“Why more black women should marry white men” - The New York Post

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Honestly it’s not really a good look. Most people of all groups have more preference toward their own. Its natural. I suppose it makes more of a case why the author tells bw not to show a dominant exclusivity/preference toward bm, when bm
aren’t doing the same. :manny: He’s telling bw to be as equal opportunity as y’all are. And if y’all see bw the same as y’all do other women, there’s not much of a case for why bw should show that preference to you.

Now, I’m not one to mince my words. I do think it’s a weakness for Brehs to see other races the same as your own, especially when those others actually rate you low. Like y’all are just as unliked as brehettes to those others. :hubie:

It would make sense for us to prefer our own more.

Most of us grow up with Black women in school, church, neighborhoods etc.

My theory is that Black men receive so much negative attention that we have a "kamikaze" mindset where we give no fukks. If a breh is gonna get hated on no matter what, some brehs figure they might as well date/marry whomever. Not saying it's a good look but that's the only logic I can come up with.

We don't feel the same pressure everyone else does to keep in their race. Money is probably a factor as well. Asian and white families have inheritances (houses, cars, trusts etc) they can hold over their sons' heads. Black parents rarely have as much to pass on, so it's difficult for them to force the kids into doing anything when the kid had to get it out the mud.

Plus...women tend to be the keepers of culture within the family and race so I'd expect women to prefer staying within the lines.
 

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Yes it is. She’s lusting after the product a bw and bm made. You think he’s cute, well he looks like his mommy and daddy, your welcome.

my son looks like the perfect blend of me and his dad. So when people compliment him for being handsome, hell yeah I see it as a win, because my looks and genes contribute to why he looks the way he does.

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Yes it is. She’s lusting after the product a bw and bm made. You think he’s cute, well he looks like his mommy and daddy, your welcome.

my son looks like the perfect blend of me and his dad. So when people compliment him for being handsome, hell yeah I see it as a win, because my looks and genes contribute to why he looks the way he does.

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:mjlol: So white men and women that date out are also placing us on a pedestal when they are with us too? I don’t even IR date but these topics never make any sense if you ask the same questions the other way around
 

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:mjlol: So white men and women that date out are also placing us on a pedestal when they are with us too? I don’t even IR date but these topics never make any sense if you ask the same questions the other way around
If they see us as better than their own, as a solution to save them—then yes. And that kind of thinking is what I was talking about. Now I’m not saying every IR couple is the result of that, but too often I see Brehs making blanket statements like “ww are better at xyz” “ww do xyz and bw don’t that’s why I’m with them” and I see bw advocating for other bw to date out “because wm make better husbands”, or are “better at xyz compared to bm” yes I do see those beliefs in line with placing whites on a pedestal. You are free to disagree.
 

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I think in general we take what we can get. A lot of it has to do with where you were raised and what's the demo there. What's missing in the equation is culture. Asian, hispanic, etc men have the advantage of speaking a different language, and a completely different family dynamic.

If you grew up in poverty in a predominantly black area you're more likely to prefer bw. If you grew up middle class around all white people you're more likely to prefer ww. They don't live that much differently than you do at home usually and speak the same languages

Meanwhile if a spanish speaking man, better yet let's say puerto rican man, was to grow up middle class around white people, he's still more likely to prefer a spanish speaking/puerto rican woman, they have a completely different culture and way of life, and a different language.

Because we speak the same language, it's easier for cacs to infiltrate our culture, and because of this it encourages swirling. Most cacs couldn't infiltrate puerto rican culture if they wanted because theres a language barrier.

Anyway, that's my little 2 cents about that particular issue. :yeshrug:


It would make sense for us to prefer our own more.

Most of us grow up with Black women in school, church, neighborhoods etc.

My theory is that Black men receive so much negative attention that we have a "kamikaze" mindset where we give no fukks. If a breh is gonna get hated on no matter what, some brehs figure they might as well date/marry whomever. Not saying it's a good look but that's the only logic I can come up with.

We don't feel the same pressure everyone else does to keep in their race. Money is probably a factor as well. Asian and white families have inheritances (houses, cars, trusts etc) they can hold over their sons' heads. Black parents rarely have as much to pass on, so it's difficult for them to force the kids into doing anything when the kid had to get it out the mud.

