"Why Kevin Durant is the Best Scorer Ever" -- By Any Means Basketball

[ISO]

Bron stans furious.

Whole page essays, multi tiered arguments, and no one believes any of it.

The proof is in the pudding don’t matter what you Bron haters say lol

Nikkas is gonna be aggy when LeBron is the All-Time leading scorer

 

[killacal]

Hey Faghot I got lots of testosterone ask ya moms and ya girl

You internet nikkas really disgust me...

Please remove Bron’s cock from out ya mouf

:scustonsteroids:

If you think I’m stanning bron just off yourself

 

[ISO]

There's nothing impressive about those teams.

• He went up against a washed up Pistons with no Ben Wallace or Larry Brown (the equivalent of GS without Draymond + Kerr). He was getting to the rim with ease because he faced no rim protection
• Against the Warriors he was scoring against Steph Curry or slow-footed bigs (Ezeli, Varajao, etc.) on switches. 2015 was pre-Ty Lue and there wasn't an emphasis on attacking Steph, hence him scoring high (because he was the only offensive threat) but on atrocious efficiency (11/46 on contested shots against Iguodala -- 'Iggy' makes LeBron's shooting iffy)
• Against the Spurs they literally gave him a 5-10 feet cushion and let him shoot open jumpshots all series long, while being guarded by Boris Diaw (
  Spoiler: ...
  )
• The Nets? He dropped 49 on a washed up Paul Pierce and Mirza Teletovic.
• The '14-'15 Hawks? That won 60 games in a season in which half the league was injured?

Only the Magic series and his 3-1 comeback are classic performances. The rest are a forgettable.

Lol you nikkas are fukking clowns

The Pistons were the number one seed and the leagues 7th ranked defense. And LeBron wasn’t just getting to the rim goofy he was hitting ludicrous contested shots off the dribble

Great scorers eat against switches and mismatches and LeBron is ZONED he is seldom guarded one-on-one

I’m not even gonna bother to address the rest of this bullshyt.

 

[MoneyTron]

The proof is in the pudding don’t matter what you Bron haters say lol

Nikkas is gonna be aggy when LeBron is the All-Time leading scorer

Why he’s had a long, healthy career and has performed at a high level throughout.

That doesn’t change my opinion of him as a scorer or of the skills he’s exhibited during his career.

 

[Ben.]

SPENT HIS WHOLE CAREER IN THE WEAK EAST
AND STILL AVERAGES LESS PLAYOFF PPG.

MINUS WELL THROW UP THOSE 9 FINALS
APPEARANCES WHILE YOURE AT IT.



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The "Weak East" also has the better defenses throughout their careers

 

[ISO]

Why he’s had a long, healthy career and has performed at a high level throughout.

That doesn’t change my opinion of him as a scorer or of the skills he’s exhibited during his career.

It’s beyond a long healthy career

The man puts the ball in the fukking basket and has done so in every way imaginable in the highest of stakes

He is a top 5 scorer of All-Time easy

 

[Joe Sixpack]

If you think I’m stanning bron just off yourself

The fact that you nikkas stay talkin about him is what I’m talkin about you stupid ass bamma analog dumb ass nikka

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I see nobody mentioning Shaq. The king of bully ball put points in the basket but no one calling him a GOAT type scorer. Might be more than just the numbers hmm?

Exactly. Bron Stans are dumb.

 

[Ben.]

There's nothing impressive about those teams.

• He went up against a washed up Pistons with no Ben Wallace or Larry Brown (the equivalent of GS without Draymond + Kerr). He was getting to the rim with ease because he faced no rim protection
• Against the Warriors he was scoring against Steph Curry or slow-footed bigs (Ezeli, Varajao, etc.) on switches. 2015 was pre-Ty Lue and there wasn't an emphasis on attacking Steph, hence him scoring high (because he was the only offensive threat) but on atrocious efficiency (11/46 on contested shots against Iguodala -- 'Iggy' makes LeBron's shooting iffy)
• Against the Spurs they literally gave him a 5-10 feet cushion and let him shoot open jumpshots all series long, while being guarded by Boris Diaw (
  Spoiler: ...
  )
• The Nets? He dropped 49 on a washed up Paul Pierce and Mirza Teletovic.
• The '14-'15 Hawks? That won 60 games in a season in which half the league was injured?

Only the Magic series and his 3-1 comeback are classic performances. The rest are a forgettable.

Pistons ranked 2nd in Opponents PPG that same year and 7th in DRtg

Warriors ranked first in DRtg but I don't find his '15 finals too impressive

Spurs were 3rd in DRtg and that video you posted in casual gold because if you watch that finals he scores on Diaw more than he doesn't.

Nets were bad defensively but got better once KG switched to Center but I'll still give you that one

'15 Hawks were 6th in DRtg and won 60 games for a reason

Can't expect anything more from a KD stan though, guess you don't think too much of KD last two finals series where he faced a bottom 10 and WOAT level defenses.

 

[killacal]

The fact that you nikkas stay talkin about him is what I’m talkin about you stupid ass bamma analog dumb ass nikka

My fault... I couldn't comprehend a man behaving like a bottom bytch

 

[ISO]

I see nobody mentioning Shaq. The king of bully ball put points in the basket but no one calling him a GOAT type scorer. Might be more than just the numbers hmm?

Bigs don’t get mentioned and they should be. Kareem, Shaq, Hakeem are definitely All-Time scorers.

This is the main thing with you fukking morons LeBron is so much more than a bully ball scorer. All his top scoring performances are exhibitions of shot making off the dribble and with range, out the post. Basically scoring anyway you possibly can.

