Why is NBA Media so much worse than other Major Sports

[Soldier]

There is no little basketball culture and tradition in half of the cities that have a NBA franchise. It’s just an professional sport entertainment product for the people there. It’s like going to the restaurant, the movies, the circus, amusement park for them. It’s Another entertainment option among millions of others.

Most People living in New Orleans/Brooklyn/Charlotte/Washington/Atlanta for example wouldn’t miss their nba teams if they relocated or folded.

 

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The myth of Mike is about ahtleticism, looks, and marketing not competitive spirit. The Finals weren't getting their highest ratings because of competitive spirit. Broads weren't checking for Mike because of competitive spirit. Beyond that, Mike is the GOAT. It's not realistic to expect others to take things beyond him. Either you actually like basketball or you don't. Pining for a nikka that's been gone 25 years (that nikka in WAS was not Mike) makes it clear which category one falls in .

I only pay attention to the basketball being played so I can’t speak on the “myth” stuff. I’m pining for players who care about being competitive for the interest of us who watch.

 

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You don’t hear football fans saying that the NFL needs another Tom Brady to thrive again . You don’t hear baseball fans saying the MLB needs another Barry Bonds/Ken Griffey/Babe Ruth/Pete Rose to thrive again. You don’t hear hockey fans saying the NHL needs another Wayne Gretzky to thrive again. You don’t hear soccer fans saying soccer needs another David Beckham/Pelé/Maradona to thrive again.

They moved on because life goes on. They left the past where it belongs, in the past. They be like, thanks for the memories but let’s enjoy the present moment and let’s focus on the future and the young players currently playing right now.

Tom Brady announced his second (and permanent) retirement and most football fans said : good luck in your next life Tom, thanks for the memories. And right after that, they went back to watch and support joe burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick mahomes, josh Allen etc. Because Life goes on. Because at the end of the day, for football fans, football will always be bigger than Tom Brady. Same thing for hockey fans, hockey will always be bigger than Wayne Gretzky. But somehow plenty of people believe Micheal Jordan will always be bigger than Basketball and will always be above the NBA . I mean many supposed basketball « fans » believe the Jordan era was the peak of the NBA and when he retired in 1999, they never came back to the sport. They felt that it was pointless to watch beyond that, in their minds they were like -we saw the best player ever and best era ever of this product. You will never find football fans who believed that the Brady era was the best the NFL had to offer and stopped watching the NFL for good in 2022. Why? Because football fans genuinely love their sport. Ultimately, they love football more than Brady. People just loved the aura, the image and the mythology of MJ more than basketball. And when Jordan said goodbye, they immediately abandoned the nba in droves. The nba was a temporary fad for them. They never genuinely embraced the sport for what it was. They were never emotionally invested in the sport. They were never interested in the NBA. They never cared about the actual sport of basketball, its culture, its history, and its traditions. Their fandom was superficial and very surface level. They didn’t even support their local nba team, they just liked the bulls because everyone liked them and because they were a pop culture juggernaut and one in a lifetime dynasty team in sports. They were the generational products of their context and era and environment( their youth- childhood, teenage, early 20s period was in the 1990s)

Fans of Other sports respect the past but they aren’t pining about it.. they are too busy to watch the present and wonder about the future. Fans of other sports are much more loyal and diehard to their sport than basketball fans who are more casual , trendy, capricious and finicky. Basketball « fans » root for individual players, not for teams. Other Fans of sports root for teams over individuals. Also they love the entire history of their favorite sports, not certain eras or particular players. They love everything about their teams, their sports, their history, their traditions , their rules, the sports as they are, they love the good and the bad things of their favorite sports for better and for worse. A lot of TMZ/NBA modern fans are ignorant, immature, and selfish cherry-picking fans. They pick and choose aspects of fandom and sport appreciation.

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Once again, I’m not asking for MJ which should be painfully obvious but a player that represents their greatness and competitiveness in a similar fashion. Y’all nikkas don’t really read.

We are discussing the results of a league that elevated from Bird/Magic to MJ/Kobe then deflated ever since.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

The myth of Mike is about ahtleticism, looks, and marketing not competitive spirit. The Finals weren't getting their highest ratings because of competitive spirit. Broads weren't checking for Mike because of competitive spirit. Beyond that, Mike is the GOAT. It's not realistic to expect others to take things beyond him. Either you actually like basketball or you don't. Pining for a nikka that's been gone 25 years (that nikka in WAS was not Mike) makes it clear which category one falls in .

