US has had a decent run, but sometimes revolution is necessary to reset the clock.
Rich haven't learned from the French Revolution....history tends to repeat itself if the lessons are ignored.
Will the United States survive a constitutional crisis?
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US has had a decent run, but sometimes revolution is necessary to reset the clock.
Rich haven't learned from the French Revolution....history tends to repeat itself if the lessons are ignored.
no one. fukk em
The French Revolution benefited mostly the wealthiest non-nobles, and opened the door for the new form of wealth inequality we’re dealing with today. It certainly didn’t benefit the lower classes…just like the American Revolution didnt, the Russian Revolution didn’t, the Chinese Revolution didn’t, and any future revolution won’t.
point is when the people get tired of the wealthy and corrupted shyt, they gonna let it be known.
Only if other wealthy and corrupt people stand to benefit.
didn't say the game was fair.
Problem is, it's EXTREMELY easy for blame to be deflected to "the other". Especially in the social media age.
So even if people are mad about it they're more likely to be mad at immigrants or minorities than the rich. That's basically how politics in the US works.
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And like it's been mentioned before, when has any type of economic appeal ever been made by the Democratic Party's agenda? The only time was the New Deal.That's naive.
I've always been on the political left myself but race/culture issues are always going to "Trump" any sort of economic appeal. That's just how people are.
Obviously Dems can't advocate for something on the scale of a New Deal when they don't have nearly enough votes for it. Then people would just complain when they didn't deliver.
But that said...Obamacare?
Yes, single payer would be better, but the fact remains that some of the people who benefit from it the most (ie. poor/working class whites) still hate it because FOX News and Republicans tell them to. Even if there was a public option or we had single payer there's no reason to think they'd change their mind. And they have the same perspective on pretty much any social safety net programs advocated by the left; they're seen as handouts to undeserving/lazy people. And they're against unions (which already benefit them), against increasing taxes on the rich, against increasing the minimum wage, etc.
It's extremely hard for me to believe that if Biden or whoever said "Hey, let's have another New Deal" their reaction would be any different regardless of how much it might benefit them.
Clinton. And that was a light continuity of Reagan
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They don’t try to campaign on it because they have no interest in pursuing it.
I said an economic plan and you said Obamacare.
Even using that example, then crazy racist whites don’t want to lose that because it helps them.
The point I think @EndDomination made is pertaining to working with the boots on the ground and starting a workers related movement. It has past success in this country, but the Democratic Party has no interest in that because a lot of them would lose their jobs.
We as citizens believe in the magical politician will solve our problems, when it needs to be a ground swell of people.
Medical expenses are the most common cause of bankruptcy in the US, so healthcare is absolutely an economic issue.
That said, you haven't really given (and I don't know of) any reason to think that the reaction to any big economic plan proposed by the Dems would be any different than the reaction to Obamacare.
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It wasn’t proposed as an economic issue. And even with that, the tax penalties pissed people off until the courts got that removed.
And likewise, you haven’t proposed an economic plan that any party has proposed since the New Deal.
IMO, stuff like Booker’s Baby Bonds—which he doesn’t believe in since he never talks about it—and Clyburn’s 10-20-30 anti-poverty formula—which he doesn’t talk about ever—are starts to economic policies.
My point though was that this doesn’t come from someone having an idea one day. It starts with labor and organizing. The Dems don’t want to work with activists, unions and organizers because it will cost them their jobs, while the GOP hires actors.
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Nationalism, tribalism, and classism have always been part of the US fabric. I think the diversity of the American dream, hyper materialism, cost of living inflation, and growing inequality keep expanding causing mobs of angry white and/or working class people.
Not sure what to expect in the future but civic participation is important and also being strategic in how you enact positive change. Black and brown men need to jump back into the political process at a local level to create leverage against a small but well funded group of white nationalists. Right now political apathy mixed with the game-ification of the politic system at all level are causing these extreme right candidates.
Steve Bannon is a perfect example of starting small and going from there.
Not sure what to expect in the future but civic participation is important and also being strategic in how you enact positive change. Black and brown men need to jump back into the political process at a local level to create leverage against a small but well funded group of white nationalists. Right now political apathy mixed with the game-ification of the politic system at all level are causing these extreme right candidates.
Steve Bannon is a perfect example of starting small and going from there.
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Not naive at all, that's how successful races tend to be won - that's literally how Obama was able to garner large-scale mass support, and the same for Sanders.That's naive.
I've always been on the political left myself but race/culture issues are always going to "Trump" any sort of economic appeal. That's just how people are.
And hundreds of other politicians nationwide over the last century.