Why is NBA Media so much worse than other Major Sports

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Without a doubt it boils down to the stupid childish ring culture. Everything boils down to a “ring” thus everything is meaningless until the NBA final. So, until NBA final they need to fill season with some talking points but due to the culture which has everything boiling down to a ring they have nothing to talk about. Once you prize the regular season and accept that you don’t need a ring to a great player or a GOAT player than the debates and talking points will change. The day NBA fans and basketball lovers accept the fact you CAN be the GOAT without winning a ring than new alternative and reality regarding basketball can thrive and be nurtured.
 

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Without a doubt it boils down to the stupid childish ring culture. Everything boils down to a “ring” thus everything is meaningless until the NBA final. So, until NBA final they need to fill season with some talking points but due to the culture which has everything boiling down to a ring they have nothing to talk about. Once you prize the regular season and accept that you don’t need a ring to a great player or a GOAT player than the debates and talking points will change. The day NBA fans and basketball lovers accept the fact you CAN be the GOAT without winning a ring than new alternative and reality regarding basketball can thrive and be nurtured.
How can you be the greatest at something and you never won at the highest level of the sport?

Can you be the GOAT chess player and you’ve never been a grand champion?
 

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How can you be the greatest at something and you never won at the highest level of the sport?

Can you be the GOAT chess player and you’ve never been a grand champion?
Somewhat decent analogy. You can’t compare team sports to individual sport though

Here is an example,

Imagine if Jordan played his career, hit the exact same shots he did against those team he beat in the NBA final. But imagine those teams shot better FG% and Jordan lost 6 NBA finals with the same performance. Is he still not the GOAT!?!

When it comes to team sports, a lot is out of hands of individual players and luck plays a major role in success.
 

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Somewhat decent analogy. You can’t compare team sports to individual sport though

Here is an example,

Imagine if Jordan played his career, hit the exact same shots he did against those team he beat in the NBA final. But imagine those teams shot better FG% and Jordan lost 6 NBA finals with the same performance. Is he still not the GOAT!?!

When it comes to team sports, a lot is out of hands of individual players and luck plays a major role in success.


In the NBA when you’re the best player in the game you have far more impact than in any other team sport . It’s not even close .

If you’re the greatest you must be a multiple time champion. Now does it mean player B is better than player A because he has one more title? No . But if you’re ringless you can’t be in the conversation ,,

you can still be a great player though . Problem is ppl act like those without rings are trash .
 

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I was thinking about this topic while tidying up the place.

All the answers are spot on. The NBA made its bread and butter elevating superstar led dynasties to the forefront. SO takes around very binary concepts like winning the chip or being the GOAT rule the discourse.

I was thinking why a sports giant like Pardon My Take doesnt really cover the NBA and it dawned on me that (aside from the cac fratboy-ism :mjpls:), PMTs whole brand is irreverence and outright mocking of "serious sports culture". The NFL is the perfect brand to parody but the NBA doesnt take itself seriously as is. Theres no joke PFT or Big Cat can make thats any more ridiculous than what Big J journalists already say about the NBA :mjlol:.

Same with Colin Cowherd. His straight shooter, ultra critical takes in the NFL make for great TV. With the NBA he struggles BAD to come up with compelling, sustainable narratives outside of Lebron and the Warriors.
 

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Somewhat decent analogy. You can’t compare team sports to individual sport though

Here is an example,

Imagine if Jordan played his career, hit the exact same shots he did against those team he beat in the NBA final. But imagine those teams shot better FG% and Jordan lost 6 NBA finals with the same performance. Is he still not the GOAT!?!

When it comes to team sports, a lot is out of hands of individual players and luck plays a major role in success.


Except that this is not the case with the NBA. Star players are literally the difference between teams being a championship contender, and being a lottery team. LeBron, KD, Giannis, etc are scrutinized, because it comes with the territory. In the NFL, a star QB can get you to the playoffs, but unless you have an above average defense, that QB won't get to be scrutinized like NBA stars will if their team doesn't get to the finals/win titles because there's a whole other side of the game the QB has no control over. In the NBA, it's the star player, and 4 other guys that support you. The star is the difference, and the key to winning championships. If they want to be considered all time greats/GOATS, then they need to win at least a few championships to be considered in that conversation.

It sucks, but that's how fans/media rate these players. Hell, these players pay attention to this shyt as much or more than these pundits/fans. Why do you think we've seen so many superteams form the past several years? Because these players realize that for them to have a long lasting legacy, they need to get themselves positioned as championship contenders. They see Inside The NBA where Kenny and Shaq regularly clown Barkley for not being a "champion". They pay attention to Undisputed, First Take, The Herd, etc where they don't talk about anything else except which players are in position to win, and how damaging it will be for their legacy if they don't win. They don't want to end up like Barkley/Malone, where they are considered "great" players, but not all-time players.
 
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Without a doubt it boils down to the stupid childish ring culture. Everything boils down to a “ring” thus everything is meaningless until the NBA final. So, until NBA final they need to fill season with some talking points but due to the culture which has everything boiling down to a ring they have nothing to talk about. Once you prize the regular season and accept that you don’t need a ring to a great player or a GOAT player than the debates and talking points will change. The day NBA fans and basketball lovers accept the fact you CAN be the GOAT without winning a ring than new alternative and reality regarding basketball can thrive and be nurtured.

Will never happen.

The NBA fanbase has drawn a line in the sand of stupid shyt like eye tests and ring count and actively mock/have strong disdain for players who are putting up all world numbers but cant win. God forbid your numbers are actually efficient too and dont revolve around volume scoring with low percentage shots. Let that be the case and youre a stat padding fraud who needs cacalytics to have a impact :troll:
 
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