"Why Kevin Durant is the Best Scorer Ever" -- By Any Means Basketball

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I wouldn’t put Bird over LeBron and peak T-Mac, athleticism and ball handling matters for scorers. Being able to play above the rim matters.

Y’all gotta understand LeBron is a 70-80% finisher at the rim thru his prime he is unstoppable as a slasher and when his shot is on he is a hell of a shot maker
Bird was slow af and nowhere near as athletic as those guys, but he had pretty good handles and his hand-eye coordination was unparalleled

I’d say he’s a more prolific scorer than T Mac, but T Mac was a more explosive scorer
 

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:pachaha: Half ya'll going in on Bron Stans and the other half going in on Bron haters, but ya'll all goofy

I can't lie tho, that LeGBT and Bronsexual shyt is funny asf :mjlol:
 

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I'll go a step further and say Prime KD is a better overall basketball player than Prime LeBron:yeshrug:. No weakness in his game. From rim protecting to bombing it from 3. All in a 7 foot package :picard:
Rim protecting :mjlol: y’all really don’t know what you’re talking about.
 

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Right.It's more mechanical nowadays.Oldschool niccaz played with more freedom.

Shyt flowed naturally like a web out of a spider.Made for a simple, easy watch..

and probably had a more organic feel to it.That shyts been put through a strainer

sifted through, and over-analyzed now.To the point where everybody's running with

the same formula.The variety, tho I'm not sure about that.The only new wrinkle I see

when it comes to variety is more 3pt shots from various distances.25..35. even 40 ft.

That's the new pizzazz
there's a few that still got some playground flavor

but for the most part cats getting they bagg from some weirdo midget whit eboy trainer

doing all types of non.functional drills & dumbass combos that go nowhere ha

everyone has their own rhythm & vibe it comes out when you not playing by some goofy script

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Carmelo was an ass slasher by the way he’s not in the convo for top 5 for me :francis:
 

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Ninjas show their lack of real life basketball knowledge in scorer debates. Hoopers aren’t mainly talking about simply putting the ball in the basket. It’s about skills.
This post basically sums up the mindset of 90% of the regular posters of this section.

In a debate about scoring, the facts/stats about scoring don't matter. "It's not about the facts it's about the eye-test".

People here routinely either straight up ignore/dismiss the facts to run with whatever narrative makes them feel better or they make excuses for why the facts don't matter. "Lebron played in the weak east........he just bullies his way to the rim............w dominates the ball all the time so he should score a lot...........forget the stats the eye test says he's not a great scorer".

Lebron haters will pretend that KD is unquestionably a better scorer just out of spite.
 

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But it’s not even mainly about stats which is what Bron peasants can never comprehend.:aicmon:

I’ve never seen Sports fans dismiss the eye test like they do. Bron stumbling and bumbling into a hard layup and they :banderas:
LMAO :russ:

Bron hits a wide open 3 against a 35-win playoff bound East team and its :gladbron: for days.
 

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All that nitpicking bad shooting displays in a Finals series won by the impact of Bird’s versatility other than scoring isn’t going to change the fact that he was one of the best scorers ever. If the ‘81 Celtics went out like the ‘11 Heat then you might’ve had something there
But the Celtics didn't go out only because his teams were loaded. He could average 15ppg on 40% shooting and still win because his team was just better. And that was probably his WORST finals team. It's nice that they won, but he sure doesn't look like a good scorer. I mean Curry's reputation as a GOAT scorer was pretty much killed by his mediocre Finals performances alone, and he won most of his Finals too and had a lot better effort in the loses than Bird did.

I mean come on now, in Game 3 of the 1981 Finals, Larry went 3-11 for 8 points and they won by 24 (he was the 7th-highest scorer on the team), then he went 3-11 for 8 points again and they lost by 5 despite Maxwell dropping 24 and Parish 18, then he went 5-16 for 12 points and they won by 29. That's what a stacked team will do for you.

In 1984 Finals he went 6-18 for 20 points in Game 7 and they won anyway behind Maxwell/DJ's scoring and the Laker choke.

In 1985 Finals they were tied 2-2 then he went 8-17 for 20 and 12-29 for 28 in losing the last two games and the series.

