Why is NBA Media so much worse than other Major Sports

[phillycavsfan]

International rights only make up 10% of the NBA's revenue.

10 percent of 10 billion is still a billion. But I'm glad you understand you know that money exists outside of the United States.

It's funny that you retards keep claiming that no one is pining for MJ and yet you turned this thread into yet another MJ/Bron thread.

 

[phillycavsfan]

What was Pippen doing before he arrived to save MJ?

Sucking dyck. Who cares? He's a hall of famer.

 

[fifth column]

Sucking dyck. Who cares? He's a hall of famer.

I’m not knocking Pippen I’m just asking you what was he doing before he came to save MJ from eternal failure in the NBA.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Complain that the league isn't what it was
Generational talents create generational fans... But when that generation is over... They go with them (and it's ok). You won't need those fans to sustain the league, new fans will pop up and love some new players

Thats not the way to sustain a business. The return fan is the bigger prize.

 

[NYC Rebel]

This is your original post which sparked my reply in the first place.

You flat out stated that ratings are down because there hasn’t been a “guy” since Kobe. An obvious shot at Bron and Steph. I fundamentally break down how idiotic your take is with actual facts and numbers, and it becomes clear Bron and Steph were bigger TV draws than Kobe ever was. Now you’re trying to gaslight me into seeming crazy, like I just started this for no reason. Not today fakkit

Take that L and bow out gracefully please this is embarrassing.

Ive had that dummy on ignore for a while. Hes a pure shyt poster

 

[FTBS]

Stop.

People aren't "pining for Mike".

People are pining for an NBA that looks the way the NBA was supposed to look

People don't just talk about Mike

They talk about Magic & Bird

Lakers Vs. Celtics.

The "Bad Boy Pistons" vs. EVERYBODY

THAT's what people are pining for, not just a watered down game where nobody can touch each other & everybody just jacks up 50 3s a game while still having to sit out a quarter of the season due to "load management"

They weren't doing "desperate" shyt.

There was an expansion of the playoffs in every major sport in America at the same time, dude.

The MLB & NFL expanded their playoffs for the same reasons

Cable TV brought more revenue in the '80s and there was a demand for as much product as possible.

Exactly...people are stuck on shyt from 40 years ago because thats what they came up on, thats what they are into, thats what the fell in love with...not basketball itself. You saying the same thing I am saying. And none of those things are coming back. Either you (people in general not you individually) like basketball or you dont. If you dont thats fine. But we gotta be honest here. We gotta be self aware here. I dont think the game is perfect now. Plenty of things I disagree with. But I accept that we arent going back to the 80s. I dont expect another Mike or Magic/Bird to come along. I love basketball regardless.

There is playoff expansion...and there is having 2/3 of your league make the playoffs breh.

 

[FTBS]

Competition mattered. Jordan was marketed heavy but to deny is competitive spirit is insane. All these new nikkas care about is branding. They have no desire to be the best ever, Just to get millions

Was Jordan the first or only person with competitive spirit? Nobody had it when the Finals was on tape delay? Nobody had it when the ratings dropped off after him. I know people use the word casual as a pejorative but casuals are the key to any sport being huge. Sure diehards were moved by MJs skills and competitive spirit (as well the aesthetic and the marketing too...nikkas aint immune) but that aint what made Mike a global icon. That aint what had people that know nothing about the game tuning in or buying Js.

MJ was the forefather to modern branding. He is known to put that over everything...including issues of the day. People say all players care about is money each generation as the money rises. Its true for some and not true for others...been that way.

 

[FTBS]

I only pay attention to the basketball being played so I can’t speak on the “myth” stuff. I’m pining for players who care about being competitive for the interest of us who watch.

Which we have plenty of. We just dont have the GOAT (at both basketball and sports marketing/branding) and he aint coming back.

 

[catskill247]

Was Jordan the first or only person with competitive spirit? Nobody had it when the Finals was on tape delay? Nobody had it when the ratings dropped off after him. I know people use the word casual as a pejorative but casuals are the key to any sport being huge. Sure diehards were moved by MJs skills and competitive spirit (as well the aesthetic and the marketing too...nikkas aint immune) but that aint what made Mike a global icon. That aint what had people that know nothing about the game tuning in or buying Js.

