Would Target Score Rules in the NBA Make the League more Entertaining?

[Tres Leches]

bunch of spoiled babies 20 years ago Pistons was winning games 85-80 some ugly ass games



go watch euro basketball or the NFL

 

[Road20]

NBA sucks because they backed a player instead of letting the people choose organically. Said player went on to upset the competitive balance of the league, continually whines when he plays and after all that's handed to him only has 4 championships, one won in a bubble.

Soon as he goes the real men who want to compete will make the league popular again.

So like the 80's with Magic Bird and the 90's with MJ? lol this is just an I hate LeBron post

 

[StatUS]

The only reason the league is having any problems (If you call all the money it's making a problem) is none of the new gen stars have taken a Magic, MJ, Kobe, Bron, Curry type leap into the mainstream. Tatum might be in the midst of a dynasty but he's just a chill boring dude. Ant just hasn't taken that step yet. Ja damn near sabotaged his career. And the rest of the best are international players and that remains to be seen if those types can draw.

 

[god shamgod]

So what shots should have been taken here? a couple of 18 footers? a jump hook in the post?

10 straight bricks , 9 of em 3’s and this fool really asking me this

 

[Road20]

If you want an actual objective and good list of things the NBA can do to revitalize themselves, I’d say they need to do the following:

1. Less emphasis on the 3 ball. 3 point contests aren’t very entertaining especially when both teams are shooting poorly. Potential options are A.) Expanding the size of the court so you can move the line back, and keep corner 3s but make them more difficult. B.) Keep court size the same but move the line back and eliminate the corner 3 entirely. Bring back greater variance in playstyles.

2. Make playoff type officiating the norm in regular season. People claim handchecking is dead but anyone who’s watched a playoff game can tell you it’s not. Needs to be a consistent thing.

3. Better game accessibility. The Coli loves to overlook this because it doesn’t fit their “the 90s was the single greatest decade in human history” narrative, but a huge reason for the ratings decrease has nothing to do with the product at all. Many fans simply can’t watch games. NBA has a huge problem with local market blackouts, and national games are on cable, which many people no longer have. If you can’t get casual folks to tune in locally, they won’t have broader interest. And if you can’t get marquee matchups on more accessible mediums like broadcast TV/streaming (this is what the NFL does), you’re missing out on a major chunk of potential watchers.

4. Revamp their marketing strategy. In many ways, Jordan was the best AND worst thing to happen to the league. They went all in on marketing stars instead of teams and this causes a weird and well documented phenomena where fans tend to “age out” of the game. Many fans don’t actually like basketball and are just drawn to a star who’s their favorite and once that star is washed they either stop watching or become a bitter coli fakkit who barely tunes in/hate watches and complains all day. While stars are important, building grass roots interest in teams first will improve long term fan retention.

5. Going clean house with NBA media. No more rings culture talk. No more legacy talk. No more comparing everyone to Jordan. No more devaluing or downplaying of terrific players because they don’t have a ring or don’t have enough rings. And especially, no more old bitter fakkits taking every opportunity to shyt on the modern product. More Xs and Os, genuine basketball analysis, and appreciation of the guys playing right now. People underestimate how much influence the media has on fan interest/perception and a lot of casuals just go with popular narrative. Why watch when the pundits are telling you todays players suck? The NFL, MLB and NHL have an actual handle on their media and you don’t see anyone moving that way.

6. I already touched on this in 4, but I really need to emphasize this: the NBA needs to make a concentrated effort to right the ship and completely destroy “rings culture”. It needs to be non-existent in the media. Player comparisons should be done objectively, and taking into account nuance and context, instead of just making it a dikk measuring contest about rings. Player A should be able to be “better” than B even if he has less rings, if you apply context. The debate never even made sense, bc then Bill Russell should be the GOAT. But people only like to apply context conditionally (his rings mean less because he played in a weak era). In reality, rings culture is just a phenomena to preserve Jordan’s title as GOAT, and people will shift the goalposts and apply context conditionally to maintain that. Rings culture has completely destroyed basketball. Load management and unserious attitudes about the regular season is a direct response from the players, who have been told ad nauseum that nothing they do means shyt if it doesn’t end with a championship ring on their finger. Fans have lost the ability to ever be wowed or appreciative of players because they aren’t winning titles. It’s just BAD.

You do these 6 things, and the NBA will be in a good place.

Bruh 5 and 6 are fukking spot on. I've said the same shyt a lot over the years.

 

[Road20]

10 straight bricks , 9 of em 3’s and this fool really asking me this

So what shots should have been taken? if they had missed any other shot does that make it better?

 

[GoldenGlove]

The NBA has done this, multiple times, from the all star game, to the Play-in to the in season tourney. The problem is nikkas hate everything and it doesn't really matter what changes are made. Everyone is partial to the era they grew up in. The nostalgia won't allow them to enjoy something new.

And it was great when it was first implemented in the ASG.