In the 1987 Finals he went 6-16 for just 16 points in losing the decisive Game 6 and the series.


How can you consistently be THAT quiet in big Finals games and still be the GOAT scorer? It's not like he has some great record of dominant games to counter it either. Even his "good" clutch Finals games are like 8-17 for 28, 10-26 for 28, etc.



And a lot Bird’s career efficiency went down cuz of when he fukked up his back
That's just false, he put up damn near the same shooting numbers post-injury that he did pre-injury.

He had an eFG% of 48%, 47%, 43%, 43%, and 47% at age 23, 24, 25, 26, and 28. So 1984 and 1986 were the only two years he broke 50%. He was ALREADY inefficent in the postseason long before he got hurt.
 
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The diversity of LeBron’s scoring attack is completely undermined
I’ll stop trolling here for a second.

His scoring abilities aren’t underrated at all. We know what we’re going to get from Bron and its not variety. From 2011 on, 38% of his shots come from 0-3ft, 51% within 10ft with rest from 3. I mean really, he had one season where his average made FG by distance was 9.6.

He’s going to massive damage inside off of a heavy diet of PnR and iso and shoot 33-37% from 3 on 4-5 attempts. That’s his game, especially post-2010.

Not to say he’s not extremely effective but in terms of a combination of skill level and stats I can’t put him on a MJ, Kobe, KD-type level.

I don’t see what the big deal is. When people say “scorer” they aren’t just talking numbers. That’s a matter of semantics you need to take up with the basketball community.
 
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LMAO :russ:

Bron hits a wide open 3 against a 35-win playoff bound East team and its :gladbron: for days.

Except that LeBron almost always coasts against the bad teams. Other than that one year when he was dueling with D-Rose, every one of his GOAT scoring performances is against a team that was actually beating them. If it wasn't for the bad teams that he coasts against his stats would be that much better.





I’ll stop trolling here for a second.

His scoring abilities aren’t underrated at all. We know what we’re going to get from Bron and its not variety. From 2011 on, 38% of his shots come from 0-3ft, 51% within 10ft with rest from 3. I mean really, he had one season where his average made FG by distance was 9.6.

Not to say he’s not extremely effective but in terms of a combination of skill level and stats I can’t put him on a MJ, Kobe, KD-type level. I don’t see what the big deal is. When people say “scorer” they aren’t just talking numbers.
MJ's average made FG for most of his career was almost certainly less than Bron's. Until the mid-90s you had MJ driving for a huge % of his buckets and the jumpers he did hit were generally close, most often in that 12-16 foot range. But NO ONE knocked Jordan for not having a long "average made FG".

Same with Wilt, or Kareem, or Shaq. Being a dominant scorer doesn't mean that you made all your baskets from 20 feet.

When you discount the fact that LeBron gets 30-40% of his shots inside, you're ignoring his ability to drive and get to the hole, his bball IQ that knows how to manipulate the defense to get there, his game management that picks the right play for the right spots, and his discernment to GET those good shots instead of putting up bricks.

If you want to talk about the best shooter in the NBA that's a different thread. This is about the best scorer. And scorer inside is effective. Everyone scores inside as much as they can.
 

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I’ll stop trolling here for a second.

His scoring abilities aren’t underrated at all. We know what we’re going to get from Bron and its not variety. From 2011 on, 38% of his shots come from 0-3ft, 51% within 10ft with rest from 3. I mean really, he had one season where his average made FG by distance was 9.6.

He’s going to massive damage inside off of a heavy diet of PnR and iso and shoot 33-37% from 3 on 4-5 attempts. That’s his game, especially post-2010.

Not to say he’s not extremely effective but in terms of a combination of skill level and stats I can’t put him on a MJ, Kobe, KD-type level.

I don’t see what the big deal is. When people say “scorer” they aren’t just talking numbers. That’s a matter of semantics you need to take up with the basketball community.

no need to keep reading after this:snoop:
 

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Its crazy how people have shut their brains off and refuse to see how good LeBron truly is :gucci:

How y’all really gonna sit there and say LeBron isn’t as good of a scorer as KD
Should be no doubt how great he is when he scored 22 str8 points by himself on the defensively brilliant Pistons in the playoffs.
 
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