Working people across the country are living in their cars

[Heavy_Handz]

Move from the hell hole that is New York City

 

[Child_Of_God]

800 a month for car+insurance and u broke


Who told u to sign your finances away for a damn vehicle? 800 gets you a brand new mountain bike that can do 40ph uphill in the rain. No insurance required. Get a job close by where u live. Take lyft/uber/bus when the weather isn't ideal. Stack that 800 a month into your savings and watch it grow. In 5 years that's 50k+ to work with.

I've lived it, if u live in a mild climate and u broke it's your own damn fault. Bad financial decisions. Jacked up attitudes and a super inflated ego leading to an inability to keep a job. Stupidity. Just plain stupidity. This is what leads a lot of losers to becoming broke worthless adults, and still, so many do not look at themselves.


Yeah I said it. If u an adult over the age of 30 living in your car in America u stupid. Plain and simple. U r an imbecile and should be ashamed of yourself

Great, Another pull yourself up by your bootstrap babble.

 

[IIVI]

Right but again the effectiveness of the middle class was that it curtailed the need to "get there early" . There was a system in place for the average (even below) American to live a relatively comfortable life, now you have millions of people in your bacteria scenario

With these systems crumbling you have more and more people trying to make a way however they can, looking for any exploit or open spot that they can eat off of before other nikkas find out, flood it, and run the well dry. That's manageable on micro levels but it's become the macro and it's clearly unsustainable. Like I said in my last post this country ain't built for millions of nikkas to get it out the mud.

The purpose of the middle class was to remove that scarcity mindset and foster comfortableness in the availability of meaningful employment. Now you got nikkas working 2 jobs just to break even, IT nikkas sleeping in cars unbeknownst to their coworkers, nikkas scamming etc

Yup. I actually added more to my original point.

I know some people who are trying to break into software but are having no luck so they've gone back to school to stack their Computer Science degree with an MS Math/Physics degree and still can't get a job. Yet hundreds of thousands of tech bros got into the industry 5 years ago without a single degree and still hold those jobs. Additionally, those who can somehow manage to break into the industry today, degree or not, probably had to fight to do so exponentially more than someone back in 2018.

What happens is so many people pick the low hanging fruit that the low hanging fruit gets more scarce and the competition heats up to get the bare minimum which basically defeats the purpose. We're seeing that right now for the middle class. All those middle class options are basically gone until the next wave of whatever and the same thing will happen to that over time as everyone will rush to get that opportunity.

So when someone says "Psssshhhh I did it no sweat easy. Bootstraps." Yeah, you did it years ago when it was easy. I would've done it too but I wasn't born 10 years earlier. I got no choice to do it now but with significantly less reward per effort. Like they say, everyone is an investment genius during a bull market.

 

[O.Red]

Move from the hell hole that is New York City

That works on an individual level but nikkas been moving out of NY and Cali en masse for the past decade and fukking up the prices everywhere they go

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

What people miss when they invoke that type of rhetoric is their perspective is far too skewed to the individual, neglecting the fact that there's an entire nation to consider

If one person tells you they're hurting you could give them advice on popping jobs and trades. You could direct them to effective skills that could have an enormous effect on their situation. I'll never downplay the effectiveness of skill acquisition

But what do you do when that one person is 50 thousand? 3 million? You can't tell them all to learn Java, become a plumber, or apply to the post office. The middle class is America's crowning achievement because there was a system in place for the 50 thousand/3 million to eat, play, and create a family. That shyt is rapidly crumbling before our very eyes so individualist nikkas need to adopt some nuance because this shyt effects us all

Threads like this are funny to me because they're a direct companion to the "Why Is Gen Z Crashing Out So Much" "Why Doesn't Gen Z Care About Anything" threads and nikkas dont even see the connection

This country wasn't built for millions of nikkas to get it out the mud everyday

And yet you have people STILL crossing the border to get into this country. It can't be as bad as you make it.

That's not to say you're wrong, but I'd need the data to say there's not enough jobs for everyone to move up. There's currently a shortage in all construction trades. Trust me when I say I know because I speak with owners and trades on the jobsite.

I'm assuming you think some sort of UBI should be passed which would negate some of this. If what you say is true, then I'd agree. $1000/month + $18/job should be enough. Worse case shack up.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Great, Another pull yourself up by your bootstrap babble.

You have poor immigrants pouring into this country. If you don't get it out the mud, best believe they will and they won't hire your black ass.

Think twice before trying to clown somebody with bootstrap rhetoric.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

That works on an individual level but nikkas been moving out of NY and Cali en masse for the past decade and fukking up the prices everywhere they go

If I worked & still had to live in my car I’d drive my ass to a city I could afford

 

[Yinny]

Y’all, it is so important for those of us who have the gumption and wherewithal to push and strive to be as successful and secure as possible. This stuff frightens the F out of me, for real. I’m in a bubble to an extent, but if you don’t produce that bubble can certainly pop!

unfortunately this isn’t a universal solution to the problem that America is fundamentally broken on a lot of fronts. Education, housing, work, healthcare and more are all very fractured and purposefully work to keep people poor, ignorant, extremely dependent or living check to check.

Our elected officials treat citizens like customers and treat companies/businesses like family. Being successful/comfortable aren’t just products of wanting it bad enough nor of working/studying “hard” enough.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

At this point major cities are what they are. If you didn't buy in years ago, have generational wealth or assistance from family, or have a household income of 200k minimum, you will be left behind

I don't see myself staying in Toronto much longer for this reason... Why bother? I can work remote and have a great lifestyle in a smaller city

 

[daemonova]

800 car note and instance
2k rent
400 grocery

That’s just the beginning

But wanna cry cause you got 2K, 2K ain't covering that

 

[O.Red]

And yet you have people STILL crossing the border to get into this country. It can't be as bad as you make it.

That's not to say you're wrong, but I'd need the data to say there's not enough jobs for everyone to move up. There's currently a shortage in all construction trades. Trust me when I say I know because I speak with owners and trades on the jobsite.

I'm assuming you think some sort of UBI should be passed. If what you say is true, then I'd agree.

The people crossing the border to get here are part of the problem The middle class is crumbling but that's not to say America still doesn't have inherent value, especially to someone from a 3rd world country. But part of the reason these employers don't wanna pay nikkas is because they have hordes of immigrants that'll do the work for pennies on the dollar

I'll take your word for it on the construction trades availability, and I've heard the same thing from friends of mine. My point still stands even in consideration of yours because construction is still one sector among hundreds. I also wonder how much of that is knowledge based. How many nikkas know about the availability of those jobs? Not asking you personally but I am curious

I'm actually disgusted at the idea of UBI I think if you have a healthy amount of jobs that pay a livable wage , UBI is unnecessary, but nikkas don't wanna pay while prices keep rising so

 

[daemonova]

Breh, LAX workers were living in parking lots over 10 years ago...Pilots included

A pilot can make a quarter mill to 750K.

Damn.

 

[Shadow King]

Car notes are a choice not a necessity

I’ve never owned a car newer than 10 years old in my life

Get you a RELIABLE brand and a used car will take care of you. nikkas buy Chevys & Fords of course them mfs gon give problems

Your're a mechanic. Everyone is not a mechanic.

 

[Pazzy]

That works on an individual level but nikkas been moving out of NY and Cali en masse for the past decade and fukking up the prices everywhere they go

This, for real. Theyre outpricing themselves and then moving to cheaper places driving up the prices there too.

 

[Mike Nasty]

Great, Another pull yourself up by your bootstrap babble.

What's your answer? Sit in the corner and dies, while waiting for the government?