Will the United States survive a constitutional crisis?

[mastermind]

No they aren’t. But they are our direct competitors.

by common foe, I don’t mean China per se. Just any foe. The system we have right now can’t be changed.

We don’t need to be competing with anyone. This mentality is why America is in the state it is now.

When global warming makes disasters a common occurance and temperatures rise, we won’t be talking about competing with China.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Robust democratic socialist policies would benefit the people en masse, but I doubt it would have any significant effect on racist/fascist attitudes in America.

Even in places like Sweden where they live way better than we do and have so many more basic living amenities, nativism and white nationalism is on the rise.

If Bernie Sanders got all his policies through somehow, MAGAs would just get mad because Black people have free healthcare, quality education, a living wage, public college, etc. even though their own lives would be better.

While this may be true it also doesn’t mean that you don’t do those things. Even if we took all the racial shyt out of it the shyt makes sense in terms of this country’s long term success.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

We’re too deep in the abyss to pull back breh…only we unite is against a common foe.

China is poised to take this shyt over. Their government allows them to be efficient in a way that we’ll never be.

…..and that’s a fundamental flaw in America’s design. The need to dehumanize another group to spur progress. No one is suggesting that China is some benevolent force but as Americans we’d be hypocritical as fukk to point fingers knowing that our own country is the primary reason why things are fukked up.

 

[ColdSlither]

Robust democratic socialist policies would benefit the people en masse, but I doubt it would have any significant effect on racist/fascist attitudes in America.

Even in places like Sweden where they live way better than we do and have so many more basic living amenities, nativism and white nationalism is on the rise.

If Bernie Sanders got all his policies through somehow, MAGAs would just get mad because Black people have free healthcare, quality education, a living wage, public college, etc. even though their own lives would be better.

The bolded is the source of so many problems. After the civil rights act is when these things started to erode. If it wasn't for racism there probably would have been free healthcare in this country decades ago.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

So...we're not counting the millions imprisoned, executed, and/or intentionally starved to death?
Or is that a "cost of doing business" to you?

Well we certainly know that’s the cost of doing business in capitalism

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The bolded is the source of so many problems. After the civil rights act is when these things started to erode. If it wasn't for racism there probably would have been free healthcare in this country decades ago.

America would be a democratic socialist nation if it wasn’t for racism of whites.

FDR gave Europe the blueprint and they ran with it. You have to ask how in a few decades, Europe became way better at democratic socialism than America even though America got the ball rolling first.

Black people were largely excluded from the New Deal, and white people spent the next 5 or 6 decades still complaining about them having too much.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

We don’t need to be competing with anyone. This mentality is why America is in the state it is now.

When global warming makes disasters a common occurance and temperatures rise, we won’t be talking about competing with China.

The whole idea of competition as an ethically sound organizing force for a society and state is so completely fukked up if you think about it, but it’s common wisdom in Murica.

 

[mastermind]

The bolded is the source of so many problems. After the civil rights act is when these things started to erode. If it wasn't for racism there probably would have been free healthcare in this country decades ago.

I think it was the Civil Rights era AND the fact that the economy started to erode in the 70s. It’s really both.

 

[gho3st]

…..and that’s a fundamental flaw in America’s design. The need to dehumanize another group to spur progress. No one is suggesting that China is some benevolent force but as Americans we’d be hypocritical as fukk to point fingers knowing that our own country is the primary reason why things are fukked up.

I got a love hate relationship with America. While I understand China is not “an enemy”, I understand the realities of the world: resources are finite. If you don’t position yourself to gather them, somebody else will.

 

[Shogun]

Well we certainly know that’s the cost of doing business in capitalism

So are you a Liberal or a Socialist?

 

[gho3st]

We don’t need to be competing with anyone. This mentality is why America is in the state it is now.

When global warming makes disasters a common occurance and temperatures rise, we won’t be talking about competing with China.

the system this country was built on is flawed and we never took the steps to fix it.

Healthy competition is good. All these big countries view us as competitors. And we should approach it as such. The problem we have is racism has held this country back from delivering on its potential.

 

[acri1]

While this may be true it also doesn’t mean that you don’t do those things. Even if we took all the racial shyt out of it the shyt makes sense in terms of this country’s long term success.

Sure. It's just that it makes it very difficult to actually do those things when half the populace will vote against them on GP, just because they perceive it as benefiting another group more than theirs.

 

[mastermind]

the system this country was built on is flawed and we never took the steps to fix it.

Healthy competition is good. All these big countries view us as competitors. And we should approach it as such. The problem we have is racism has held this country back from delivering on its potential.

Its not healthy competition though.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I got a love hate relationship with America. While I understand China is not “an enemy”, I understand the realities of the world: resources are finite. If you don’t position yourself to gather them, somebody else will.

the system this country was built on is flawed and we never took the steps to fix it.

Healthy competition is good. All these big countries view us as competitors. And we should approach it as such. The problem we have is racism has held this country back from delivering on its potential.

I disagree. This philosophy of competition isn’t sustainable in the long term especially when all we have on this green and blue rock is each other.

Cooperation should be the new philosophy for production and resource allocation going into the future. The planet is much smaller thanks to advancements and we’ll reach a point where artificial scarcity and even real scarcity will be a thing of the past. The competition model has ran its course and we’ve got a lot of cleanup to do because of it. We seem to think that a better world is some utopian dream when it’s really just a matter of doing better for ourselves through policies that are better for us collectively.

 

[gho3st]

I disagree. This philosophy of competition isn’t sustainable in the long term especially when all we have on this green and blue rock is each other.

Cooperation should be the new philosophy for production and resource allocation going into the future. The planet is much smaller thanks to advancements and we’ll reach a point where artificial scarcity and even real scarcity will be a thing of the past. The competition model has ran its course and we’ve got a lot of cleanup to do because of it. We seem to thing that a better world is some utopian dream when it’s really just a matter of doing better for ourselves through policies that a better for us collectively.

I agree with you theoretically but I understand reality of things: human nature will never allow that to happen unless faced with a massive catastrophe—-think that’s why @mastermind brought up global warming.

until this catastrophe happens, we’ll be competing for resources