 

[god shamgod]

So what shots should have been taken? if they had missed any other shot does that make it better?

Or they could run some plays that create better scoring opportunities, like the nba use to . Instead of trading bricks from 3 for 2 minutes straight

 

[Road20]

NBA teams don't run plays like that. They run actions. Plays are for college. Split action, pinch post etc are not specific plays. Hell the jazz made a living on the pick and roll now we hate it. Just further enhances my point that we get older stuff we used to love is now "trash".

 

[itsyoung!!]

No gimmick fixing this trash



Nba dead !! done with the wakk ass 20’s

question for my "90s players didnt play defense or were plumbers"

what defense would you call this ? 2 minutes straight of wide open 3s bricking.

What defense ? at all ? It wouldnt matter if you put inflateable wave guys at car dealerships out there at this point, but yall bring up defense from the 90s interesting

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

question for my "90s players didnt play defense or were plumbers"

what defense would you call this ? 2 minutes straight of wide open 3s bricking.

What defense ? at all ? It wouldnt matter if you put inflateable wave guys at car dealerships out there at this point, but yall bring up defense from the 90s interesting

Cherry-picking a two-minute sequence from a 48-min game doesn't reflect anything, especially of two teams who won't be winning a championship (one of whom will be lucky to even make the playoffs). Past eras not only had scoring droughts of their own, but even more so, when you take into account all the 70, 80-point games that were once upon a time a regular thing.

The league-average 3-pt% this season is 36%, which is right in line with the percentage it's been for the last 20 seasons, even with this season having the highest 3-pt volume ever. Go figure. Essentially, that clip is an outlier of what the average type of sequence is in today's game, it's not the norm.

If I were to find a sequence where Steph missed 10 threes in a row, should that be used as a reflection of his ability as a shooter, or would it be an outlier of his play?

Here's a full-game highlights clip of the Championship-winning Bulls and a DPOY MJ playing non-existent defense -

You won't find find an example this bad from the Celtics this season.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Cherry-picking a two-minute sequence from a 48-min game doesn't reflect anything, especially of two teams who won't be winning a championship (one of whom will be lucky to even make the playoffs). Past eras not only had scoring droughts of their own, but even more so, when you take into account all the 70, 80-point games that were once upon a time a regular thing.

The league-average 3-pt% this season is 36%, which is right in line with the percentage it's been for the last 20 seasons, even with this season having the highest 3-pt volume ever. Go figure. Essentially, that clip is an outlier of what the average type of sequence is in today's game, it's not the norm.

If I were to find a sequence where Steph missed 10 threes in a row, should that be used as a reflection of his ability as a shooter, or would it be an outlier of his play?

Here's a full-game highlights clip of the Championship-winning Bulls and a DPOY MJ playing non-existent defense -

You won't find find an example this bad from the Celtics this season.

you dont find the irony in saying im cherry picking a sequence while your entire posts basically cherry picks a singular team(celtics) and the greatest shooter of all time (curry) ?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you dont find the irony in saying im cherry picking a sequence while your entire posts basically cherry picks a singular team(celtics) and the greatest shooter of all time (curry) ?

Since you have a hard time following, let me break it down for you -

I used the best example of a team during a season during the 90s (the '91 Bulls) to show you what kind of defense they played that season, I then compared them to the best example we have today which is the Celtics.

I used Steph as an example to show you the principle that cherry-picking a brief two-min sequence doesn't reflect the norm. You take what a player or team averages, not a cherry-picked sequence that makes them look bad. I even specified the league-average 3-pt% is 36% this season, so I don't know why you're trying to make out like I'm doing anything but giving you the exact facts as they stand.

I merely used him as an example to illustrate how silly someone would sound to shyt on his shooting ability if he missed 10 threes in a row, so it was easy for you to comprehend my point, which funnily enough, you still couldn't do.

 

[obarth]

Just reading the room...


This just came to me, so follow me.

There seems to be a distain for the NBA, topic and thread after thread about viewership declining. Interest is not there, the level of competition isn't matching what people (casuals for the most part) want.

Let's say the NBA took a page out of MLB's rulebook and made big changes to how the game is played. MLB recently brought in the pitch clock, new Extra Inning rules and are now exploring being able to pinch hit anyone on your roster at any time for the sake of spicing things up.

Would the NBA benefit from thinking outside the box and adding some changes that could drastically change how the game is even approached?

What's the last rule change, or mere new idea, the NBA has implemented that the people who bytch the most about the league didn't also bytch about?

 

[GoldenGlove]

What's the last rule change, or mere new idea, the NBA has implemented that the people who bytch the most about the league didn't also bytch about?

People bytch about every change for the most part, but I look at the results.

The latest major changes that come to mind are the Play-In Tournament and the NBA Cup. Purist cry about them, but the competitive spirit of the players has proven both to be good for the league. So from that perspective, fukk em and bring on the change



If baseball fans can move forward with major changes then basketball fans should be able to as well.