Why tupac feared hatian jack the biggest gangsta in hip hop history

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I'll say this.....shyt seems deep, but it isn't....but it really IS deep...

It doesn't make sense, but then again it does...

To give you the proper picture: America is the greatest nation on this planet. It is determined to not go the route of Rome, Greece, Egypt, and a lot of other dynasties. Steps are being taken to attempt in preventing this. I don't feel like going in much deeper right now...

Bringing it back...ain't NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY...shaking nothing in these streets of America and actually most of the world...who doesn't have a file or thumbprint on them.

I learned LONGGGG ago that a lot of these "street nikkas" are....I don't know if I should call it working for....guess I'll say slaves to higher powers. And it appears at the first layer that these higher powers are police or feds, when it goes even higher!

If a nikka is bammin dope hard-body NOW, I'm sorry but that nikka has had a talk or two with some alphabet boys. Now HE may not know it, and he may actually think he moving in silence and keeping it treal...but with the tech in this world it's impossible to keep it 100. America's INTEL is second to none...

From the little I've heard of Haitian, I'd say the nikka was infiltrated/recruited or whatever they do a long time ago.

And I preciate the nikka who dropped a lil knowledge on the biggest fear many in the industry had which is: Black artists and moguls stopped beefing and formed their own distribution chains! Because that would have been the beginning of REAL power.

If you ever get a chance...ask one of these rich moguls why they won't do THAT! If they'll talk to you they'll tell you it's because they don't want to die or get a case.

Even P or Puffy or the Williams brothers wouldn't attempt this! You don't think any of them had the smarts to know that was what's up?

Now some will say :facepalm: "here we go with that conspiracy shyt", when it is a conspiracy...but it's not, but then again it IS.

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50 said it best.."When Niccas get political and start to manuever they give you a HUNDRED YEARS mane..they did it to HOOVER"....

As long as Larry Hoover was on some savage chief keef like behavior in Chitown..the feds didn't care...and even when he was securing votes in the hood for the Democratic Party and the Daley machine, he was good...

but time he decided to change the direction of his 21 Century Vote to empower black canidates and voters in an independent fashion VOID of any affiliation to either parties (dem) or (rep)...then he gets ETERNAL FOOTBALL NUMBERS on a "conspiracy charge" along with being called by the arkansas 'snowman" himself Mr. Bill Clinton as running the most "dangerous gang in the United States"......

or look at the case of David Hyatt who was once R. Kelly's manager at one time and was a multimillionaire contractor whom first made the attempt to create the Black Distribution network but got hemmed up in another "alleged" cocaine conspiracy that got him jammed up for 100 years and ironically not only lost R. Kelly to Barry Hankerson whom Haitian Jack rode the coatails of to get into this industry......

Meech said the other day in that allhiphop interview , the feds had him on the radar since 1990!!.....but it was evident as an industry cat told me that Meech appearing on that SMACK DVD in Mayor Diaz of Miami wasn't a good look.....unless he was conforming to their "type of politics" which didn't do anything to empower the urban community ..just look up the Arthur Teele scandal in Overtown ....

even the Henchmen issue of him getting snatched up by the feds....and i'm not hear to defend the guy (cause i don't know the story)...but it's very coincidental that his arrest comes on the heels of Henchmen aligning himself with the newly elected President of HAITI

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just as Haitian Jack conviently takes up residence RIGHT NEXT DOOR in the Domincan Republic which we all know has never been a ALLY / GOOD NEIGHBOR to Haiti....



and it's not limited to the "rap game" Barry Gordy once told the story of how he attempted to MERGE the Motown dynasty with Johnson Publications (jet, ebony) but John Johnson CEO turned him down abruptly by simply saying...

"You think i'm gonna RISK everything i worked so hard for, to go into business with another N1GGA????!?!?" :ld:


It's a global thing........



the dude in my avatar "DUDAS" is from Jamaica, his case parallels the Meech case in so many ways, reggae artists basically worshipped the ground this guy walks on....the EASTERN FEDERAL JUDICIAL COURT in NYC brought up cocaine charges dating back to 1990 against Dudas, ironically at the time when the Obama administration biggest foriegn donar Butch Stewart ceo of Air Jamaica and Sandals resort took an issue with Dudas having a "ghost position" as head of JAMPRO the jamaican governmet promotional agency which oversees alot of campaigns to bring tourist dollars to the island...along with the fact Stewart has been trying to turn TIVOLI GARDENS which happens to be Dudas stomping ground and headquarters into a casino/resort



to sum it all up...............A N1CCA WHO WAS IN THE STREETS CAN NEVER GO MAINSTREAM OR "CLEAN HIMSELF UP" without CONFORMING or becoming a TOOL for the THE SYSTEM.

And it's a shame because the whites do it all the time...SAM WASSERMAN, CLIVE DAVIS, MORRIS LEVY (till he start supplying the philly black mafia herion) , TOMMY MOTTALA all did enough to dirt to fill yankee stadium..........

but it's nothing new..i remember watching Chuck D. in an interview on BET speaking about how he inspite of all the so-called "anti-semetic, pro black" talk he gave on records it was just RHETORIC to the big bosses of the CBS/DEF JAM machine at the time..

