Working people across the country are living in their cars

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Direct consequence of those Stimmy checks and PPP loans and of course the anti eviction policies.

Because they printed all that free money they have to stop inflation so interest rates went up loans for real estate get more expensive and less people can afford to live alone.
You're not wrong but we were headed this way regardless, COVID or not
 

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fukking FACTS.

Bootstraps life I lived for years wasn't easy at all. I expect nobody to be able to do that and that was years ago when things were "better".
What people miss when they invoke that type of rhetoric is their perspective is far too skewed to the individual, neglecting the fact that there's an entire nation to consider

If one person tells you they're hurting you could give them advice on popping jobs and trades. You could direct them to effective skills that could have an enormous effect on their situation. I'll never downplay the effectiveness of skill acquisition

But what do you do when that one person is 50 thousand? 3 million? You can't tell them all to learn Java, become a plumber, or apply to the post office. The middle class is America's crowning achievement because there was a system in place for the 50 thousand/3 million to eat, play, and create a family. That shyt is rapidly crumbling before our very eyes so individualist nikkas need to adopt some nuance because this shyt effects us all

Threads like this are funny to me because they're a direct companion to the "Why Is Gen Z Crashing Out So Much" "Why Doesn't Gen Z Care About Anything" threads and nikkas dont even see the connection:russ:

This country wasn't built for millions of nikkas to get it out the mud everyday
 
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Here is the link to the full article archived in the wayback machine. I was going to post it but the formatting is a bytch and I'm not wasting anymore time on it.

0https://web.archive.org/web/20231017103150/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/17/realestate/car-homeless-rent-debt-mortgage.html

This is no surprise which is why that business insider article with the 25 year old "digital nomad" is cringeworthy. Too much lies going around. Theres no romanticizing the struggle.
 

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What people miss when they invoke that type of rhetoric is their perspective is far too skewed to the individual, neglecting the fact that there's an entire nation to consider

If one person tells you they're hurting you could give them advice on popping jobs and trades. You could direct them to effective skills that could have an enormous effect on their situation. I'll never downplay the effectiveness of skill acquisition

But what do you do when that one person is 50 thousand? 3 million? You can't tell them all to learn Java, become a plumber, or apply to the post office. The middle class is America's crowning achievement because there was a system in place for the 50 thousand/3 million to eat, play, and create a family. That shyt is rapidly crumbling before our very eyes so individualist nikkas need to adopt some nuance because this shyt effects us all

Threads like this are funny to me because they're a direct companion to the "Why Is Gen Z Crashing Out So Much" "Why Doesn't Gen Z Care ABOUT Anything" threads and nikkas dont even see the connection:russ:
Big facts here as well. It just ain't how real life works or is an oversimplification of it idealistically.

When you tell a group of people to go do something, when more people do that thing it also means less spots are available over time.

It's like when you think of a population of bacteria and how it exponentially grows: two creates 4 then 8, 16, 32, 64,etc.
The population grows exponentially, but the space that population has left to grow shrinks.
It gets more complicated when the first group that spreads gets ownership of more space.

People don't account for the self-adjusting that occurs because of the constraints and the self-adjusting can be outright horrible for the people getting there late.
The thing is you'll always have people getting there late for whatever circumstances (literally can be because they were born later).

The remaining that have to fight for the leftover space usually have to go above and beyond which means maybe that software engineer fighting for those last spots will have to earn a PhD in Computer Science and Physics to get those last jobs. This person would actually be even more deserving of those jobs than the people who got there first, but because they're simply part of the later crowd they won't get as far as the first adopter (who was born earlier, learned substantially less skills and credentials but had pick of the litter).
 
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And honestly if folk was really smart instead of living in their cars they would sell their cars and cop one of those class C RVs and it don’t even have to be brand new… who’s to say you can’t live out of one of these? Nobody thinks outside the fukkin box

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And honestly if folk was really smart instead of living in their cars they would sell their cars and cop one of those class C RVs and it don’t even have to be brand new… who’s to say you can’t live out of one of these? Nobody thinks outside the fukkin box

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Yeah if you got the money. A lot of folks are in debt which means they cant save and are managing for the moment.
 

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And honestly if folk was really smart instead of living in their cars they would sell their cars and cop one of those class C RVs and it don’t even have to be brand new… who’s to say you can’t live out of one of these? Nobody thinks outside the fukkin box

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Another thing more people should consider doing if their debt is out of control is chapter 7 bankruptcy. When my debt got out of control I did it and it was the best decision I ever made.
 

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Big facts here as well. It just ain't how real life works or is an oversimplification of it idealistically.

When you tell a group of people to go do something, when more people do that thing it also means less spots are available over time.

It's like when you think of a population of bacteria and how it exponentially grows.
The population grows, but the space that population has left to grow shrinks.
It gets more complicated when the first group that spreads gets ownership of more space.

People don't account for the self-adjusting that occurs and the self-adjusting can be outright horrible for the people getting there late.
The thing is you'll always have people getting there late whether for whatever circumstances.
Right but again the effectiveness of the middle class was that it curtailed the need to "get there early" . There was a system in place for the average (even below) American to live a relatively comfortable life, now you have millions of people in your bacteria scenario

With these systems crumbling you have more and more people trying to make a way however they can, looking for any exploit or open spot that they can eat off of before other nikkas find out, flood it, and run the well dry. That's manageable on micro levels but it's become the macro and it's clearly unsustainable. Like I said in my last post this country ain't built for millions of nikkas to get it out the mud.

The purpose of the middle class was to remove that scarcity mindset and foster comfortableness in the availability of meaningful employment. Now you got nikkas working 2 jobs just to break even, IT nikkas sleeping in cars unbeknownst to their coworkers, nikkas scamming etc
 

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I said it before, but it's up to people to demand higher salary.

Do you look at the salary range before applying?

When you they ask you about pay, what do you tell them?

If your current job isn't paying enough, have you tried looking for other jobs and demanding more from them?
 
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