Competition mattered. Jordan was marketed heavy but to deny is competitive spirit is insane. All these new nikkas care about is branding. They have no desire to be the best ever, Just to get millions

 

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The nba is the sports version of a Ponzi scheme. As long as new customers(kids and teens) always come in, the older ones can leave . But when new fans become
Older themselves and their own favorite players retire, they retire too. And the next cycle of this continues

The NBA/ nba media needs to change their strategy and accept that they can’t always rely on transcendent and exceptional players forever. They were lucky with magic-bird-mike-kobe-shaq-bron-curry coming in succession. They cant always expect those kind of legendary players to come out every season. They are Taking this situation for granted.

It’s always safer and smarter to rely on team interest, not player interest. Why? Because The Players come and go, the teams always remain, that’s all. Relying on players is a volatile and risky business, relying on teams is a smart and stable business. People should be invested in their teams again. Building loyalty and attachent to the local teams over players. Players are important because they are the product but the teams themselves and the sport of basketball itself should be valued. Traditionally, it’s the attachement to the Teams and love of the sport that sustain and maintain the viability and purpose of sports leagues

Becoming a player’s league is what took the NBA to the next level business wise. The stars just need to give a dam about competing at the highest level for the fans like they used to. The business model of the NBA and NFL are different.

 

[MyApps]

Once again, I’m not asking for MJ which should be painfully obvious but a player that represents their greatness and competitiveness in a similar fashion. Y’all nikkas don’t really read.

We are discussing the results of a league that elevated from Bird/Magic to MJ/Kobe then deflated ever since.

If Curry gets one more, there will be a monumental shift. The GOAT heir was always here, hidden in plain sight...

 

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If Curry gets one more, there will be a monumental shift. The GOAT heir was always here, hidden in plain sight...

Curry is low key this generation’s transcendent player but Lemedia is the Navy

 

[360Waves]

Once again, I’m not asking for MJ which should be painfully obvious but a player that represents their greatness and competitiveness in a similar fashion. Y’all nikkas don’t really read.

We are discussing the results of a league that elevated from Bird/Magic to MJ/Kobe then deflated ever since.

This would make sense except that LeBron James and Steph Curry are both bigger TV ratings draws than Kobe ever was. It takes about 5 minutes of google to figure this out. The peak of NBA ratings post Jordan was the Heatles and Cavs-Warriors era.

People are on here trying to have genuine discussions about how to fix the media problem with this league and you fakkits still cannot help yourselves tryna insert Kobe in places he doesn’t belong and shyt on LeBron when Bron is one of the only reasons the NBA didn’t go 6 feet under in the 2010s. At this point yall nikkas gotta be gay with the obsession.

 

[MyApps]

This would make sense except that LeBron James and Steph Curry are both bigger TV ratings draws than Kobe ever was. It takes about 5 minutes of google to figure this out. The peak of NBA ratings post Jordan was the Heatles and Cavs-Warriors era.

People are on here trying to have genuine discussions about how to fix the media problem with this league and you fakkits still cannot help yourselves tryna insert Kobe in places he doesn’t belong and shyt on LeBron when Bron is one of the only reasons the NBA didn’t go 6 feet under in the 2010s. At this point yall nikkas gotta be gay with the obsession.

The reason why you think Kobe doesn't deserve to be in this conversation is PRECISELY why this thread was made in the first place.

Think about that.

 

[360Waves]

The reason why you think Kobe doesn't deserve to be in this conversation is PRECISELY why this thread was made in the first place.

Think about that.

I literally just stated that league ratings post Jordan were at their highest during the Heatles/Cavs-Warriors period. Again, this is easily findable information. Bron and Steph were bigger draws than Kobe ever was. And at their peaks drew more eyeballs to the league even for games they weren’t involved in. But you continue to parrot the (false) narrative that ratings are dying because the NBA hasn’t found a “killer instinct competitor” since the MJ/Kobe pipeline.

