Wu-Tang Clan Docuseries ‘Of Mics and Men on Showtime(Available on Demand)

[Danie84]

13, awaiing Wu-Tang Forever to drop Summer midnight with a line of folks outside Beat Steet

...16, W album release at Hammerstein Ballroom; WuGOATs Snoop Dogg the Building

Thank you GAWD for making me a 84 Baby/90s Kid

 

[Listen]

Breh, I legit remember when the video for Bring the Pain came out. That whole contact lense/ subway ride with that beat, and his voice which already stuck out in Wu.... you just new he was never going away.

 

[steadyrighteous]

Binged this shyt in one sitting.

Dope AF.

I didn’t think I’d watch the Hulu scripted show but after this I’ll be giving it a shot.

 

[nieman]

Look at it like this: how crazy is it that RZA let them out of their contracts for nothing? With no force, no litigation...nothing. Which one of his contemporary, or otherwise, label heads is doing that? Puffy? Russell Simmons? Suge? Baby? Most of the Wu were platinum and gold selling artists! shyt is wild if you think about. And they know it also. That's why they continue to work with RZA til this day. When Charlamagne asked Raekwon on his last Breakfast Club interview if RZA ever robbed him...even though at that point Rae and RZA relationship publicly looked as bad as it ever did...Rae adamantly said "NO".

AND to add on, up until recently, they had FREE use of the "W". FREE. Granted, they all helped build it, but it still belonged to RZA/Wu which they were no longer legally under..

 

[mson]

13, awaiing Wu-Tang Forever to drop Summer midnight with a line of folks outside Beat Steet

...16, W album release at Hammerstein Ballroom; WuGOATs Snoop Dogg the Building

84 Baby/90s Kids

Snoop performed?

 

[phonthought3000]

Look at it like this: how crazy is it that RZA let them out of their contracts for nothing? With no force, no litigation...nothing. Which one of his contemporary, or otherwise, label heads is doing that? Puffy? Russell Simmons? Suge? Baby? Most of the Wu were platinum and gold selling artists! shyt is wild if you think about. And they know it also. That's why they continue to work with RZA til this day. When Charlamagne asked Raekwon on his last Breakfast Club interview if RZA ever robbed him...even though at that point Rae and RZA relationship publicly looked as bad as it ever did...Rae adamantly said "NO".

The only other person I know who had a crew under them and when they decided to go their separate ways they let them go freely was Rico Wade with the Dungeon Family. When he had Kast and Goodie under him as their manager/production he let them keep all their publishing from the start and when they wanted to do their own thing let them go with no kick back or fight

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Finally finished the whole thing. I always knew it but it just confirmed that egos hurt the group. I can fully see cats like Meth and Rae on some superstar shyt becuz they actually really were. And Ghost was just a damn knucklehead


But I felt bad for U God. I can kinda see why he was salty. Masta Killa has every right to be too. How they gonna have a Cap album before them? But U God especially. It’s crazy his name has been in the limelight more over the past year than ever before

That ODB shyt was sad. He truly was the glue and things never felt right after he passed. They felt forced. He was the heart and soul. Even tho it was funny learning he didn’t write his rhymes like that. Thinking back on his first album is funny as hell now becuz literally just recorded anything. But seeing him looking like a shell of himself walking around with Dame Dash after coming home almost made me choke up

Overall dope tho. I just wish they had touched more on their solo careers and all their affiliates like Killa Priest and them. But I’m sure there’s more documentaries to come

 

[Ziggiy]

Oh I'm sure there's definitely more to it than meets the eye, but it's still crazy to me that they would feel that they deserve all the profits for deals that RZA and Vine brokered for them and they agreed to. Ghost sued RZA one time because RZA took his fee for producing for Ghost...the industry standard cut producers get for producing for an artist.

Ghost won that lawsuit though. So it couldn’t have been ALL the Clan members just hating on RZA and Divine, though I believe RZA sincerely wants to do the right thing by the Clan, there’s got to be a moment where he was through listening to all the bickering and arguing and said “fukk it. Ima take care of ME on this one”....

 

[mson]

Wu-Tang Clan founding member U-God recently released his new memoir RAW: My Journey Into the Wu-Tang Clan. In a new excerpt published in Rolling Stone, the rapper criticizes Wu-Tang figurehead RZA for mismanaging the group, airing his frustrations with him over unequal show fees, use of the iconic “W” logo, control over the group’s creative process, and more. “Right now, it just looks like the Wu brothers are not on the same page, going at each other’s throats, missing shows, and all that. But, to me, it’s really years of BS catching up to RZA,” U-God writes. “See, he put his family in charge of shyt, and for years, we would go on the road but the money came up short.” Read the full excerpt.

In 2016, U-God filed a lawsuit against RZA and his brother, the group’s manager Mitchell “Divine” Diggs, alleging that he hadn’t seen royalties from the group’s music since 2010, among other financial concerns. However, his contention with RZA hasn’t stopped him from appearing alongside him for Wu-Tang Clan performances.

Wu-Tang’s U-God Criticizes RZA in New Memoir Excerpt | Pitchfork

 

[Deltron]

 

[nieman]

Ghost won that lawsuit though. So it couldn’t have been ALL the Clan members just hating on RZA and Divine, though I believe RZA sincerely wants to do the right thing by the Clan, there’s got to be a moment where he was through listening to all the bickering and arguing and said “fukk it. Ima take care of ME on this one”....

To this day, I still don't believe how RZA lost that one. I'm pretty sure it had something to do with each member having to pay Wu-dues tho.

Crazy thing is he still worked with RZA well after (12 Reasons)

 

[DANJ!]

But I felt bad for U God. I can kinda see why he was salty. Masta Killa has every right to be too. How they gonna have a Cap album before them? But U God especially. It’s crazy his name has been in the limelight more over the past year than ever before

I can't really say that tho'... there was no demand at the time for a U-God solo, nor for Masta... Cappadonna had gotten that 'guest star' billing on the Ironman album, and associated with Rae and Ghost, and had been on a hit song, so all that probably secured his solo deal and the expectation for him to deliver an album.

 

[DANJ!]

He got plenty on czarface, there was even a thread on here mocking using the same rhyme scheme often lately where he compares shyt to actors etc.

Deck is like Kiss he good for a killer 8-16 bars. He not the guy you want whole albums from. When he does whole bodies of work his weakness is evident. He can't get off smooth on hip hop and rnb like Rae, Ghost, Meth. He can't do the emotional verses Ghost can etc. Dude just a sharp shooter and that's a specialty with a limitation.

True. I remember this dude who swore to me Deck's shyt was gonna be the end-all be-all... I didn't deny it, but I wasn't ready to jump off the ledge with that. But you need dudes like that in the group atmosphere of course- he's one of like three Wu members who hasn't been embroiled in an ego/money war, probably because he never carried himself like this big star of the group, and fulfilled his role perfectly as the super-sharp lyricist of the crew.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

To this day, I still don't believe how RZA lost that one. I'm pretty sure it had something to do with each member having to pay Wu-dues tho.

Crazy thing is he still worked with RZA well after (12 Reasons)

he has a kid with rza's/divine's little sister.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I can't really say that tho'... there was no demand at the time for a U-God solo, nor for Masta... Cappadonna had gotten that 'guest star' billing on the Ironman album, and associated with Rae and Ghost, and had been on a hit song, so all that probably secured his solo deal and the expectation for him to deliver an album.

I feel you but there was a demand for anything Wu at the time. We even got Suns of Man and Killa Army before them