Will the United States survive a constitutional crisis?

[acri1]

When there are only two parties and the one that keeps claiming it's smarter keeps losing who else is there to blame?

There's plenty of blame to go around, but there comes a point where you have to blame voters.

The truth of the matter is there's a large continent of voters that are more concerned with hating on people outside of their ethnic group and/or BS like abortion than anything else.


A lot of people just like what the GOP is offering more and I don't mean their policies.

 

[BillyBamDontGiveADamn]

I don't. It's just the way society is now. Biggie vs 2Pac, Nas vs Jay-Z, Apple vs Android, Marvel vs DC, Xbox vs PlayStation you see it in all these other places. People tribalized and taking sides and they want to see the other side fail just as much if not more so than they want to see their side win. The internet allowed people who normally wouldn't even encounter each other to come together and accelerate this. Society is too far gone now to pull back.

The sides were always present...now it's hard to be a habitual line stepper.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

There's plenty of blame to go around, but there comes a point where you have to blame voters.

The truth of the matter is there's a large continent of voters that are more concerned with hating on people outside of their ethnic group and/or BS like abortion than anything else.

I disagree, look at Obama's first term and now. The Dems have control of the government. The voters voted them in. How can they now also be the blame? Dems just don't deliver for their constituents and that's not voters' fault.

 

[acri1]

I disagree, look at Obama's first term and now. The Dems have control of the government. The voters voted them in. How can they now also be the blame? Dems just don't deliver for their constituents and that's not voters' fault.

Voters put Manchin and Sinema in, and the margin is too narrow for anything to happen without their blessing.


Obama getting put into office led directly to the Tea Party and eventually Trump.


While I wish Obama did more in his first two years I highly doubt anything he done would've prevented that.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Voters put Manchin and Sinema in, and the margin is too narrow for anything to happen without their blessing.


Obama getting put into office led directly to the Tea Party and eventually Trump.


While I wish Obama did more in his first two years I highly doubt anything he done would've prevented that.

Shouldn't Manchin especially since he has been doing this for years been kicked out of the party by now? What's the point of him being a Dem of all he does is block the agenda?
And really the Manchin/Sinema theater is sanctioned by Biden and the party. They are allowed to obstruct while AOC and the Squad even think about doing the same they get scolded on the House floor.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

That's naive.

I've always been on the political left myself but race/culture issues are always going to "Trump" any sort of economic appeal. That's just how WHITE* people are.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Shouldn't Manchin especially since he has been doing this for years been kicked out of the party by now? What's the point of him being a Dem of all he does is block the agenda?
And really the Manchin/Sinema theater is sanctioned by Biden and the party. They are allowed to obstruct while AOC and the Squad even think about doing the same they get scolded on the House floor.

Yeah, this Manchin shyt is past pathetic.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I disagree, look at Obama's first term and now. The Dems have control of the government. The voters voted them in. How can they now also be the blame? Dems just don't deliver for their constituents and that's not voters' fault.

The Dems are playing a rigged game. Two democratic senators that represent 40 million people have the same power as 2 republican senators who represent 400k people.

Dems have won the popular vote in 7 out of the last 8 presidential cycles but only serve 5 out of those 8 terms.

Nothing can change unless the electoral college and the Senate are reformed. That is not politically feasible and doesn’t appear to be any time soon, so we’re fukked and nothing can be done.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I'm just here to watch the fukkery at this point

Nikkas will make excuses for the Dems

I get Manchin and Sinema but Dems seem like they don't even care

That's my issue, if they beating the drums more I'd give them more leeway

 

[ogc163]

We'll be aight, Americans in general are too fat and lazy for things to get violent.

People will update their expectations and that should hold off any violent revolt or complete undermining of the constitution. The professional class merit based narratives ain't going nowhere in my lifetime, people will likely become more comfortable not meeting the benchmarks embedded in those narratives, and you'll likely see people focusing more on themselves.

That means the continuation of folks having less or no kids, people becoming more comfortable not sending their kids to college, acknowledging they will have to work into their 80s, folks purchasing smaller homes, and becoming more comfortable with not owning anything.