MJ was the forefather to modern branding. He is known to put that over everything...including issues of the day. People say all players care about is money each generation as the money rises. Its true for some and not true for others...been that way.

Its interesting how fans dismiss ball before Jordan and downplay ball after him. I been watching the nba since the late 90s but only in the last few years I found out that the Bulls didn't instantly
become a lottery team when MJ retired the first time, how MJ wasn't going to comeback without Pippen and later on retired because we wouldn't be along side Pippen and Phil. Made me look at his career different.

MJ(nike) had us drinking so much kool-aid you would of thought he was Jim Jones

 

[fifth column]

Its interesting how fans dismiss ball before Jordan and downplay ball after him. I been watching the nba since the late 90s but only in the last few years I found out that the Bulls didn't instantly
become a lottery team when MJ retired the first time, how MJ wasn't going to comeback without Pippen and later on retired because we wouldn't be along side Pippen and Phil. Made me look at his career different.

MJ(nike) had us drinking so much kool-aid you would of thought he was Jim Jones

So you look at MJ differently because he was loyal to the guys that helped him lead a dynasty and win a perfect 6-0 rings in the finals why would you expect a 3x championship team to fall off into lottery immediately when they still had Pippen plus most of their core and head coach minus MJ.

This super team era have y’all confused about what grinding it out and true competitiveness

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

NBA is star driven and they don't do a great job of showing the strategy in hoops.

With football, you get all the TMZ stories plus you have guys like Kurt Warner breaking down everything from footwork, zone/man hybrid concepts, route combinations etc. Football lends itself to deep strategy discussion AND drama. It's just part of the landscape, so there's something for everyone.

Basketball has strategy too but The Media figures a higher percentage of fans are casuals and don't care about that stuff. You also have to factor in that one truly elite baller can basically say "fukk yo scheme, I'm dropping 50." We've seen MJ, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Bron, Curry etc., just go ham doing whatever thee fukk they want and you can't stop it.

The equivalent would be like Baltimore feeding Henry 20x/game and breh averaged like 15.0 ypc because he felt like it. Not something you can do in football.

Basketball...hell we saw it at the Olympics. Steph just stared Wemby down and started drilling everything from inside half-court.

 

[catskill247]

So you look at MJ differently because he was loyal to the guys that helped him lead a dynasty and win a perfect 6-0 rings in the finals why would you expect a 3x championship team to fall off into lottery immediately when they still had Pippen plus most of their core and head coach minus MJ.

This super team era have y’all confused about what grinding it out and true competitiveness

I'm not praising blind loyalty. You respect that? You still eat you're Wheaties while wearing air Jordans . That code that MJ wanted to live by didn't stop Pip and Phil from continuing there career. Then just a few years later MJ realizes that the nba went on without him, that the young kid in LA that was idolizing him was turning into something special so love handles MJ comes back to play for the god damn wizards!!! If he was so loyal to the Bulls why didn't he find a way to play with them.

 

[fifth column]

I'm not praising blind loyalty. You respect that? You still eat you're Wheaties while wearing air Jordans . That code that MJ wanted to live by didn't stop Pip and Phil from continuing there career. Then just a few years later MJ realizes that the nba went on without him, that the young kid in LA that was idolizing him was turning into something special so love handles MJ comes back to play for the god damn wizards!!! If he was so loyal to the Bulls why didn't he find a way to play with them.

Are you stupid or something

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

You do know Jordan didn't win shyt until Pippen arrived in Chicago, right? And then they needed another Hall of Famer in Rodman when Baby Shaq and the Magic ruined them on the boards, right?

Dude, Jordan only played 2 full seasons in Chicago before Pippen got to Chicago.

He made the playoffs 3x, lost to the Celtics (who had 5 HOFs) in '86 (broken foot year) & '87

And lost to a Milwaukee team that had 4 All-Stars in '85

You act like he was crashing out or something.

He was on a rebuilding team where the 2nd best player was a rookie Charles Oakley, coming in as an 8th seed.

Pippen's first year in the NBA, they won a playoff series, Jordan averaged 45 & Pippen averaged 10 & you nikkaz acting like it was Pippen that made the difference.

10 percent of 10 billion is still a billion. But I'm glad you understand you know that money exists outside of the United States.

It's funny that you retards keep claiming that no one is pining for MJ and yet you turned this thread into yet another MJ/Bron thread.

