Why Isn’t Trae Young in the MVP Conversation ?

[#1 pick]

Trae is a really good young PG but he’s not at that level. At least not yet, if he keeps it up and the narratives line up, he’ll be in the convo

Getting Clint and Nate have been game changers for the Hawks

Capela is getting too much love in here. He was playing like this when LP was here too. Hell, Hunter was our best player during that period even more than Trae. We are winning because the others aren't playing like shyt anymore. Bogi was one of the worst players in the NBA under LP, with Nate, he's been a top 25 player in the league. So much of what has changed has been due to how Nate is using these guys.

 

[#1 pick]

We're really asking why an inefficient scorer with terrible defense who leads the 11th-best team in the league isn't in the MVP race?

59% TS is inefficient scoring to you?

 

[#1 pick]

 

[OG Talk]

59% TS is inefficient scoring to you?

As a 5’11” 22 year old!!

Again I ask. If what Trae is doing is so common and not really special.... The league has been around 70 years with thousands of players. What’s the list of players that have his numbers, at his age, at his size on a team with a winning record?

I need to see that list..

 

[#1 pick]

Nobody ever said Magic wasn’t the MVP of his team because Michael Cooper was the superior defender. Or Nash wasn’t the MVP of his team because Shawn Marion was their best defender

Im just trying to figure out when these rules changed and who had the authority to change them?

And will the same energy be kept consistently going forward?

It comes down to wins and narrative, also, the Hawks are barely on national TV. Most people don't get a chance to see him unless he's playing their team, that night.

 

[Torrential]

Because the reddit cac population is an emerging market the NBA is trying to target

 

[#1 pick]

As a 5’11” 22 year old!!

Again I ask. If what Trae is doing is so common and not really special.... The league has been around 70 years with thousands of players. What’s the list of players that have his numbers, at his age, at his size on a team with a winning record?

I need to see that list..

He is special, people underestimate him far too much. He is hell on a defense and teams consistently have to double him consistently.
He's more like 6'2 with shoes. 6'1 w/o shoes

 

[#1 pick]

Trae Young averages 25.5 PPG but that's all anyone pays attention to.
They ignore the fact that he's defensively terrible and doesn't offer as much of an impact on the floor as many other players.

He doesn't even crack the top 20 in value over replacement.
If people could get over their infatuation with PPG (which matters, but is not everything), a more honest assessment of value can be had.

I hate BS like this for idiots like you. His fukking offensive impact is insane and it's been so since he was a fukking rookie. It's like you idiots use his defense as if it's a killer for us when it's not. At the same point, some of you guys are Steve Nash and Magic Johnson fans.

 

[OG Talk]

He is special, people underestimate him far too much. He is hell on a defense and teams consistently have to double him consistently.
He's more like 6'2 with shoes. 6'1 w/o shoes

True.

But even take away size.

How many players at age 22 have averaged a double double with almost 30ppg on a playoff team?

Whenever we see the list I bet every name would be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Shaq and maybe a few others.

I think the fact that Luka is doing it slightly better at the same time has taken away from Trae’s historical greatness.

The media talks about Luka like he’s a child prodigy and wanna treat Trae like a 10 year vet. It’s weird.

 

[#1 pick]

True.

But even take away size.

How many players at age 22 have averaged a double double with almost 30ppg on a playoff team?

Whenever we see the list I bet every name would be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Shaq and maybe a few others.

I think the fact that Luka is doing it slightly better at the same time has taken away from Trae’s historical greatness.

The media talks about Luka like he’s a child prodigy and wanna treat Trae like a 10 year vet. It’s weird.

 

[MJ Truth]

But his teams results aren't the same. That should matter

Does none of that credit go to management or teammates or coaching??

 

[OG Talk]

Does none of that credit go to management or teammates or coaching??

Sure it’s a team effort.

But dudes talk about Trae like he’s just along for the ride. Like he isn’t historically great for his age.

 

[Apprentice]

Sure it’s a team effort.

But dudes talk about Trae like he’s just along for the ride. Like he isn’t historically great for his age.

Not sure about historically great, he’s the best playmaker on a playoff team right now he can get that

 

[OG Talk]

Not sure about historically great, he’s the best playmaker on a playoff team right now he can get that

Just that? Who’s a better scorer then?



The most 40 point games by any player in their first 2 seasons in the entire history of the league isn’t historically great?

 

[Apprentice]

Just that? Who’s a better scorer then?



The most 40 point games by any player in their first 2 seasons isn’t historically great?

I include scoring in playmaking, if u puttin points up u making plays shoutout @Double Burger With Cheese