Thus, there will be a shift in behavior but I don't foresee a constitutional crisis or even facism in my lifetime.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

We'll be aight, Americans in general are too fat and lazy for things to get violent.

People will update their expectations and that should hold off any violent revolt or complete undermining of the constitution. The professional class merit based narratives ain't going nowhere in my lifetime, people will likely become more comfortable not meeting the benchmarks embedded in those narratives, and you'll likely see people focusing more on themselves.

That means the continuation of folks having less or no kids, people becoming more comfortable not sending their kids to college, acknowledging they will have to work into their 80s, folks purchasing smaller homes, and becoming more comfortable with not owning anything.

Thus, there will be a shift in behavior but I don't foresee a constitutional crisis or even facism in my lifetime.

We know white ppl have no issues blowing shyt up.

And nah. People not owning homes and working into their 80s will have ppl fed up.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I'm just here to watch the fukkery at this point

Nikkas will make excuses for the Dems

I get Manchin and Sinema but Dems seem like they don't even care

That's my issue, if they beating the drums more I'd give them more leeway

it just shows how fukked shyt is allowing these 2 goofballs who can't stay on code to have so much power. They know it too.

Republicans don't play that shyt. Dems allow it.

 

[acri1]

Shouldn't Manchin especially since he has been doing this for years been kicked out of the party by now? What's the point of him being a Dem of all he does is block the agenda?
And really the Manchin/Sinema theater is sanctioned by Biden and the party. They are allowed to obstruct while AOC and the Squad even think about doing the same they get scolded on the House floor.

Probably. The argument is that Manchin is the only type of Dem that could get elected in his state and if not for him the GOP would have the senate.

Maybe in the past I'd have bought that, but at this point he might as well be a Republican anyway.

We know white ppl have no issues blowing shyt up.

And nah. People not owning homes and working into their 80s will have ppl fed up.

The problem is, people are more likely to blame immigrants and other ethic groups for that than anything else. Which of course leads to another Trump getting elected.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

We'll be aight, Americans in general are too fat and lazy for things to get violent.

People will update their expectations and that should hold off any violent revolt or complete undermining of the constitution. The professional class merit based narratives ain't going nowhere in my lifetime, people will likely become more comfortable not meeting the benchmarks embedded in those narratives, and you'll likely see people focusing more on themselves.

That means the continuation of folks having less or no kids, people becoming more comfortable not sending their kids to college, acknowledging they will have to work into their 80s, folks purchasing smaller homes, and becoming more comfortable with not owning anything.

Thus, there will be a shift in behavior but I don't foresee a constitutional crisis or even facism in my lifetime.

I lowkey could see this happening.

Something I’ve really been pondering on lately is the fact that most of the media we consume is fairly new in terms of modern humankind’s time on Earth. So the long term effects might only be just now making themselves more apparent. To me, it seems as though mass media has made it much easier to implement and keep control over a population.

You can even see how movements are practically dog walked by the establishment, through media outlets, to generate an outcome more favorable to its interests. My generation in particular has by and large been duped by social media and have allowed almost all cultural output to be middle manned by a tiny minority of white ultra wealthy dweebs. I can’t necessarily point to any institution or movement and say it hasn’t at least been a little bit compromised. The thread about the lawyer facing Chevron underscores that. There’s plenty of climate change discussion, so how is it that a gross miscarriage of justice having to do with climate change is so thoroughly ignored?

It’s a conundrum that most people don’t even see or take notice of. It’s like the carbon monoxide of revolutionary change that kills with odorless, flavorless, toxicity.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Probably. The argument is that Manchin is the only type of Dem that could get elected in his state and if not for him the GOP would have the senate.

Maybe in the past I'd have bought that, but at this point he might as well be a Republican anyway.





The problem is, people are more likely to blame immigrants and other ethic groups for that than anything else. Which of course leads to another Trump getting elected.

I think shyt may not happen in our lifetime(maybe it will, Trump, pandemic, and George floyd protests showed me shyt moves fast) but shyt will topple over eventually