"They basically were like YALL CAN TALK ALL THAT BLACK SHYT..but at the end of the day we make the DOLLARS"-Chuck D.

and he was obviosuly right cause even after Professor Griff of P.E caused all that contrevrsy with his anti-isreali statements ..DEF JAM wasn't dropping them........particuarly after Chuck did the "RIGHT THING" by dropping Griff from the group

but when he decided to go indy and release Public Enemy work online (prior to itunes, cd baby) that's when he became a "PROBLEM" even Russell "tell em bout da gun line boss" Simmons became agitated on behalf of his BOSSES.

so yes.....VIRGINIA ...slavery does still exist in a more subtle economical manner
 

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Go through the thread and you will see some claiming to know... ahh fukk it.

If you're talking about the 2pac case then, the feds already know who did what and where so that is why I stated what I did. Most of it came from people already locked up and spoke about it anyway like Dexter Issac and Jimmy himself.
 

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pac was a scary nikka to begin with he never had leader in em...he talked a good game...

how u call ya self a man n preach all the panther shyt..but look up to street nikkas..

n new york has a whole has history of out of town nikkas comin n settin up shop n runnin areas..

the itialians did it..

n the south has done it plenty of time..hell north carolina n south carolina had nikkas in the city doin it all the time..

frank lucas, frank matthews, n bumpy johnson...
 
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Id like to know. To where can I find info on that. Didn't kno terrell was a informant? In that case?
cant give u links but im sure you can find them......thats just first hand info ...its a open case so i dont wanna go in on the thread.....i just am well connected in the 804 my whole life
 
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pac was a scary nikka to begin with he never had leader in em...he talked a good game...

how u call ya self a man n preach all the panther shyt..but look up to street nikkas..

n new york has a whole has history of out of town nikkas comin n settin up shop n runnin areas..

the itialians did it..

n the south has done it plenty of time..hell north carolina n south carolina had nikkas in the city doin it all the time..

frank lucas, frank matthews, n bumpy johnson...
:snoop: u do know most all ny blacks roots are from the south right and we all have family......

you think anybody u named just moved here and took over anything or lived here for years , made alliances with the right people and strategically worked there way up to their positions....itusually worksthe same way when nyers build empires out of town
 

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n new york has a whole has history of out of town nikkas comin n settin up shop n runnin areas..

the itialians did it..

n the south has done it plenty of time..hell north carolina n south carolina had nikkas in the city doin it all the time..

frank lucas, frank matthews, n bumpy johnson...


You must be real young and don't know history or just trolling because what you stated was half truths. The Italians you are talking about came and made money in NYC at a time when most foreigners came to the U.S. and mad money off of alcohol and lived in NYC. The people after them were New Yorkers who had italian decent.

The same for blacks who did the black migration to the north around the same time and also later on during the '60's and '70's. NYC was the mecca for black people looking to come up in life. For all the people you named there are more who actually come from NYC because they are the children of southerners who migrated to the north. How can you be black and not know this?. Even West Indians and Latins went through the same thing and I know this first hand as where I'm from the people were mostly West Indian and Latin and very little American descedants. NYC in the 70's-90's was a melting pot of people fresh off the boat or fresh from the south so of course you are going to have some make it big time in the criminal world.
 
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You must be real young and don't know history or just trolling because what you stated was half truths. The Italians you are talking about came and made money in NYC at a time when most foreigners came to the U.S. and mad money off of alcohol and lived in NYC. The people after them were New Yorkers who had italian decent.

The same for blacks who did the black migration to the north around the same time and also later on during the '60's and '70's. NYC was the mecca for black people looking to come up in life. For all the people you named there are more who actually come from NYC because they are the children of southerners who migrated to the north. How can you be black and not know this?. Even West Indians and Latins went through the same thing. NYC in the 70's-90's was a melting pot of people fresh off the boat or fresh from the south so of course you are going to have some make it big time in the criminal world.
thats why i gave him the :snoop:
 
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Just wondering, is "fondled" code for rape? Cuz nikkas was saying ya boy Amaru got raped. I didn't see the word fondle until reading this thread

No :troll: and I know what it means so I don't need a definition, just wondering about the context
 
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Just wondering, is "fondled" code for rape? Cuz nikkas was saying ya boy Amaru got raped. I didn't see the word fondle until reading this thread

No :troll: and I know what it means so I don't need a definition, just wondering about the context
i was trying to put it nicely.....its a touchy subject for the extremist pac stans
 

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You must be real young and don't know history or just trolling because what you stated was half truths. The Italians you are talking about came and made money in NYC at a time when most foreigners came to the U.S. and mad money off of alcohol and lived in NYC. The people after them were New Yorkers who had italian decent.

The same for blacks who did the black migration to the north around the same time and also later on during the '60's and '70's. NYC was the mecca for black people looking to come up in life. For all the people you named there are more who actually come from NYC because they are the children of southerners who migrated to the north. How can you be black and not know this?. Even West Indians and Latins went through the same thing and I know this first hand as where I'm from the people were mostly West Indian and Latin and very little American descedants. NYC in the 70's-90's was a melting pot of people fresh off the boat or fresh from the south so of course you are going to have some make it big time in the criminal world.

You right about the italians and the southern blacks migrating to NYC, but he is right in saying that southern nikkas setting up shop in nyc was pretty common, just like new yorkers going to dc and setting up shop was common too.
 
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