Why is NBA Media so much worse than other Major Sports

[360Waves]

What was the ratings for Lebron’s Cavs v Spurs in 2007 finals? What was the ratings for Lebron’s Lakers v Heat in 2020 bubble finals?

We can make the numbers favor our argument so not sure where you are going with this. Nobody is even really blaming Lebron for the league decline viewership, we are looking at everything and trying to figure things out.

Look at this loser.

2007 LeBron wasn’t yet a true household name, and they were playing the Spurs who were A.) Known ratings killers due to their “boring team ball” and lack of personalities and B.) A clear favorite (hence the sweep.)

2020 all sports were severely impacted by Covid. Ratings were trash across the board. I can assure you even if Kobe was playing the ratings would’ve been trash.

Convenient of you to pick those 2 because every other finals series he’s played in clears Kobe. Cavs-Warriors averaged 20m viewers a game from 2015-2018 with the peak being G7 in 2016 which drew 32m viewers, the most viewed game period since Jordan. That average is higher than every finals Kobe’s been in, and the peak clears his peak, which was G7 against the Celtics in 2010 (28m.)

His stint in Miami averaged about 17m per game, with the peak being G7 against the Spurs in 2013 where he did 26m. Bron had people tuning in to watch San Antonio, and was doing comparable numbers to Lakers-Celtics G7 without the storied Boston-LA rivalry and significantly smaller media markets. Stay mad.

 

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Look at this loser.

2007 LeBron wasn’t yet a true household name, and they were playing the Spurs who were A.) Known ratings killers due to their “boring team ball” and lack of personalities and B.) A clear favorite (hence the sweep.)

2020 all sports were severely impacted by Covid. Ratings were trash across the board. I can assure you even if Kobe was playing the ratings would’ve been trash.

Convenient of you to pick those 2 because every other finals series he’s played in clears Kobe. Cavs-Warriors averaged 20m viewers a game from 2015-2018 with the peak being G7 in 2016 which drew 32m viewers, the most viewed game period since Jordan. That average is higher than every finals Kobe’s been in, and the peak clears his peak, which was G7 against the Celtics in 2010 (28m.)

His stint in Miami averaged about 17m per game, with the peak being G7 against the Spurs in 2013 where he did 26m. Bron had people tuning in to watch San Antonio, and was doing comparable numbers to Lakers-Celtics G7 without the storied Boston-LA rivalry and significantly smaller media markets. Stay mad.

So you are arguing about Lebron’s legacy with who exactly? Lebron is an all time great. Did you read the part where I said no one is blaming Lebron for the decline in viewership?

What’s with you Lebron sycophants, feel a lil guilty of something?

 

[360Waves]

So you are arguing about Lebron’s legacy with who exactly? Lebron is an all time great. Did you read the part where I said no one is blaming Lebron for the decline in viewership?

What’s with you Lebron sycophants, feel a lil guilty of something?

This is your original post which sparked my reply in the first place.

Once again, I’m not asking for MJ which should be painfully obvious but a player that represents their greatness and competitiveness in a similar fashion. Y’all nikkas don’t really read.

We are discussing the results of a league that elevated from Bird/Magic to MJ/Kobe then deflated ever since.

You flat out stated that ratings are down because there hasn’t been a “guy” since Kobe. An obvious shot at Bron and Steph. I fundamentally break down how idiotic your take is with actual facts and numbers, and it becomes clear Bron and Steph were bigger TV draws than Kobe ever was. Now you’re trying to gaslight me into seeming crazy, like I just started this for no reason. Not today fakkit

Take that L and bow out gracefully please this is embarrassing.

 

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Curry is low key this generation’s transcendent player but Lemedia is the Navy

@360Waves what about this?

 

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This is your original post which sparked my reply in the first place.

You flat out stated that ratings are down because there hasn’t been a “guy” since Kobe. An obvious shot at Bron and Steph. I fundamentally break down how idiotic your take is with actual facts and numbers, and it becomes clear Bron and Steph were bigger TV draws than Kobe ever was. Now you’re trying to gaslight me into seeming crazy, like I just started this for no reason. Not today fakkit

Take that L and bow out gracefully please this is embarrassing.

Knock it off Bronsexual, you crashing out for no reason. I’m purely discussing competitiveness when when stated since MJ/Kobe.

Lebron was never going to take the NBA to new heights cause he doesn’t have a true competitive spirit and his play style is not inspiring anyone. He’s just part of the problem though

 

[360Waves]

@360Waves what about this?

Close but Bron still the bigger draw historically. Curry has been in 2 non Bron Finals and the numbers were significantly lower. Either way they both clear Kobe.

 

[360Waves]

Knock it off Bronsexual, you crashing out for no reason. I’m purely discussing competitiveness when when stated since MJ/Kobe.

Lebron was never going to take the NBA to new heights cause he doesn’t have a true competitive spirit and his play style is not inspiring anyone. He’s just part of the problem though

Still using vibes and narratives in response to actual facts and numbers. If LeBron never took the league to new heights then neither did Kobe, because Bron was a much better TV draw than Bean despite your allegations that he isn’t a “competitor.” I swear arguing with low iq nikkas like you is like pulling teeth.