Plus...women tend to be the keepers of culture within the family and race so I'd expect women to prefer staying within the lines.
I don’t know, I can see it, but bw receive negative attention all their lives too. They still are most attracted and mostly prefer bm over other men. I honestly think Brehs just don’t care whether those women care for them on the same level or not. I also don’t know if Brehs are truly aware. All this thread I saw Brehs speaking on how bw are rated lowest and most undesirable, almost as if y’all didnt see yourselves in that equation too. When the reality is that bm are in the same boat, but the focus is often only on bw’s low desirability. It leads me to believe Brehs aren’t aware as much of how these women see them as a group or they don’t care as much.

and my argument is if most see you negatively, including your own, but whereas those other groups don’t prefer you, and rank you last, but your own prefers you and ranks you first, what exactly are Brehs getting out of just seeing everyone as a viable mate even those that really don’t fukk with you like you think they do? Lol. Especially being that bm/ww have the highest divorce rate of all unions anyway.


Honestly I really just think that most other groups also are interested in preservation and we aren’t as much. I think that is one area where there is clear weakness in our community. Even without financial and cultural inheritance to pass on, the fact that there is not a strong interest in wanting to preserve blackness by seeking mates that are black like us is a weakness. We don’t care if we breed ourselves out. Whites do. You can see it in the policies they enact, the strategies, etc, etc. that’s missing in us.

Like I said I’m not one to mince words. Black people as a whole tend to be more passive, accepting, and don’t have as much sense of preservation as other groups. And it shows. I do blame black parents for this partially. Other parents aren’t as accepting of IR marriages, they pressure their kids into marrying those who are like them. Black parents may talk shyt, but we open our homes and our arms to other kids other race spouse. It’s mind boggling because we know no one fukks with us, everyone hates us, and we know our status in this country, and yet we mixing and matching with individuals of the very groups that don’t even care for us? It’s weak. And you don’t get ahead or get what you want by being weak. We don’t have the savagery that we need. And that’s why I’ve given up on our community ever progressing. It is what it is.

The most we could do at this point is put more pressure and standards on keeping it black, so that perhaps our kids will. But even that won’t happen so….
 
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you must not comprehend my point. Why would Hispanic women push more Hispanic women to marry out/date out with wm to elevate their race, when many Hispanic women already are dating and marrying out with wm. bw date and marry their own too more than they date out just like Hispanic women. The difference is that Bw have the lowest IR rate of women and minorities, and Hispanic women have a high IR rate, they don’t need to advocate for what they are already doing.


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Now I do think it’s silly for bw to do the seminars, books, and articles encouraging bw to date and marry out more. And it’s correct that no other group does it. Asian women don’t have to say a word about marrying/dating wm—they just do it. Hispanic women don’t have to say a word to each other about dating/marrying wm, they just do it. Bw feel the need to talk about this and it’s embarrassing, trust me I don’t like it or agree with it either, it’s not a good look for us and comes off as desperate and silly. But a bm did write that book and this particular article, so I’m not accepting responsibility for his decision lol.:hubie:

I think I understand your point, but it doesn't really make any sense though. Even your own data states that one in every five hispanics includes a hispanic husband and white wife, and roughly 22% of hispanic women have a white husband--, but,however you crunch the numbers, an overwhelming number of hispanics still marry and date other hispanics, roughly to the tune of 80+%.

Hispanic men disproportionately lack a college education, are incarcerated at higher rates, and are disproportionately unemployed and/or underemployed in comparison to their women. Hispanic women also have a lower marriage rate by comparison, and the rumor is, they are over represented in domestic violence reports and have a disproportionate number of children out of wedlock. Supposedly they are notoriously into infidelity and exhibit traits of "toxic masculinity" and oppress their own women. it's pretty apparent both statistically and in plain view that a large disproportionate number of those women are in a comparable situation to what black women claim that black men subject them to.

Hell, Look at Justice Sotomomeyar for example. She is a well educated, single Hispanic woman selected to the Supreme Court under Barack Obama. However, I don't recall ONE college educated latina, publicly using her as an example as to why more Hispanic women need to marry white men despite the fact that her current status fits very well within the rubric of stereotypes about Hispanic men. Yet when Kentaji was selected as the first black woman SCOTUS, the Black feminist salvo went into full effect--reigning in and plubicising stereotypes about black men on any platform that would listen, as a way to elevate white male/black female interracial couples as some sort of badge or status symbol. It couldn't be more glaringly obvious.

