Shaquan aka meth is godbody!!
Wu-Tang Clan Docuseries ‘Of Mics and Men on Showtime(Available on Demand)
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I always find it funny how no one can ever tell you anything really informative about Mastah Killah after all these years.
Hes like the guy on the couch in Half Baked.
Hes like the guy on the couch in Half Baked.
They saw Divine last year. They had a meeting discussing the next Wu album and everyone was there, including Power & Divine. AND Divine was at their Coachella performance. They may not chop it up as often, but they definitely see one another.
Yea, they definitely see each other. Divine been at basically all of the promo events with them for this docu-series and the street naming on Staten Island.
Word. I said the same thing when i heard him talk with a british accent one sec, then another the next
It may have already been answered, but whats the track playing at the end of Episode 1 with Meth rapping using all thise different artists name in a rhyme??
Guvnor
Da Speculative Spectacle®
I kind of feel where U-God is coming from, RZA wanted to control shyt to the point where he didn't even want to let Ghostface take credit for the Wutang name. At the same time not many people wanted a U-God album and he didn't even want to take initiative to make one by himself without RZA's help.
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His ol' grumpy ass
He goes on to shyt on Sunz of Man and Killarmy and calling them wack yet those groups combined have several albums better than ANY U-God project
I fukks with U-God but he doesn't realize that there was absolutely no demand for a U-God project back then and he was almost universally thought of as the weakest member. The RZA slander here and in his book just reeks of extreme saltiness.
ig88
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See. One one hand i get rza and divine, but on other, ugod is right here. They diluted the brand for quick cashouts.
But i sorta think on otherside, thats hiw he helping guys eat. But i bet they made their 20%. Half members of killarmy way worse than ugod ever was.
Shyt the other groups held that W down. Plus Sunz of Man, Royal Fam, Killarmy are family..they were all around during 36 Chambers. I see him thinking Killarmy wack didn't stop him from jumping on their albums
Killarmy and Sunz of Man did not dilute the Wu brand. They actually made it stronger. Those early Killarmy and Sunz of Man albums were dope as fukk.
ig88
Bounty Hunter
Ending
“What the fukk those non descript nikkas ever do for us” - ghost
“It COST us” - vine
“WE lost” - ghost
They were good albums but they certainly did. Before 98 wutang was WUTANG. Post 98 its rza and the killah beez. Now people start getting tricked into buying albums with a w that arent really wutang. People thought the swarm was a wutang comp, went gold real quick. Slowly but surely member by member it was diluted. Rza had 10 great mcs and instead played with 40 good mcs. No other group has done this branding wise with so many people.
Rza barely even gave these groups production. Left it to 4th and true who were already doing wu solo albums. Priest even left sunz soon as he could which is why him and rza beefed in 99-00s. Think about how MANY wu projects released between 98-00. Very little with any rza work yet he ate off it all im sure.
Which album you think woulda been nicer tho. Killarmy album or true deck wu album with killarmy beats. Cuz if they got decks production it woulda been a 1 mic qlbum minus sin verses. Its carried by 4th.
What makes you think that Ghost and Vine were referring to Sunz of Man and Killarmy?
Killarmy and Sunz of Man absolutely strengthened the brand. They put out strong albums and dropping strong albums with that WU logo attached only helps the brand. U-God's meh debut hurt the brand more than Killarmy or Sunz of Man. And the blueprint of dropping affiliated artists albums under the umbrella has been followed by many groups to the point where it's an industry norm.
And what RZA barely producing on those albums have to do with anything?
And I don't recall Killah Priest and RZA ever having a beef. More lies from a poster who is known to lie. You still running around saying RZA was stealing nikkas beats and saying they were his?
It was the Wu affiliates that came much later (Northstar, Black Knights, Wu-Latino...), weak albums from the main members, the constant bickering and members not showing up to shows that hurt the Wu brand. To claim that Killarmy and Sunz of Man hurt the Wu brand is dumb as fukk. Killarmy, Sunz of Man, Killah Priest, La the Darkman, Wu-Syndicate, Killah Priest all helped that Wu brand and strengthened their image because of the quality music they put out.
ig88
Bounty Hunter
What makes you think that Ghost and Vine were referring to Sunz of Man and Killarmy?
Killarmy and Sunz of Man absolutely strengthened the brand. They put out strong albums and dropping strong albums with that WU logo attached only helps the brand. U-God's meh debut hurt the brand more than Killarmy or Sunz of Man. And the blueprint of dropping affiliated artists albums under the umbrella has been followed by many groups to the point where it's an industry norm.
And what RZA barely producing on those albums have to do with anything?
And I don't recall Killah Priest and RZA ever having a beef. More lies from a poster who is known to lie. You still running around saying RZA was stealing nikkas beats and saying they were his?
It was the Wu affiliates that came much later (Northstar, Black Knights, Wu-Latino...), weak albums from the main members, the constant bickering and members not showing up to shows that hurt the Wu brand. To claim that Killarmy and Sunz of Man hurt the Wu brand is dumb as fukk. Killarmy, Sunz of Man, Killah Priest, La the Darkman, Wu-Syndicate, Killah Priest all helped that Wu brand and strengthened their image because of the quality music they put out.
Cause they were ...
It started in 97 at a height. By 2002 it was over man. Idk what your getting at. All those records by all those guys literally dropped between 98-02 and that period had like 30 NON WUTANG albums with a W on it. People would say wu fell off not realizing they listening to some off brand shyt and casuals got tired of it. Buying wutang the swarm and getting remedy and cilvaringz and throwaways.
You and I are wu stans. The greater hip hop world DID NOT WANT THAT shyt. Im talking word on the street not hip hop nerds like us. The casual audience was NOT pumping killarmy and sunzz of man bro. That stuff hurt more than hot 97 ever did in tye mainstreams eyes. Every album sold less and less. Rza cashed the fukk out. Put every body on diff labels and ATE.
I love the ghostdog album. shyt coulda been liquid swords 2 tho and instead its northstar, black knights, superb, etc and a forgotten soundtrack. the only consistancy was the sound created by rza that he had dolled out to the labels... like ugod said odb told em “we rzas robots”
I fukk with the original killer bees but focusing on them, using the W, is like putting the dipset label on all those side dudes they had. People who bought diplomatic immunity 1 were NOT happy with 2.
Only album of the 40 they dropped that gets props like the original wu albums is killah priests first. Priest wasnt even a killerbee in 99 anymore.... none of the 99 killer bees were really the 95 ones... that type of brand replacement hurts the casual buyer.
I know a lotta people got dissapointed similar to me asking for dr dre the chronic and my aunt buying me doctor dre and ed lover...