 

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Close but Bron still the bigger draw historically. Curry has been in 2 non Bron Finals and the numbers were significantly lower. Either way they both clear Kobe.

Curry is actually a bright spot in this era cause he led a dynasty

 

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Still using vibes and narratives in response to actual facts and numbers. If LeBron never took the league to new heights then neither did Kobe, because Bron was a much better TV draw than Bean despite your allegations that he isn’t a “competitor.” I swear arguing with low iq nikkas like you is like pulling teeth.

When did I argue that Kobe was a bigger draw than Lebron? I’m purely talking about competitiveness and players giving a dam about going at each other.

 

[phillycavsfan]

When did I argue that Kobe was a bigger draw than Lebron? I’m purely talking about competitiveness and players giving a dam about going at each other.

Right, because Bron won 4 rings by tapping people on the shoulder and kindly asking for them. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Damnit I'm baited into these threads again. Basketball is for young people to watch, no generation of basketball fan has ever liked what the game has become. And it'll never happen because we like players not so much the teams. So when your favorite player is done it's a wrap.

It's not one thing that could ever make you feel like that about basketball anymore but instead of being like dang this ain't for me people still watch and just be mad

That's not true at all.

Where's all the players from the 50s saying the guys in the '80s sucked?

The reason people who watched the '80s & '90s are mad is because we know what the NBA is supposed to be.

Because Lebron passed Michael Jordan as the GOAT so ‘90s players decided to burn the whole village down.

The Jokes.

Less MVPs, titles, Finals MVPs, scoring titles, and a lower PER, but y'all keep living off aggregate stats .

Like American dollars is the only money that counts

International rights only make up 10% of the NBA's revenue.

The myth of Mike is about ahtleticism, looks, and marketing not competitive spirit. The Finals weren't getting their highest ratings because of competitive spirit. Broads weren't checking for Mike because of competitive spirit. Beyond that, Mike is the GOAT. It's not realistic to expect others to take things beyond him. Either you actually like basketball or you don't. Pining for a nikka that's been gone 25 years (that nikka in WAS was not Mike) makes it clear which category one falls in .

Stop.

People aren't "pining for Mike".

People are pining for an NBA that looks the way the NBA was supposed to look

People don't just talk about Mike

They talk about Magic & Bird

Lakers Vs. Celtics.

The "Bad Boy Pistons" vs. EVERYBODY

THAT's what people are pining for, not just a watered down game where nobody can touch each other & everybody just jacks up 50 3s a game while still having to sit out a quarter of the season due to "load management"

Wilt and Russell and West and Baylor them were at best in 5th or 6th place. You had baseball, football, boxing, horse racing, shyt college football all higher in terms of popularity. Magic and Bird's college final was the highest rated basketball game ever at the time. People have never cared about basketball itself. And yeah racism played a part in that. That's undeniable. Also undeniable that 50 years olds act like the game started in 79. NBA's history is woefully mismanaged and disregarded by the people that should be upholding so of course kids aren't hip. And part of that is due to the worship of MJ. Somehow 6 titles is the standard when you got a dude with twice that. That ain't on 25 year olds.

The game itself has never been popular like that. Certain players make it pop. There is a reason that even with Magic and Bird and Mike in the league they were doing desperate shyt like expanding to 16 teams in the playoffs with only 23 teams in the league.

They weren't doing "desperate" shyt.

There was an expansion of the playoffs in every major sport in America at the same time, dude.

The MLB & NFL expanded their playoffs for the same reasons

Cable TV brought more revenue in the '80s and there was a demand for as much product as possible.

For the record, I stopped reading after this. You are being suffocated by your own delusion if you believe this.

Truth hurts

 

[MyApps]

Right, because Bron won 4 rings by tapping people on the shoulder and kindly asking for them. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

But he did tap other superstar/all star players on their shoulder and kindly asked them to team up for rings.

Almost the same thing, especially since he was the "best player in the NBA" at the time.

 

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Right, because Bron won 4 rings by tapping people on the shoulder and kindly asking for them. Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

Might as well, he teamed up with the stars he was supposed to be dominating in the east with the Heat. Rinse and repeat throughout his era.

Y’all can’t sell me on BRON era ball so don’t try

 

[phillycavsfan]

But he did tap other superstar/all star players on their shoulder and kindly asked them to team up for rings.

Almost the same thing, especially since he was the "best player in the NBA" at the time.

You do know Jordan didn't win shyt until Pippen arrived in Chicago, right? And then they needed another Hall of Famer in Rodman when Baby Shaq and the Magic ruined them on the boards, right?

 

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You do know Jordan didn't win shyt until Pippen arrived in Chicago, right? And then they needed another Hall of Famer in Rodman when Baby Shaq and the Magic ruined them on the boards, right?

What was Pippen doing before he arrived to save MJ?