‘Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty’ Season 2 Thread | HBO

[jwinfield]

225k is better than 198 and 175

euphoria did 250-350k except for the season finale last year

Nah, it was getting 300k “live” viewers but averaging like 16M taking everything together.

It’s HBO’s biggest show since Thrones.

 

[Yayo Toure]

If they don't get to finish this story I'm running up to HBO offices. This the best show on TV right now. Have Rules choke out we west head again and get his corny ass off the show

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Yeah, this is a great show that needs to be supported.

I'd actually love to see this go on until it somehow transitioned into a Shaq/Kobe-era Lakers show.

Both eras are equally compelling

But I actualy think the theme song is one of the problems that it has.

It just doesn't fit the fun tone of the show whatsoever.

Boots Riley is too serious for a show this fun.

A show about the "Showtime Lakers" should have a sort of fun post-Disco early '80s R&B kind of feel

 

[MostReal]

Great show

 

[MostReal]

I honestly think Magic, Bird and the Lakers are using their influence to kill the show.
There is no reason why these actors haven't been on First Take, Undisputed etc. promoting the show.
They might need to go on Cam and Mase joint since they aren't beholden to nobody

 

[jwinfield]

I honestly think Magic, Bird and the Lakers are using their influence to kill the show.
There is no reason why these actors haven't been on First Take, Undisputed etc. promoting the show.

There's an actors strike.

They're not allowed to promote, which has hurt it.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Look at the reviews. Almost everyone agrees this was the best episode and Bird's arc was the main reason why. Get that Celtics hate out of your heart

I think more people are getting back in the groove, hbo did a shyt job of advertising, not saying folks can’t like the bird arch, i understand his importance in magics living and breathing to win and beat them but he’s still a secondary character


Edit, i see they couldn’t advertise idk why i guess the strike

Hence the critical acclaim of the episode and the specific praise of the Bird arc. Way more compelling than a player nobody cares about bytching about being traded for another player that nobody cares about and the same tired/rehashed Magic/Norm drama.

Norm was important, but they’d be better served showing how norm had a habit, and they had to get him gone, also i understand showing how they became the show time lakers, but they best get into that groove and show the actual run, to get more eyes

 

[FAH1223]

 

[jwinfield]

Norm was important, but they’d be better served showing how norm had a habit, and they had to get him gone

An episode with this would be dope. Article from 1987.

<i> WINNIN' TIMES:</i> At First, Nixon Couldn't Believe It Was West

As Norm Nixon came out of his Baldwin Hills home one day in the summer of 1983, several kids from the block raced up behind him.

www.latimes.com

As Norm Nixon came out of his Baldwin Hills home one day in the summer of 1983, several kids from the block raced up behind him. They were breathing heavily, obviously bursting with news.

“Hey, Norm, somebody is going to get robbed,” one of the neighborhood kids said.

“What do you mean?” Nixon asked.

“There’s been cars parked at both ends of our street with telescopes, guys looking into houses,” another of the kids said excitedly. “People are setting somebody up.”

Sure enough, Nixon started to notice the cars. “Maybe they are watching somebody,” he thought. “It’s got to be a drug dealer.”

It wasn’t long before Nixon discovered who they were watching. He had pulled up in front of his house at 2:30 one morning several days later and was heading for his front door when a figure stepped out of the shadows.

“Hey, man, I have to talk to you,” said the figure, whom Nixon won’t identify to this day.

The man said he’d be right back. Nixon went into his house and woke his brother, Ron, who was staying with him. Minutes later, there was a knock at the door. With his brother at his side, Norm cautiously opened it.

The man from the street walked in, looked around quickly, shut the door, and said, “Norm, I just want to tell you that we’ve been following you for the last two weeks. We were hired by . . . Jerry West.”

At first, Nixon didn’t believe it. But he became convinced when the man told Nixon every place he had been for the previous two weeks.

“If you still don’t believe me, I’ll tell you where we are parking,” the man said. “We are at either end of the block. I’ve got a job to do, but I like you and I felt an obligation to tell you. Now I’ve got to go back to work.”

Any lingering doubts Norm had were removed the next day. As he drove away from his house, he looked in his rear-view mirror. One of the mysterious cars pulled out from the curb and followed behind him at a safe distance.

