to prove he’s healthy next season, but if his explosiveness remains and he puts together a strong season, he could climb here. His decision-making can be questionable, and he’s a score-first guy. Given his slight frame, inconsistent three-point shot and injury concerns, envisioning him barreling into the NBA paint every night is a bit troubling. His physical profile alone offers tons of room to grow, and will convince someone to take a chance.



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10. Thomas Bryant | C | Indiana | 6’10”, 241 | Sophomore

After making strides at the end of last season, Bryant boasted top–20 upside but opted to stay in Bloomington another year. He would have been quite young for his class had he gone, and a consistent year for the Hoosiers would benefit his stock. Bryant has a 7’5” wingspan and has already improved running the floor and as a finisher. If he can parlay his frame into improvement as a rim protector, it’ll give him a real boost.

11. De’Aaron Fox | PG | Kentucky | 6’4”, 171 | Freshman

Fox enters college ready-made to produce and run the show at Kentucky. John Calipari has a pretty good history with those types of guys translating to the NBA. With solid size and impressive speed and change-of-direction, Fox is already a very good defender, showing the instincts to deflect passes and a willingness to hound ballhandlers early in his high school career. He’s also accomplished as a playmaker and ball-handler. It’s not clear what parts of his scoring are going to translate at the NBA level yet, but he’s got the pieces to help someone down the line.

12. Terrance Ferguson | SG | Undecided | 6’7”, 186 | Freshman

Reports have indicated Ferguson will play overseas next season and forgo college. If he can maintain enough pro visibility wherever he ends up, his shooting, bounce and defensive length make him a strong fit for the modern game. He’s streaky, has to improve off the dribble and add strength, but it’s easy to look at him and see a starting–caliber shooting guard.

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13. Isaiah Hartenstein | PF | Zalgiris (Lithuania) | 6’11”, 225 | 18

There are a ton of tools to like with Hartenstein, who grew up in the States (his father played at Oregon), moved to Germany and is bound for his first taste of high-level competition at Zalgiris. An athletic big who moves well on both sides of the ball, can put it on the deck and shoot the three, his skill set appears unique among bigs in this class. If he were an American entering college, there would likely be more buzz. Hartenstein needs to be coached at a high level and will at some point have to adjust to not being the lone star on his team. The necessary talent looks to be there there otherwise, and he just turned 18 in May.

14. Jonathan Isaac | SF | Florida State | 6’11”, 205 | Freshman

Strong shooting potential coupled with high-end size and length makes Isaac a definite prospect, but he requires more projection than some. He’s very slender and moves like a guy his size might off the dribble, which is to say he can have trouble getting downhill and creating his shot. This can render him a bit one-dimensional, and belies some useful athletic tools. Isaac is an older prospect and will be 20 entering his rookie year. Consistent college production will be paramount for his stock.


15. Lonzo Ball | PG | UCLA | 6’4”, 162 | Freshman

Ball could be one of the most divisive players in this class. He anchored an insanely effective high school offense that starred his two younger brothers and chucked three-pointers relentlessly. From watching Ball in that setting, his passing gifts and defensive potential were clear, but it was difficult to discern what parts of his game were hidden in the system. He’ll make unbelievable passes and deep threes, but owns a bizarre-looking jump shot and his skinny frame that leaves room for concern. UCLA should offer a better setting with which to assess his game, but right now he doesn’t look like a consistent NBA scorer. And that said, his draft stock will likely be otherwise tied to how far his special playmaking skills take him.


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fukk it tank for Jayson Tatum, Josh Jackson, or Lonzo Ball(who i think will end up being a top 3 pick).
 

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Even though it's Luke Babbit, the fact we gave the Pelicans their own pick back that we weren't going to get is a boss move.

We have a decent squad. It will definitely be an evaluation year for a lot of guys.
 

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So Heat gonna be bad,wont have to overpay Wade for 50 games,Bosh contract will be gone if he dont play this year (He wont)
Youll get into the lottery and have cap space next year when a ton of elite level guys will be available....

If yall wind up signing two big names next summer and a lottery pick and the Bulls miss the playoffs Riley will get the last laugh on everyone.

This was his plan all along,have one transition year clear the bad contracts retain Whitside and re load and if hes able to do it...hes a genius.
 

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Does anyone know what would happen to Bosh if his contract comes off the books in February, does he become a free agent?
 

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So Heat gonna be bad,wont have to overpay Wade for 50 games,Bosh contract will be gone if he dont play this year (He wont)
Youll get into the lottery and have cap space next year when a ton of elite level guys will be available....

If yall wind up signing two big names next summer and a lottery pick and the Bulls miss the playoffs Riley will get the last laugh on everyone.

This was his plan all along,have one transition year clear the bad contracts retain Whitside and re load and if hes able to do it...hes a genius.


My worry is Pat has lost his ability as a free agent recruiter after the bron and wade fallout
 
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