I'm not the one who brought his ass up, retard.

But I"m sure "PhillyCAVS" fan doesn't have Bron on the brain

I’m not knocking Pippen I’m just asking you what was he doing before he came to save MJ from eternal failure in the NBA.

Nothing.

Dude, I was there, nobody even respected Pippen in the '90s, even after he became like an All-Star.

Even other All-Stars made fun of Pippen. That's why he's so bitter, now.

Exactly...people are stuck on shyt from 40 years ago because thats what they came up on, thats what they are into, thats what the fell in love with...not basketball itself. You saying the same thing I am saying. And none of those things are coming back. Either you (people in general not you individually) like basketball or you dont. If you dont thats fine. But we gotta be honest here. We gotta be self aware here. I dont think the game is perfect now. Plenty of things I disagree with. But I accept that we arent going back to the 80s. I dont expect another Mike or Magic/Bird to come along. I love basketball regardless.

There is playoff expansion...and there is having 2/3 of your league make the playoffs breh.

They're stuck on shyt that's good because the new shyt isn't better.

That's like saying movie fans are "stuck on old shyt" because they're saying "The Godfather" is better than the bullshyt Hollywood is putting out.

It just is.

Nobody's saying "go back to the '80s", just play fukking watchable basketball, genius.

Liking basketball doesn't entail just liking anything they serve us.

It'd be like saying I have to pretend that Sexy Red is as good as Lauryn Hill because that's just what Hip-Hop is these days.

An inferior product is an inferior product

And the ratings tell the truth.

Its interesting how fans dismiss ball before Jordan and downplay ball after him. I been watching the nba since the late 90s but only in the last few years I found out that the Bulls didn't instantly
become a lottery team when MJ retired the first time, how MJ wasn't going to comeback without Pippen and later on retired because we wouldn't be along side Pippen and Phil. Made me look at his career different.

MJ(nike) had us drinking so much kool-aid you would of thought he was Jim Jones

Literally, nobody does this.

There's tons of 30 for 30s & documentaries about Magic vs. Bird, Lakers vs. Celtics, The Bad Boy Pistons, etc. . .

MJ himself always said that he wouldn't disrespect the OGs by calling himself the GOAT

 

[FTBS]

Dude, Jordan only played 2 full seasons in Chicago before Pippen got to Chicago.

He made the playoffs 3x, lost to the Celtics (who had 5 HOFs) in '86 (broken foot year) & '87

And lost to a Milwaukee team that had 4 All-Stars in '85

You act like he was crashing out or something.

He was on a rebuilding team where the 2nd best player was a rookie Charles Oakley, coming in as an 8th seed.

Pippen's first year in the NBA, they won a playoff series, Jordan averaged 45 & Pippen averaged 10 & you nikkaz acting like it was Pippen that made the difference.

I'm not the one who brought his ass up, retard.

But I"m sure "PhillyCAVS" fan doesn't have Bron on the brain

Nothing.

Dude, I was there, nobody even respected Pippen in the '90s, even after he became like an All-Star.

Even other All-Stars made fun of Pippen. That's why he's so bitter, now.

They're stuck on shyt that's good because the new shyt isn't better.

That's like saying movie fans are "stuck on old shyt" because they're saying "The Godfather" is better than the bullshyt Hollywood is putting out.

It just is.

Nobody's saying "go back to the '80s", just play fukking watchable basketball, genius.

Liking basketball doesn't entail just liking anything they serve us.

It'd be like saying I have to pretend that Sexy Red is as good as Lauryn Hill because that's just what Hip-Hop is these days.

An inferior product is an inferior product

And the ratings tell the truth.

Literally, nobody does this.

There's tons of 30 for 30s & documentaries about Magic vs. Bird, Lakers vs. Celtics, The Bad Boy Pistons, etc. . .

MJ himself always said that he wouldn't disrespect the OGs by calling himself the GOAT

There is appreciating the old stuff that holds up and there is not being willing to move forward. Better/worse are subjective.

The Godfather and Lauryn had shytty peers. There are quality films and music being made now. If you love movies and music you will check for it and find those things. If you love those old things specifically you will just watch/listen to old stuff, which is fine if thats what you want. But if you waiting for another Godfather or Miseducation you really arent into those artforms themselves like that and you are just asking to be let down.