In reality, Kobe was a stopgap that semi kept the league afloat until actual transcendent talents like Bron and Steph came into their primes and the numbers support that. The reason ratings are down now are due to many things, but one of them is the fact that Bron/Steph championship windows are likely closed and none of the new-age guys have that magnetism yet. It has little to do with Kobe at all.

You Kobe stans are Trump supporter levels of idiotic and delusional. Never a citable fact in sight. Just vibes, disinformation and narratives.

 

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This would make sense except that LeBron James and Steph Curry are both bigger TV ratings draws than Kobe ever was. It takes about 5 minutes of google to figure this out. The peak of NBA ratings post Jordan was the Heatles and Cavs-Warriors era.

People are on here trying to have genuine discussions about how to fix the media problem with this league and you fakkits still cannot help yourselves tryna insert Kobe in places he doesn’t belong and shyt on LeBron when Bron is one of the only reasons the NBA didn’t go 6 feet under in the 2010s. At this point yall nikkas gotta be gay with the obsession.

Was it really Lebron or was it the super teams that he formed that was a polarizing drawRivalries and dynasties are a draw because of the competitive nature of those situations so it all leads back to the stars giving a dam about going at each other.

 

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The reason why you think Kobe doesn't deserve to be in this conversation is PRECISELY why this thread was made in the first place.

Think about that.

Kobe’s will to compete and mindset threatens the mediocrity and propaganda that they have been conditioned to accept so any mention of him gets them triggered.

 

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I literally just stated that league ratings post Jordan were at their highest during the Heatles/Cavs-Warriors period. Again, this is easily findable information. Bron and Steph were bigger draws than Kobe ever was. And at their peaks drew more eyeballs to the league even for games they weren’t involved in. But you continue to parrot the (false) narrative that ratings are dying because the NBA hasn’t found a “killer instinct competitor” since the MJ/Kobe pipeline.

In reality, Kobe was a stopgap that semi kept the league afloat until actual transcendent talents like Bron and Steph came into their primes and the numbers support that. The reason ratings are down now are due to many things, but one of them is the fact that Bron/Steph championship windows are likely closed and none of the new-age guys have that magnetism yet. It has little to do with Kobe at all.

You Kobe stans are Trump supporter levels of idiotic and delusional. Never a citable fact in sight. Just vibes, disinformation and narratives.

Doth protest too much

 

[360Waves]

Was it really Lebron or was it the super teams that he formed that was a polarizing drawRivalries and dynasties are a draw because of the competitive nature of those situations so it all leads back to the stars giving a dam about going at each other.

LeBron in 2010, pre Miami played the Celtics in the second round of the playoffs and the game 6 was, at the time, the second most watched basketball game (college or pro) in ESPNs history (8.9m).

The only game to do better that that point was G6 of Lakers-Nuggets in 2009 with 9.8m. But there are some caveats to consider:
* Lakers-Nuggets was a WCF series. Cavs-Celtics only ECSF.
* Kobe was in his prime, and coming off an MVP year and an NBA Finals trip which he lost. 2009 was his shot at redemption and beating the Nuggets was paramount to getting to the Finals.
* LA is a significantly bigger media market than Cleveland.

And even with all of those factors they only did 1m better. If LeBron went into a deep ECF series that year the numbers would’ve been astronomical.

At this point in LeBrons career that star power was evident and he was going to be drawing eyeballs to the screen regardless of if he ever formed a superteam. The super team factor was just an added bonus. Once Miami and Cleveland round 2 came around he had clearly leapfrogged Kobe in the ability to draw eyeballs even at Kobe’s peak.

Again, these things are easily researchable but you nikkas love to operate on vibes and treat it like its fact. Your feelings tell you Kobe is more of a killer than Bron so of course he must’ve drew better ratings, except one quick google search shows he didn’t. This type of idiocy is exactly how Trump continues to end up in office.

 

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What was the ratings for Lebron’s Cavs v Spurs in 2007 finals? What was the ratings for Lebron’s Lakers v Heat in 2020 bubble finals?

We can make the numbers favor our argument so not sure where you are going with this. Nobody is even really blaming Lebron for the league decline viewership, we are looking at everything and trying to figure things out.

Lebron’s mistake was molding himself in the vein of MJ when in reality he wasn’t hyper competitive like that