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Writer's and Actor's Strike 2023: Aaaaand Scene...That's a Wrap!
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Spidey Man
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Only problem with that point is that network TV is pivoting towards reality TV as it's cheaper to produce and will likely pivot even more due to the writer's strike. The money just isn't there in network TV like it used to be.
Plus cable will probably be all but non-existent in the next 5 years.
AquaCityBoy
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Audiences (and content) have evolved to the point where 90+ episodes of TV is too much of an investment for them. It used to be that 22 episodes was the standard length for a TV season. Now more and more shows, even on network TV, are getting cut to 13, and even 8-10 episodes. The only shows hitting the 22 episode numbers are all the police procedurals and medical dramas, and maybe the odd sitcom or cartoon.
Even if a show hits 90+ episodes, it'll probably take them nearly 10 years to do so as opposed to the 4-5 years it used to, and since those shows are likely to go on to streaming services than air in syndication on cable, that many episodes is actually diminishing returns.
I think the big push studios were making to get shows enough episodes for syndication in the late 2000s/early 2010s was the death of that model. All those Debmar-Mercury 10/90 sitcoms failed, and the ones that actually got to 100 episodes just got burned off and never aired on TV again. Sony tried hard to cut deals with networks to get enough episodes for syndication. Community bombed when it aired in syndication and on Comedy Central (but did very well on Netflix). Til Death was a show that was notorious for getting low ratings, but it kept getting renewed just so it could get the minimum number of episodes for syndication, only for it to still get low ratings and it hasn't aired on TV since.
There are only a few shows that can actually do well in syndication anymore, and there the same ones that have been airing for 20+ years: Fresh Prince, Star Trek The Next Generation, Friends, Law & Order, CSI. And throw in Big Bang Theory and Modern Family for more recent shows.
Even if a show hits 90+ episodes, it'll probably take them nearly 10 years to do so as opposed to the 4-5 years it used to, and since those shows are likely to go on to streaming services than air in syndication on cable, that many episodes is actually diminishing returns.
I think the big push studios were making to get shows enough episodes for syndication in the late 2000s/early 2010s was the death of that model. All those Debmar-Mercury 10/90 sitcoms failed, and the ones that actually got to 100 episodes just got burned off and never aired on TV again. Sony tried hard to cut deals with networks to get enough episodes for syndication. Community bombed when it aired in syndication and on Comedy Central (but did very well on Netflix). Til Death was a show that was notorious for getting low ratings, but it kept getting renewed just so it could get the minimum number of episodes for syndication, only for it to still get low ratings and it hasn't aired on TV since.
There are only a few shows that can actually do well in syndication anymore, and there the same ones that have been airing for 20+ years: Fresh Prince, Star Trek The Next Generation, Friends, Law & Order, CSI. And throw in Big Bang Theory and Modern Family for more recent shows.
Piff Perkins
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Martin confirms HOTD has been rewritten and re-drafted multiple times, so it doesn't sound like there will be any negative impacts on the show. With other shows if you just have the first draft of a script, it could be trash and need re-writes. So that's good to hear.
He also pointed out the last big strike he was involved in lasted 5 months. If that happens again here, the year will almost be done...
Martin let 2 hacks finish GOT while he was swimming in young p*ssy. i don't want to hear shyt from him, he got paid paid.
as i see it, AI can come with new shyt but as the other breh proved from that weird HOTD shyt it won't really work for existing shows.
as i see it, AI can come with new shyt but as the other breh proved from that weird HOTD shyt it won't really work for existing shows.
Duke Dixon
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@AquaCityBoy up a good point about the same shows being on syndication. I dont know how theres so many shows produced each year and its pretty much same shyt syndicated.
The shows I see are
2 Broke Girls
Big Bang Theory
Young Sheldon
Two and a Half Men
Law and Order SVU
Supernatural
Charmed
Friends
Seinfeld
The Office
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Southpark
George Lopez Show
And these shows run all day multiple hours Iof the same show. I don't know when cable TV got like that but it's terrible. I looked at my TV programming right now and IFC is showing Two and a Half Men for 5 more hours. How the hell is Two and a Half Men an Independent Film
The shows I see are
2 Broke Girls
Big Bang Theory
Young Sheldon
Two and a Half Men
Law and Order SVU
Supernatural
Charmed
Friends
Seinfeld
The Office
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Southpark
George Lopez Show
And these shows run all day multiple hours Iof the same show. I don't know when cable TV got like that but it's terrible. I looked at my TV programming right now and IFC is showing Two and a Half Men for 5 more hours. How the hell is Two and a Half Men an Independent Film
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Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
One thing I noticed is most of those are either CBS or NBC properties. I get the Buffalo stations up here (WPIX, KTLA, WSBK) where most of those listed air and ABC doesn't have many shows in syndication:
The Rookie
Modern Family
Black-ish
Would voice actors also count in these delegations? Because Teen Titan Go runs almost 24/7
Duke Dixon
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One thing I noticed is most of those are either CBS or NBC properties. I get the Buffalo stations up here (WPIX, KTLA, WSBK) where most of those listed air and ABC doesn't have many shows in syndication:
The Rookie
Modern Family
Black-ish
Would voice actors also count in these delegations? Because Teen Titan Go runs almost 24/7
I think that was always the case with broadcast channels getting lots of syndication but I don't know why. I don't understand why someone like USA wouldn't rerun Burn Notice, Mr Robot, Suits, Psych, or Royal Pains instead of Law & Order SVU all day everyday. If someone knows why let us know please.
Those shows I do see alot. Also add Chicago PD.
Would voice actors also count in these delegations? Because Teen Titan Go runs almost 24/7
It depends on the Production; some Anime titles uses Contract Workers for their English translated version... while stuff like Teen Titans Go will use Union Workers. But yes, the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) does consider Voice Over work to be a part of Acting.
From 2016.