Why tupac feared hatian jack the biggest gangsta in hip hop history

[Animal House]

bread n butterz is telling the truth coli fam. when i was living in cali my cuz from jerz told me a lot of what is posted here. he used to fukk with some of those ny cats when this shyt was going down. but the casual rap fan/pac fan is going to dismiss the info. i remember when he died i was in 8th 7th grade and everybody was crying so much they canceled school for a day. pac meant the world to the west coast, he was about to do big things after death row.

 

[Animal House]

u do know most all ny blacks roots are from the south right and we all have family......

you think anybody u named just moved here and took over anything or lived here for years , made alliances with the right people and strategically worked there way up to their positions....itusually worksthe same way when nyers build empires out of town

this is exactly what i tell nikkaz all the time. My fam originates from new jerz but they all came from the south. ark sc nc ect...

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

. pac meant the world to the west coast.

Pac meant the world to HIP HOP as a whole....

here it is 2013 and you guys are still trying lessen as well as degrade the legacy of this guy.....

on some ole "he hate the east coast" shyt....

it was deeper than that.....that's what this whole thread has turned too...

the rammifications behind mixing the streets with the music

 

[tru_m.a.c]

boy o boy I love the snitching going on in this thread

 

[KplusK]

boy o boy I love the snitching going on in this thread

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[Dzali OG]

50 said it best.."When Niccas get political and start to manuever they give you a HUNDRED YEARS mane..they did it to HOOVER"....

I'd give you a hunnid daps if I could good dude....

 

[Sampson]

Just wondering, is "fondled" code for rape? Cuz nikkas was saying ya boy Amaru got raped. I didn't see the word fondle until reading this thread

No and I know what it means so I don't need a definition, just wondering about the context

 

[Dzali OG]

This made me laugh out loud...

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

lmao

 

[Still Benefited]

" You said don't go to war unless I got my money behind me. Aight, I got my money right here, now I want war" - 2pac "AGAINST ALL ODDS"

the average rapper living under these type of circumstances would have FOLDED UNDER PRESSURE.........

and also did a service to many future rappers by letting them know the street politics and corruption that is heavily involved in this game...

the threadstarter has some PERSONAL ANIMOSITY as if Pac slept with his girl or something

True story "touch me I'm at you".....it would've been interesting to see how it played out......Pac gets a bad rap for hanging out with these nikkas when as uve pointed out over the years majority of these gangsta rappers have affiliations and hang out with these criminal figures they probaly shouldn't be.....its still going down today after all that's happened....it wuz going on well before Pac and its still happening today...can't say if its ever happened before but I believe Pac is the first instance of a rapper going against the "routine" rappers typically know to obey when it comes to dealing with these figures....U ca say Pac didn't know who he wuz dealing with but obviously they didn't do research or they would've wrote him off as not worth the potential trouble.....this the same Pac who got into beef in Oakland with sum crazy nikkas and had to move to LA,then got to LA and got into beef with the Rolling 60s and his family found out behind walls and had to get it squashed...Pac obviously couldn't help himself "my biiiig mouth", didn't give a shyt or bcuz he knew who his family wuz and had his own connections and thought he could keep getting away with it...id assume probaly a combination of all of the above.


nikkas really don't know Pacs history....death is a fear but its not crippling becuz of who he is....Dude wuz raised by his mother to be the prince of the new generation of Panthers since childhood,ever male Shakur in his family wuz dead or in jail,knew of countless family friends assasinated,approached by feds as a kid.....do you really think a nikka groomed to lead the next generation isn't made aware daily that his assasination by the federal government is imminent?and probaly knew as a kid they family could be assasinated at any given time?Pacs family had been massacred and thrown in jail by the biggest gangsters in hiphop history which is the police and the federal government....the sooner u wrap your mind around that you will sumwhat understand why fear of Rolling 60's and Haitian Jack,Henchman,Kenner who he fired,the g's in Oakland that would've crippled most in fear wuz a real fear....but its the same fear he probaly had of swat teams bustin his door in as a kid and shooting him....real fears but ....the feds make Haitian look bush league in the grand scheme.