Nikkas mad because LeBron happens to be the G.O.A.T. slasher and is too fast and too strong

No matter how much video footage is posted you fakkits are gonna parrot the same shyt because you don’t like LeBron

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

That’s all it is really. Lebron had the fortune of never really having a serious injury untill just last year.

KD only 30 and already has a career altering injury.

Toe for Toe, box score, Advanced stat. KD Leads Lebron in more categories. Even I was surprised but watching the too, the final stat, the eye test. KD always was the more skilled scorer

KD also averaged a better FG% 3PT% And FT% against Lebron in the 2012 finals.

KD was 23. Lebron was 28

But it’s not even mainly about stats which is what Bron peasants can never comprehend.

I’ve never seen Sports fans dismiss the eye test like they do. Bron stumbling and bumbling into a hard layup and they

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

cats got way more complexity & variety in the trick bagg now to be fair

but they got it programmed so automatic there's no thought to it they just ring moves off like terminator robots

old heads was casually hooping going for style points on purpose ha

cats drill moves so much they get stiff og's more so just played runs & moves developed off instinct in the flow of it all

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Right.It's more mechanical nowadays.Oldschool niccaz played with more freedom.

Shyt flowed naturally like a web out of a spider.Made for a simple, easy watch..

and probably had a more organic feel to it.That shyts been put through a strainer

sifted through, and over-analyzed now.To the point where everybody's running with

the same formula.The variety, tho I'm not sure about that.The only new wrinkle I see

when it comes to variety is more 3pt shots from various distances.25..35. even 40 ft.

That's the new pizzazz

 

[NoHalfWay]

That was one run and Bird only hit 23 threes in it (barely one a game). He only had one other 50/40 run and he only hit 7 threes in that. Most years he was closer to 46/28.
He only averaged 25ppg in his one 50/40/90 run.
His eFG% in that run was just 55%. And besides that year he only broke 50% once.

LeBron's gone 50/40 in a postseason THREE times, hitting 20, 35, and 44 threes in them.
LeBron averaged 29ppg, 27ppg, and 32ppg in his three 50/40 runs
His eFG% has surpassed 55% in SIX postseasons. He's hit 62% twice. He broke 50% ten different times.

So if 50/40 matters to you, then LeBron destroys Bird in that regard. More points, on better 2pt shooting. More threes, on better 3pt shooting. And he did it in a slower era with tougher defenses.

But Bird does have better free throw shooting.

The only difference is, when Bron shot 50/40 he never won shyt cuz even the ball knows his distance shooting is a fluke

Nah but seriously, LeBron been wreaking havoc but we all know Bron ain’t no 50/40/90 guy

Was the 80’s a defensive era? No, but the top tier teams in the league had good defensive schemes and physicality and the the Eastern Conference in Bird’s era was far more competitive than LeBron’s but I’ll let you cook.

He puts up those #s because he has the ball and shoots more than Bird did. It was the 80’s, Bird didn’t even take that many 3’s but you’ll notice in the regular season and postseason when he did shoot a higher # of 3’s his percentage usually went up. That’s cuz he’s naturally a better shooter than LeBron. But Bron’s #s are impressive still

You're right, LeBron didn't have the advantage of playing on a team with 4-5 HOFers for almost his entire career. That should have opened up the offense even more for Bird and made his efficiency better. So how does LeBron have more points and better efficiency despite being more ball-dominant and playing with less help overall in most years?

Bird has a much prettier jump shot, and the benefits of nostalgia. He will get lauded for one good run and everyone will ignore all the bad ones, whereas LeBron is in the social media era so he gets destroyed for one bad series even if he dominated 90% of the others.

In the end, you're trying to claim that someone who averaged far less points with far worse shooting numbers across the board despite having more help and playing against inferior defenses is somehow better at scoring. That's a ridiculous claim.

Think about this. If Magic doesn't repeatedly choke away the "Tragic Johnson" series, then they ONLY Finals wins of Larry's career would be:

1981: averaged 15ppg on 40% shooting while beating the pathetic 40-42 Rockets in the Finals
1986: averaged 24ppg on 48% shooting while beating the mediocre 51-31 Rockets in the Finals

I repeat, if Magic doesn't choke away 1984, those would be Bird's ONLY Finals wins. And in his other two Finals losses he averaged 24ppg on 45% shooting and 24ppg on 44% shooting. That's not the resume of an all-time great scorer.

Nope because if we keep it a buck, LeBron’s efficiency #s did not get ridiculous high until he went into his Big 3 superteam phase, where he played with a player more dynamic than any teammate Bird ever had in D Wade, all-time great ISO scorers in Kyrie, Hall of Fame big men, shooters everywhere, etc.

Plus LeBron dominates the ball, the Celtics played in an actual system that moved the rock for an equal opportunity offense. So a dude like Bird can be off ball, catch & shoot, or play closer to the basket cuz he had an excellent mid post game. He isn’t going to put up Bron’s raw accumulative stats, his usage rate is minuscule in comparison.

All that nitpicking bad shooting displays in a Finals series won by the impact of Bird’s versatility other than scoring isn’t going to change the fact that he was one of the best scorers ever. If the ‘81 Celtics went out like the ‘11 Heat then you might’ve had something there

And a lot Bird’s career efficiency went down cuz of when he fukked up his back

 

[ISO]

But it’s not even mainly about stats which is what Bron peasants can never comprehend.

I’ve never seen Sports fans dismiss the eye test like they do. Bron stumbling and bumbling into a hard layup and they

The eye test allows you to see what you want to see

LeBron’s scoring game is well beyond “hard layups” but your biased eye don’t see the ridiculous shot making LeBron exhibits when he is on

It’s clear with the way y’all exclude bigs and what y’all trying to do here with LeBron that y’all equate scoring with players who are primarily voluminous jumpshooters

The diversity of LeBron’s scoring attack is completely undermined