Will Smith from The Saints\ OSU Buckeyes killed in New Orleans tonight (UPDATE: Man found GUILTY)

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Also Hayes attorney will use New Orleans high murder rate for the year as even more reason why his client was in fear of his life.

Sheesh... the dualities

Never underestimate another man brehs

 

[MVike28]

An active member of the New Zion Baptist Church, Fuller is known to attack his closing arguments with the thunder and passion of a preacher, often enthralling jurors and opposing counsel alike. He also has never been shy about speaking his mind, sometimes clashing with judges or playfully boasting about victories over Cannizzaro's troops.

Fuller received a Bachelor of Science degree in 1997 as a pre-med student at Mississippi's Jackson State University. But the Georgia native, and unabashed Atlanta Falcons fan, decided his true calling was in the legal world. He graduated in 2000 with his Juris Doctorate from the Loyola University School of Law.

Fuller began his career working as a public defender from 2001 until Hurricane Katrina in 2005. He also worked for the law firms of James Carter & Associates (2002-06) and for Haley & McKee (2006-10) before starting his own firm

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[MVike28]

I don't understand where people are getting "wife beater", this is domestic violence sure and wife beater could be a semantics thing but this incident while terrible Smith does show accountability and remorse went so far to participate in counseling and was still with his wife.

Smith still comes across as a good guy with a momentary lapse of judgement and not like a Greg Hardy level scum bag.

No one claimin shyt breh.

This and any little slip up will be ammo for the defense

thats the game

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Hate it happened to Will but alot good dudes in the grave for over-esculating arguments while drunk or high.

You have a right to protect yourself and I endorse shooting first when a nikka, and I mean ANY nikka, is a threat to take it there.

Let's see how this shakes out...

 

[aqualung]

Real talk..

If a lawyer can make a jury of 12 believe Zimmerman was afraid for his life because of a 17 year old kid that he out weighed.. Just wait until they paint the picture of a 270 pound NFL DE with a history of domestic violence coming at you

except Smith was walking ***away from*** Hayes when he was shot in the back

It doesn't work.

Were multiple cars hit from behind that night? Which cars? In what order? This shyt is confusing. Buncha southern fried football folks speeding in circles and brandishing firearms while their wives sit tight on the passenger side....

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

except Smith was walking ***away from*** Hayes when he was shot in the back

It doesn't work.

Were multiple cars hit from behind that night? Which cars? In what order? This shyt is confusing. Buncha southern fried football folks speeding in circles and brandishing firearms while their wives sit tight on the passenger side....

You acting too emotional breh...

You allowing your emotional bias to get in the way of the totality of facts present.

Who was the aggressor in this situation?

Who said something about a gun first?

Who made movements back to the car after talking about a gun?

 

[klientel]

If this is true and Will said he had a gun first and then went to the car.... He was asking for it. You take it to that level then you gotta be prepared for whatever happens.

6-8 shots is excessive as fukk. But I've shot at somebody before and I dumped a single stack clip of 7 rounds in like 2 seconds. I didn't even realize I pulled the trigger than many times.

 

[*Hulks Up*]

You acting too emotional breh...

You allowing your emotional bias to get in the way of the totality of facts present.

Who was the aggressor in this situation?

Who said something about a gun first?

Who made movements back to the car after talking about a gun?

Will Smith might be the aggressor but clearly the shooter escalated this situation in a number of ways.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

That's why they were wearing the dashikis...nobody deserves to die like that...but something was going on...and Will found himself cheesing with a white killer cop and getting bust on by brehs in dashikis...sounds like somebody had it up to here with the c00nery

Na it's a style in New Orleans. That's it, nothing more nothin less. I was at French quarter fest yesterday and saw at least 30 people wit them on. Them nikkaz will still bust your head over any disrespect

Nothing more than being black...thats the mentality of the black on black criminal..quick to pull a trigger on a black man but hands go numb against a white person..same mentality of why black folk fukk up there own neighborhoods in a riot and not fukk up white neighborhoods..psychological man

white people get fukked up out here every day b. The city is just most black tho

 

[Rekkapryde]

Did Hayes see a gun in Smith's hand?
Did Smith explicitly say "I am going to retrieve the firearm in my vehicle?"

It is possible that "I'm done talking" was intended to mean
--"I am going to call the cops" or
--"I am going to lock myself in my vehicle, write down your plate number, drive away to safety, and then call the cops + my insurer" or
--"I am going to cry in the car."

If a and b are having verbal altercation, and b says "I'm done talking" while walking **away from** a,
then a reasonable person could interpret that utterance and that act as RETREAT -- not as a threat to escalate the verbal argument to a physical dispute.
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Construe it as a threat, and the shooter's self defense claim still fails if the shooter used excessive force.

Bruh, I feel you, but when a nikka goes back to his car talking about "I'm done talkin", he going for the heater. You black fam?

 

[Numpsay]

This dude is gonna walk brehs.

To recap:

1) Suspect's vehicle was rammed into first and he called 911
2) Suspect followed vehicle who rammed him(presumably Will's) got into a verbal confrontation and Will threatened that he would get his gun
3) Suspect fired after that interaction

If these facts confirm dude is beating the case. Sad story regardless, hate to see a father go like this. But the BCC (Black Coli Conservative) movement gotta tone it down and wait for the facts next time. Y'all were out here blaming hiphop, black on black crime, single mothers and everything else under the sun for the incident before you knew a thing

What credible information is this recap based on? It appears to me the majority of you are still attempting to create your own narratives.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

If this is true and Will said he had a gun first and then went to the car.... He was asking for it. You take it to that level then you gotta be prepared for whatever happens.

6-8 shots is excessive as fukk. But I've shot at somebody before and I dumped a single stack clip of 7 rounds in like 2 seconds. I didn't even realize I pulled the trigger than many times.

Wait, so was it excessive or not?

 

[heart]

Props to the few posters (myself included) who never let go of the self defense angle.

Will Smith not being the driver adds even more credence to Hayes SD story.

Why was Will going to the driver side of car?

Was his wife the DD because he was drinking too much?


Ay the end of the day, know your rights. You have a right to protect yourself brehs.

I'm willing to bet hayes has a CHL. Which is why he stayed on the scene and is saying self defense.

I have one and one of the laws that protect CHL owners in every state is the "accident law". Anyone who has been in the class or taught it know what I'm referring to.

You get into a fender bender, you and the other person get out of your respective vehicles. The person you hit or hit you becomes enraged and threatens to shoot you and retreat to their car as if they're getting a weapon, by law you can defend yourself and use deadly force. Also if you have witnesses backing up your story then it helps you a lot.

The problem with hayes story is a another thing that is taught to potential CHL owners is SHOOT YOUR TARGET. Because if you shoot or kill and innocent bystander then you will be charged and convicted.

A lot of people get their license, but cant aim or shoot for shyt. Then they wanna play hero and shoot the "bad guy" but kill someone else. It happens a lot. Thats why most instructors preach going to the range as much as possible.

With that being said, if the new evidence is true. And they get witneses to corroborate hayes story, I can see him walking on smith's murder BUT because he can't aim he will get convicted of attempted murder or something of that sorts for injuring his wife.

 

[Numpsay]

You nikkas really think you can shoot and kill someone just because they said they had a gun.

Y'all nikkas ain't part of the blue shield.

Only way dude gets off is if there was a gun recovered in Smiths car and he have to be damn near in possession of it.

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

Y'all really think two nikkas are gonna get off killing a local SB winning NFL hero? He was already close with the higher ups of the N.O police department... It's a wrap