I think its funny to how Pac kept getting those letters saying Biggie knew about the shooting....and how Haitian Jack supposedly told the rape victim "you don't want what happened to Mike Tyson to happen to Pac"...just a strange thing to say if he actually said that...makes me wonder if the NY hiphop cops unit didn't use one of their informants to snag a high profile rap act to make their unit seem credible,then why not stir up beef between Biggie and Pac to make your work seem even more neccesary....don't have any prroof of that I'm just thinking out loud.....only scenario I could come up with where and informan setting up a rapper would actually help the cops....it definitly added credibility to there unit which I believe wuz active at the time in NY...otherwise I don't get the motive for setting pac up for rape but not having the book thrown at em...unless u believe they wanted to destroy his credibility,but they saw that didn't work with tyson if nobody believes it.

 

[Free White & 21]

Shock thread

 

[tru_m.a.c]

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I'm not even going to repeat all the information that has been compiled in 4 pages.....

But this thread is a preface for "confidential information"

I love the nature of the info, because I think understanding the environment of NY during the 60s,70s,80s and 90s is necessary to understand 2012.....

But put it this way, if you nikkas wouldn't discuss this info in public, I don't understand how discussing it here is any less of an offense.

Not saying y'all are fake or some shyt. Not saying y'all are bad ppl....

But I always thought it was "weird" how comfortable the hip hop community was with talking about drug enterprises and murder. This entire thread provides proof for why hip hop artist will ALWAYS be monitored by the feds. Y'all know the saying, "where there is smoke there is fire?" This thread reads out, "where there is a rapper there is an avenue into the drug trade." And yet we still STILL can't see WHY the FEDS would discriminate against anyone who touches a mic. Or why the feds would tag anyone who is in the music industry. From the murders of 2 individuals, y'all have sparked enough debate around 2 decades of crime in Brooklyn, Queens, Alabama, Atlanta and LA.

Seriously, have a MOD rename the thread "Why the feds should track rappers." Not one piece of information would fall out of place. Keep doing y'all thing though.

 

[ProfessionallyTrill]

Those queens at Lippie really be lurkin

http://www.lipstickalley.com/f15/damn-about-tupac-biggie-puffy-everybody-else-involved-425168/

 

[Still Benefited]

At BreadNButterz the article u posted says he told a NY post reporter...u said it wuz nuthing but truth right there's a lot of flaws in it for example I don't remember Stretch gettin shot in the robber and pac didn't die in 1997 and a few other things.....but Pac actually DID tell Mickey Rourkes friend who wuz in fact a reporter,rather or not he knew dude wuz a reporter is a different story....but how aout u read the article your damn self u don't even know what the hell it says and u tellin us "behold the truth y'all"

Just wondering, is "fondled" code for rape? Cuz nikkas was saying ya boy Amaru got raped. I didn't see the word fondle until reading this thread

No and I know what it means so I don't need a definition, just wondering about the context

Pac wuz chillin he wuz in there writin letters to bytchez across the country trying to get flicks...only thing I've heard close to fondled is sumbody who visited him when he first got to the first jail said they made Pac go through a cavity search before he got to talk to them...then after he visited with them once the visit wuz over the guards startin shoutin "pac,pac" and held up they rubber gloves and made him due to cavity search again and pac told his people about that and how they did it twice just to humiliate and demean em...is that not violation enuff for nikkas

I don't have random cousins to give inside info but I just know of freddie foxx and a few other east coast friends sayin they held him down,as well as his family who had sum pull on the inside.

 

[newarkhiphop]

I'm not even going to repeat all the information that has been compiled in 4 pages.....

But this thread is a preface for "confidential information"

I love the nature of the info, because I think understanding the environment of NY during the 60s,70s,80s and 90s is necessary to understand 2012.....

But put it this way, if you nikkas wouldn't discuss this info in public, I don't understand how discussing it here is any less of an offense.

Not saying y'all are fake or some shyt. Not saying y'all are bad ppl....

But I always thought it was "weird" how comfortable the hip hop community was with talking about drug enterprises and murder. This entire thread provides proof for why hip hop artist will ALWAYS be monitored by the feds. Y'all know the saying, "where there is smoke there is fire?" This thread reads out, "where there is a rapper there is an avenue into the drug trade." And yet we still STILL can't see WHY the FEDS would discriminate against anyone who touches a mic. Or why the feds would tag anyone who is in the music industry. From the murders of 2 individuals, y'all have sparked enough debate around 2 decades of crime in Brooklyn, Queens, Alabama, Atlanta and LA.

Seriously, have a MOD rename the thread "Why the feds should track rappers." Not one piece of information would fall out of place. Keep doing y'all thing though.

Pac dead
Jack in jail
Meech in jail
Wolf dead

Every other person named in the thread pretty much follows the same path

Dead
In jail
Did a bid

And most of the info here is second hand stuff