Finally, Nixon had had enough. He walked outside with his Doberman pinscher a few days later, marched down the street and right up to one of the stakeout cars. He didn’t recognize either of the men in it.

“What are you guys doing?” asked Nixon in an angry tone.

“Oh, we’re watching somebody’s house for them,” one of the men said. “They’ve been having trouble.”

Before Nixon could answer, his dog darted into the street, directly into the path of an oncoming car. The vehicle barely brushed the dog, but it was enough to send the animal scurrying in fear back to its own backyard. Nixon looked at the car, then the dog.

“Damn,” he muttered.

He had been planning to come right back with his brother and some friends to shake the surveillance guys up so they would leave him alone. But his dog came first. By the time Nixon assured himself that the animal was OK, the car was gone.

Nixon confronted West.

“You’ve been hanging out with some drug dealers,” West said. “And we know that you do drugs.”

Interviewed recently, Nixon said: “If I did a lot of drugs, people that would know better than anybody else would be the coach and the trainer. I don’t miss practices. I don’t miss buses. I don’t miss planes. I’m very rarely hurt, very rarely miss games, averaging more minutes than anybody on the team. So I should be the last one that should have to deal with something like that.”

As the Lakers prepared for another run at the top in the summer of 1983, Nixon’s name kept surfacing in trade rumors. And in other rumors. In NBA front offices around the country, they whispered: “Nixon’s on drugs. Nixon’s got a bad case of tendinitis in the knees. Nixon’s lost a step. Nixon’s a troublemaker.”

Norm heard them all. And he knew what the bottom line was going to be.

“When I came to training camp and West threw his arms around me and told me not to worry about all the trade talk, I knew I was gone,” Nixon said.

His teammates tried to assure him it wasn’t so. They felt he’d be awfully difficult to replace.

But he was replaced on the mid-October day before the Lakers broke training camp in Palm Springs.

Eating dinner with Magic Johnson and Michael Cooper, Nixon got the word that he and Eddie Jordan had been traded to the San Diego Clippers for center Swen Nater and the rights to San Diego’s still unsigned No. 1 draft pick, Byron Scott.

Does he think West’s suspicions or his own learning about the detectives may be the reasons he was traded?

“I’m not sure those are the reasons,” Nixon says. “I just think you peep somebody’s hole card like that, it might not make for a great relationship. It’s just like if somebody is doing something, and I found out they’re doin’ it, they might not feel that comfortable having me around anymore.

“Or hey, maybe they were just trying to make a business move. Who knows why I was traded?”

 

[DropTopDoc]

An episode with this would be dope. Article from 1987.

<i> WINNIN' TIMES:</i> At First, Nixon Couldn't Believe It Was West

As Norm Nixon came out of his Baldwin Hills home one day in the summer of 1983, several kids from the block raced up behind him.

www.latimes.com

Yep that shyt would be gold, nikka run a sports/talent agent business now ain’t that ironic

 

[Ziggiy]

I honestly think Magic, Bird and the Lakers are using their influence to kill the show.
There is no reason why these actors haven't been on First Take, Undisputed etc. promoting the show.
They might need to go on Cam and Mase joint since they aren't beholden to nobody

Its an actors strike right now. NONE of the actors can promote the show which is why the book author is promoting it.


Magic , Kareem and West hate the show and have voiced they’re displeasure but they can’t do anything to stop the shows promotion

 

[Two Stacks]

Nah, it was getting 300k “live” viewers but averaging like 16M taking everything together.

It’s HBO’s biggest show since Thrones.

thats what it is, cause i'm seeing like, 0.269 million, but those are LIVE numbers.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

I think more people are getting back in the groove, hbo did a shyt job of advertising, not saying folks can’t like the bird arch, i understand his importance in magics living and breathing to win and beat them but he’s still a secondary character


Edit, i see they couldn’t advertise idk why i guess the strike


Norm was important, but they’d be better served showing how norm had a habit, and they had to get him gone, also i understand showing how they became the show time lakers, but they best get into that groove and show the actual run, to get more eyes

That would be wild AF having Norm Nixon's son acting out his father blowed out like a motherfukker

But I don't think Norm & Debbie are going to allow that to happen

 

[jwinfield]

But I don't think Norm & Debbie are going to allow that to happen

Allow what?

None of the players have had any input on the show.

 

[mson]

The way Magic was walking around that table was so disrespectful.