Why Netflix Has A 'Game of Thrones' Problem

[ahomeplateslugger]

Netflix doesn't reach the highs HBO reaches but they're a vastly superior entertainment option just based on numbers alone

If you sat people down and said "one gotta go, Netflix or HBO" the vast majority throwing HBO in the bushes

this article is basically much ado about nothing on some water is wet shyt.

Yes, GoT is a hit, but holding it against Netflix that it doesn't have something similar is dumb. Netflix is not sweating HBO, but I guarantee you HBO has been sweating Netflix for years. Netflix came through, crushed buildings, and changed the game. They set a template for everybody else to run with and none of them are going to catch up, ever

Netflix got some trash, but nowhere near as much trash as Amazon

You pick an Amazon flick to watch at random and there's at least a 60% chance it's some low budget boo boo

quality > quantity.

ppl will most likely pick netflix over hbo because of volume, but if you ask them to make a top 5-10 list of their favorite shows from netflix and hbo, i'm willing to bet hbo will dominate that list.

netflix started its streaming service in 2007 and made the big jump because they were buying rights to shows and movies. we'll see the quality of their service once disney pulls their product.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

quality > quantity.

ppl will most likely pick netflix over hbo because of volume, but if you ask them to make a top 5-10 list of their favorite shows from netflix and hbo, i'm willing to bet hbo will dominate that list.

netflix started its streaming service in 2007 and made the big jump because they were buying rights to shows and movies. we'll see the quality of their service once disney pulls their product.

my whole point is Netflix is not sweating HBO in any way, shape, manner, or form

Netflix is running home entertainment and the shyt ain't even close. What's HBO got when GoT is over

 

[Legal]

I will say this tho and i was gonna make a thread on it, whoever picks shows for HBO is a genius and Netflix needs to pay them whatever to get them to jump ship.
HBO has been picking winners since they jumped in the game. Even Arliss was dope. Netflix need to get that type of magic. Especially with them tryi g to be their own studio.

The bolded are, aside from the obvious, the real reason HBO programming will always be seen as better or more impactful than Netflix's, until a change is made.

HBO takes their time with getting shows into production, and generally won't move on something unless they're sure it's something that fits the brand, or has something that could be seen as unique.

And when they pick something up, they generally let the creators just do their thing until it's not worth it to financially, or the show has run its course.

There were literal years between the Westworld pilot being produced, and the show actually airing. Game of Thrones had a pilot that nearly everyone involved agrees was absolutely terrible. They told Larry David to let him know when if or when he's ready to work on another season of Curb Your Enthusiasm. None of that is normal.

I'd also add that in addition to the binge model not helping shows have lasting impact, Netflix gives NONE of their shyt room to breath, and doesn't really promote their shyt all that well. HBO will tell you a series is coming soon for as much as a year, stringing you along with the shortest if clips to build anticipation. With Netflix, you might get a single trailer a couple months out if you're lucky. And then when the show comes out, the very next weekend, there's something else that they've launched that you're told needs your attention.

Likely, this pace will slow down in the next few years, as Netflix is essentially trying to make up for lost time with building a back catalog of content that they own, and reducing their reliance on third party content.

 

[BXKingPin82]

People want Netflix to crumble so bad

Long as Im around NETFLIX aint going NO WHERE!!!!



I'll die for this NETFLIX shyt Craig.

 

[Cloutius Maximus]

In terms of absolutes yeah HBO got this with the wire and GoT alone since those are the 2 best shows ever.

But once you go deep in the bench Netflix has better shows (narcos, black mirror, stranger things, Russian doll, alternate carbon, lost in space, dare devil, Luke cage, punisher, ozarks Jessica Jones, etc..)

nah hbo still has better show. rome, deadwood and mr. show >>>> all them shyts

 

[rantanamo]

Article is simply pointing out a flaw in the binge model. No need for the catching if feelings

 

[karim]

Who wrote this dumb shyt? He used a whole lot of words but never actually got around to making a point
Anyways, Netflix problem isn't releasing whole seasons at once. Financially, their problem is the insane amount of debt they got into to produce content. Strategically, their problem is that more and more competitors are trying to corner the market. And creatively, their problem is that they produce to many mediocre shows and that even their quality shows are inconsistent. None of this has to do with sticking to the batch formula.

 

[Black Ball]

they need to try it for their bigger shows...not even sure what those are now. OITNB and HOC were the two shows that catapulted them into a must-have subscription, they put netflix original content on the map, but both have lost their momentum with HOC being over and OITNB heading into its last season. Stranger Things looked like it had the juice, but the continual delays of season 3 and lukewarm reception of season 2 proves otherwise. the rest of their shows are niche...maybe that works, but between not having a megahit, not maintaining the attention of audiences for chunks of time, continually losing/not renewing rights to content, the onslaught of competition and the likely oncoming subscription burnout, Netflix has likely peaked

The thing is, Netflix is like the one subscription I would never cancel. I can download a piff show from HBO, but the sheer volume and versatility of Netflix just makes it's value too essential. Like I'd never even consider cancelling Netflix. I used to cancel and resubscribe to HBO all the time. Plus Netflix is only throwing more money behind new content. I don't see people evaluating the necessity of their Netflix subscription in the foreseeable future. That shyt is a fixed cost in most peoples budget.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

The bolded are, aside from the obvious, the real reason HBO programming will always be seen as better or more impactful than Netflix's, until a change is made.