Given all of this...you still don't see Hispanic women publicly chastising, denigrating, distorting and parroting carefully selected statistics in an effort to recruit, and campaign on the idea that marrying a white man is the key to their salvation. Even some black women with some common sense have been calling it out for a while now.
 

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I think I understand your point, but it doesn't really make any sense though. Even your own data states that one in every five hispanics includes a hispanic husband and white wife, and roughly 22% of hispanic women have a white husband--, but,however you crunch the numbers, an overwhelming number of hispanics still marry and date other hispanics, roughly to the tune of 80+%.

Hispanic men disproportionately lack a college education, are incarcerated at higher rates, and are disproportionately unemployed and/or underemployed in comparison to their women. Hispanic women also have a lower marriage rate by comparison, and the rumor is, they are over represented in domestic violence reports and have a disproportionate number of children out of wedlock. Supposedly they are notoriously into infidelity and exhibit traits of "toxic masculinity" and oppress their own women. it's pretty apparent both statistically and in plain view that a large disproportionate number of those women are in a comparable situation to what black women claim that black men subject them to.

Hell, Look at Justice Sotomomeyar for example. She is a well educated, single Hispanic woman selected to the Supreme Court under Barack Obama. However, I don't recall ONE college educated latina, publicly using her as an example as to why more Hispanic women need to marry white men despite the fact that her current status fits very well within the rubric of stereotypes about Hispanic men. Yet when Kentaji was selected as the first black woman SCOTUS, the Black feminist salvo went into full effect--reigning in and plubicising stereotypes about black men on any platform that would listen, as a way to elevate white male/black female interracial couples as some sort of badge or status symbol. It couldn't be more glaringly obvious.

Given all of this...you still don't see Hispanic women publicly chastising, denigrating, distorting and parroting carefully selected statistics in an effort to recruit, and campaign on the idea that marrying a white man is the key to their salvation. Even some black women with some common sense have been calling it out for a while now.
Because those black women want more black women to date out. they see wm as the solution. I can’t really explain the rationale other than they see other women dating out with wm at much higher rates, and they want that for bw too, because they believe there are benefits that bw are missing out on that those other women get. I also think black women talk too much and make our issues public whereas other groups are more private.

Now, I don’t know what’s taking place behind closed doors in Hispanic households. As a collective group, they are big on family and culture, they likely want to preserve it even with the short comings observed in their own.

I don’t think black people have the same sense of preservation as other groups. And with our status in this country, I think Bw are trying to jump ship and latch on to wm, hoping that it lifts them up. But it won’t. Like I said in another post, I don’t see our community ever progressing or more healthy functional relationships developing between bw and bm in the future so it just is what it is.
 
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Brad won't maryy Lavonda obese babymoma of 3 children who expect a high value man.
Richard won't marry Keisha Ig model who can't do anything related to home
Brandon will not marry any black woman after using her for months.

Black Women will stay bedwench, bitter and Black Men will gout outside the race and raise family.
It's too late. The IG/realtor/selfish BW generation doomed the Black on Black family thing.
 

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Marry out, not sex out, lol. :dead:

If you can taste everything at the formal diner sampler, why not. All men want all types of women. It's not a black thing. It's just that we don't have inheritance like that as a group to where our parents limit our relationship targets as other races do. That said, the crew that has sex with the most women is above average to attractive white boys. They be fukking a new bytch for like 10 mins every day. Black women don't trust us enough for us to hoe like that. We usually gotta get a down chick and then spread the others out like butter. White dudes can live a whoredom life and everyone is cool with it outside of a couple of jealous mad ones. That said, BW understands because WW can sleep with the world and still get chosen. A BW do that, lol.

White supremacy shows its head in dating and sex even if we might be much better at it as a collective compared to them.

Candace ain't gonna be in Michael9100 thread. That's the women I am talking about: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/editing-beauty-of-everyday-women.150213/

We do agree. At the end of the day, BM generally has the most open standards for a number of reasons. BW want to date out the most but for a number of reasons they don't or can't successfully on avg. White women and men get the privilege to do what they want and don't have to face the consequences for it. I do think BW pays way too much attention to what the desirable BM are doing and put it on all BM.

This is it the single largest issue with dating in the community is this
 
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