HBO takes their time with getting shows into production, and generally won't move on something unless they're sure it's something that fits the brand, or has something that could be seen as unique.

And when they pick something up, they generally let the creators just do their thing until it's not worth it to financially, or the show has run its course.

There were literal years between the Westworld pilot being produced, and the show actually airing. Game of Thrones had a pilot that nearly everyone involved agrees was absolutely terrible. They told Larry David to let him know when if or when he's ready to work on another season of Curb Your Enthusiasm. None of that is normal.

I'd also add that in addition to the binge model not helping shows have lasting impact, Netflix gives NONE of their shyt room to breath, and doesn't really promote their shyt all that well. HBO will tell you a series is coming soon for as much as a year, stringing you along with the shortest if clips to build anticipation. With Netflix, you might get a single trailer a couple months out if you're lucky. And then when the show comes out, the very next weekend, there's something else that they've launched that you're told needs your attention.

Likely, this pace will slow down in the next few years, as Netflix is essentially trying to make up for lost time with building a back catalog of content that they own, and reducing their reliance on third party content.

For every great series HBO has it has 7-10 clunkers. They are not superior in picking content especially recently. I prefer Netflix content moreso nowadays. FX has been better the last few years as well.

 

[FlyRy]

they need to try it for their bigger shows...not even sure what those are now. OITNB and HOC were the two shows that catapulted them into a must-have subscription, they put netflix original content on the map, but both have lost their momentum with HOC being over and OITNB heading into its last season. Stranger Things looked like it had the juice, but the continual delays of season 3 and lukewarm reception of season 2 proves otherwise. the rest of their shows are niche...maybe that works, but between not having a megahit, not maintaining the attention of audiences for chunks of time, continually losing/not renewing rights to content, the onslaught of competition and the likely oncoming subscription burnout, Netflix has likely peaked

Stop it breh. Stranger things s2 had one divisive ep.

Its gonna be all the talk in july

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

The thing is, Netflix is like the one subscription I would never cancel. I can download a piff show from HBO, but the sheer volume and versatility of Netflix just makes it's value too essential. Like I'd never even consider cancelling Netflix. I used to cancel and resubscribe to HBO all the time. Plus Netflix is only throwing more money behind new content. I don't see people evaluating the necessity of their Netflix subscription in the foreseeable future. That shyt is a fixed cost in most peoples budget.

that's you, i feel the opposite. netflix is easily something i can cancel and resubscribe to. that fact that they drop shows in batches and don't have much that i want to watch means i can subscribe for two months, binge the 4-6 things i like and cancel. hbo has a few shows i follow, being that they're weekly, i'd be a year behind on shows waiting for them all to pile up so i can binge together, HBO also has better movies. netflix might have them beat in documentaries, but again, there is no urgency for documentaries either. netflix has lost its luster for me, the only reason i dont cancel it is because my family all uses my account

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Stop it breh. Stranger things s2 had one divisive ep.

Its gonna be all the talk in july

season 2 was not universally loved the way season 1 was, you stop...

 

[Black Ball]

that's you, i feel the opposite. netflix is easily something i can cancel and resubscribe to. that fact that they drop shows in batches and don't have much that i want to watch means i can subscribe for two months, binge the 4-6 things i like and cancel. hbo has a few shows i follow, being that they're weekly, i'd be a year behind on shows waiting for them all to pile up so i can binge together, HBO also has better movies. netflix might have them beat in documentaries, but again, there is no urgency for documentaries either. netflix has lost its luster for me, the only reason i dont cancel it is because my family all uses my account

Most of the stuff on HBO is so popular and of the blockbuster variety, it can be had/seen outside of having an HBO subscription. Netflix just has so much niche content that there is always something that you can check out, that you can't get anywhere else but Netflix. They have a ton of just random Black movies also. The price point is such that I feel like I'm getting way more content than I'm paying for.

My biggest complaint about Netflix is that I feel overwhelmed by the quantity of shyt and their rating system sucks now.

 

[FlyRy]

season 2 was not universally loved the way season 1 was, you stop...

Higher on metacritic :smugnolan:

As for fans it had 1 more ep than s1 and that was the divisive love it or hate it ep.

S3 will be a monster

 

[Jhoon]

I'd rather be Netflix than HBO right now... once GOT ends wtf do they have Prequels?!?!

Girls, Westworld, etc.